MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: xxx_mojo_xxx on August 11, 2009, 11:17:05 pm
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Where can I get a set of decent road legal slick tyres... web links plz?
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Here you go :happy2:
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s0p0
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But isn't the law about to change about which tyres are road legal?
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Hurdy, thanks! Soo many to choose from, any you can recommend?
RR - Law, change, when? So, can't I use track day tyres on the road?
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RR - Law, change, when? So, can't I use track day tyres on the road?
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Linky : - Trackday Tyres to be Outlawed.... (http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/236977/trackday_tyres_to_be_outlawed.html) :sad1:
Okay until 2012 though it seems :happy2:
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Law is allegedly going to change in around 3 years. The tyres will still be legal, just not on a road :grin:
I've just bought some TOYO R888's, but Yokohama A048's are supposed to be the bees knees too.
If you want ultimate grip over waer then the reports are that the TOYO's have the edge. If you go for TOYO's go for the medium rated ones (GG).
The A048's will last longer, but I've heard that they are even twitchier in the wet than the TOYO's due to the slightly harder compound.
JonnyC is probably the best man to get an opinion on these, but he chose TOYO's too :wink:
Edit:- Just beat me to the 3yr thing Robin :grin:
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Mojo, what size alloys do you have?
What car are you putting them on?
I've ordered 225/45/17's to go with some 17" Pro race's.
The 17" TOYO tyres have 7mm wider contact patches than the 18" tyres (225/40/18), so should have more grip too. :happy2:
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Here are some specs for you for the R888's.
http://www.toyo.co.uk/productdetail.php?identity=products&product_id=18
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Got 18s - Monza 2
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Got 18s - Monza 2
Your only option with that alloy would be the 225/40/18 tyre if you went with TOYO. The others all need wider alloys and yours are 7.5" wide.
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Have a look at Hankook's track day tyres they get really good reviews, the Z211s and Z212s are somewhere in between an R888 and a road tyre. Yoko Parada Spec 2s likewise. All are a bit snappy on the road in the wet though, so be careful.
Be prepared to race through R888s, heavy car + not being smooth will see them gone in no time. Amazing grip though :notworthy:
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If you can put up with them in the wet i would pick the Yoko A048's any day... there a bit more expensive, but the grip on them is awesome compared to the toyos.
you just have to be "sensible" in the wet tho :happy2:
i think these will be going on for my next Nurburgring trip :smiley:
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Where can I get a set of decent road legal slick tyres... web links plz?
R888 is the way to go.. Its not an extreme tyre and can be used on the road everyday, I used mine in the snow lol! Not really advised though.. :grin:
A048's are good too.. I have had at one point a set of slicks which I had some cuts put in, just so they 'looked' legal and they were amazing, but again.. Not advised!
Just to let you know, I have a set of part worn R888 in 235/40/18 (which is fine for your wheels) for sale at £200.. They dont really have much life left in them but its a very cheap way of checking if you like them or not?
Let me know..
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Where can I get a set of decent road legal slick tyres... web links plz?
I have had at one point a set of slicks which I had some cuts put in, just so they 'looked' legal and they were amazing, but again.. Not advised!
Dunlop wets for the ultimate grip...
The will only last 1 short spirited drive tho if driven properly :grin:
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Where can I get a set of decent road legal slick tyres... web links plz?
I have had at one point a set of slicks which I had some cuts put in, just so they 'looked' legal and they were amazing, but again.. Not advised!
Dunlop wets for the ultimate grip...
The will only last 1 short spirited drive tho if driven properly :grin:
For the wet yeah.. Why would you want to run wets in dry conditions? F all grip compared to a dry tyre.. :scared:
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i thought toyo were bringing out another semi slick tyre rated just below the R888s that were better in the wet and a little closer to road spec.
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Can the Toyos be used for normail day-to-day driving? Being a tart I like the tread pattern. Will they last a while - or do they just wear out after a couple of hundred miles?
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friend with an evo has r888s his lasted 7500 miles with a few track days thrown in, but even he says its a no no in the wet. he put me off getting them myself.
im sure driven normally in the wet they will bve fine until you hit standing ater then you are fooked.
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Over the years I've run Yoko's, Toyo's and Dunlop's on my Golf's including slick's.
My advice is these tyres should only be used for track only unless you can afford to use and change them on a regular basis. They will NOT offer good traction in extremely wet conditions although if you get some heat into them they will grip well in damp conditions.
The Toyo's are the softest and will degrade heavily on the shoulders and don't have such a hard sidewall. They grip well when hot but can go off quikly on a hot trackday likewise the A0048 Yoko's.
The better of these are Dunlop D01j's. I've been using these for the last 4 yrs and they have a much better wear rate. I managed to get a load of ex VW Cup 235x40x 18's tyres and ran them on my 350BHP MKIV. I am now running my re mapped ED30 on KW Clubsports. I've yet to run the car on the KW's on track with these tyres but I did in July at Combe on the RS day on stock suspension....worked very well although with the KW's it will be in another league I suspect. They really help with traction that a diff would otherwise compensate on road rubber. Ultimately you would run a diff though if money no object.
I'll let you know if any slightly used cup tyres become available.
Ian
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what about other options though. not got any experience in track rubber and what is best only what i have read
but there are
kumho
hankook
yokohoma
goodyear
toyo dunlop
all produce road legal track tyres
absolutley no ideas what sort of compound, or how hard wearing or grippy they are. anybody care to take over there :stupid:
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Captain Sensible here! Best to take Msportsman's advice and take a trolley jack and a spare set of wheels already fitted with track rubber - Easy to carry if you put the back seats down.
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at the moment im happy on vredesteins at the. loadsa grip, but i eventually plan on entering time trials in mine and ill be needing sticky rubber thats why im interested. fine.
got a large shopping llist before hand though
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Another question... my car currently has 225/40/18. Could I put on 235/40/18 on the same rims without problems?
Anyone got photos of 235s on would be greatly appreciated
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You're just p***ing money up the wall running them on the road.
Those Dunlops Ian mentioned are superb, I'd forgotten about them - friend of mine runs them on his LCR track car and over the past 5-6 years of ownership they're the best he's found. I think they suit a heavier car.
Again, this is all down to personal preference in terms of feel/grip and how you drive. Start sawing at the wheel and driving like you're in a Bond film, you've got a very expensive day on your hands no matter what you've bought.
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Another question... my car currently has 225/40/18. Could I put on 235/40/18 on the same rims without problems?
Anyone got photos of 235s on would be greatly appreciated
Yes you can use those tyres on your present rims with issues. Only thing to change will be your overall gearing as the rolling circumference of the 235s is slightly greater than the 225s.
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What do you mean the gearing will change?
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Over the years I've run Yoko's, Toyo's and Dunlop's on my Golf's including slick's.
My advice is these tyres should only be used for track only unless you can afford to use and change them on a regular basis. They will NOT offer good traction in extremely wet conditions although if you get some heat into them they will grip well in damp conditions.
The Toyo's are the softest and will degrade heavily on the shoulders and don't have such a hard sidewall. They grip well when hot but can go off quikly on a hot trackday likewise the A0048 Yoko's.
The better of these are Dunlop D01j's. I've been using these for the last 4 yrs and they have a much better wear rate. I managed to get a load of ex VW Cup 235x40x 18's tyres and ran them on my 350BHP MKIV. I am now running my re mapped ED30 on KW Clubsports. I've yet to run the car on the KW's on track with these tyres but I did in July at Combe on the RS day on stock suspension....worked very well although with the KW's it will be in another league I suspect. They really help with traction that a diff would otherwise compensate on road rubber. Ultimately you would run a diff though if money no object.
I'll let you know if any slightly used cup tyres become available.
Ian
The D01Js used to be wicked when we used to run them in VW cup...
Shame they have stopped making them now tho :confused:
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Are the Dunlop DZ02G's as good?
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What do you mean the gearing will change?
With the 235s the mph/1000rpm will be slightly increased vs the 225s.
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What do you mean the gearing will change?
With the 235s the mph/1000rpm will be slightly increased vs the 225s.
you've got that mixed up there mate.
circumference will not change at all. the aspect ratio is still 40. 225 or 235 merely states the width of the tyre.
17 inch tyres use the 45mm aspect ratio, 18" use 40mm, and 19" use 35mm irrelevent of width
Meaning a 17 inch tyre with 225/45R17tyre will have exactly the same circummference and MPH/1000 as a 245/35R19 tyre.
HTH
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Can I go beyond 235 on my 18inch Monzas II, or is that the limit?
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And, does having the wider tyres impact road handling in an adverse way?
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A 235 on a 7.5j would be a bit naughty, you'll be fine on an 8. Although I'd be tempted to stick with a 225, just to reduce the risk of rubbing.
Wider track should help improve roll and the effects of weight transfer, bigger tyre footprint helps grip.