MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: lowlife on August 12, 2009, 10:57:19 am

Title: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: lowlife on August 12, 2009, 10:57:19 am
On about developing a 60% less throw item at the mo at PSI tuning, just wondered if many of you folks might be interested?

Pete
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: SteveS on August 12, 2009, 11:41:07 am
what would the cost of one be?
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: lowlife on August 12, 2009, 12:45:09 pm
http://www.psituning.com/shop/section.php/121/1/transmission_

done!
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: wigit on August 12, 2009, 01:05:15 pm
looks like that one will have same issue on later cars we've had with VWR and Forge
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: lowlife on August 12, 2009, 01:21:25 pm
what issues mate?
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: joesgti on August 12, 2009, 02:10:51 pm
ive had my forge one for a few months, it grinded on the top row of gears, but then forge sent me the side to side throw arm FOC and works perfect now!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: wigit on August 13, 2009, 11:37:57 am
issue on later cars is shape here, i didn't take pics when swapped mine back over and don't want to dismantle the intake, i'd had no issues with me driving it, i am mising it as they are great product

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fwigit71%2Ftfotfn%2Fquickshifter1.jpg&hash=aee706a04bf4fc088e679ecab375b6bcef9c9dff)
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: SteveS on August 14, 2009, 10:58:29 am
confused.com  :confused:
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: wigit on August 21, 2009, 12:07:25 pm
a couple of pics from rocco which has same issue as some Ed30s and our Pirelli

standard

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fwigit71%2Fforums%2FDSC01285.jpg&hash=e8c12ae7daeb60f0d4cc3ebdd92f5fc4bfd3e56e)

standard and short shift

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fwigit71%2Fforums%2FDSC01286.jpg&hash=77c2ec419ec7cc461bd5e257091762fb7a69fc82)

 :happy2:

Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: SteveS on August 21, 2009, 01:00:39 pm
im missing it... so the bit that sticks out hits that other bit?  :scared:
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: wigit on August 21, 2009, 02:01:00 pm
the shape of the bit with M0.. is a different profile to the equivalent bit on the short shifter, the profile of the short shifter is what have been casuing issues, vwr are fabricating new onesto overcome this issue
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: SteveS on August 21, 2009, 02:41:12 pm
hum this is something i want to look at getting..
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: VC on August 21, 2009, 02:51:32 pm
i had the forge one on my mk4 and now my mk5, not had any issues...that's not to say they don't clearly exist though
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: SteveS on August 21, 2009, 03:18:43 pm
do you have the adjustable one?
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: VC on August 21, 2009, 03:27:02 pm
I don't have the side to side section, didn't feel the need for it. It's currently set at about 60% less throw and I love it

brilliant mod
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: SteveS on August 21, 2009, 06:53:32 pm
whats this side to side action thing?
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: VC on August 21, 2009, 07:49:17 pm
it reduces the distance traveled from side to side when you change gear. makes eveything feel tighter and closer on gear change. the short shift alone adjusts the front to back distance  :happy2:
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 21, 2009, 08:28:44 pm


I have the adjustable front back forge shifter on my 57 leon and am having issues with it.  Itgrinds 3rd and feels like it needs to go further to the right to get it into 5th...
Also when in 1st or 2nd, even thoughits in gear the stick springs back to the center!  :confused:  :'(
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: VC on August 21, 2009, 08:31:51 pm
sounds loose dude
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 21, 2009, 08:33:21 pm
sounds loose dude

Bugger, any idea where?  :confused:
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: VC on August 21, 2009, 08:34:42 pm
the bolt you tighten to adjust the % throw
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 21, 2009, 08:36:42 pm
the bolt you tighten to adjust the % throw

Sounds like Dbilas off battery out.  Cant figure out why the shifter would spring back to the middle makes me really cautious changing 2nd to third and slow 4th to 5th.

It does it when in 5th and 6th too :'(
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: VC on August 21, 2009, 08:39:24 pm
my mates mk4 has gone from 75% back to stirring porridge again, it happens

might not be the cause, but sounds likely to me  :happy2:
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: wigit on August 21, 2009, 08:39:33 pm
white gti had issues with forge on his car
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 21, 2009, 08:41:06 pm
Are you farmiliar with the linkage?  I have the installation Pdf if some one knows or can explain where the problem is?
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Janner_Sy on August 21, 2009, 08:52:20 pm
piece of p*ss mike. take you intake out, battery can stay where it is, no need to move it. you'll be able to access the adjustment nut from the top,

 if not take the linkages off. (make sure your in neutral, plus put a nail in the linkage below your gear stick for when it is tighten it up) the left hand linkage has a circular circlip, slide that off and it'll pop up, the right hand linkage is a pain in the ass, i got mine off by sliding needle nose pliers behind and levering it out.

should be easy for a fitter like yourself, shouldnt be taking hints off a sparky mate, lol :wink: :P

i can show you on PDF if need be, or if it can wait until chatham im there on from 11th and ill sort it for you.
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: WhiteGTI on August 21, 2009, 08:53:17 pm
white gti had issues with forge on his car

LOL, I still am to this day! Been mailed a potential solution today, and hopefully will be able to report back on Sunday evening whether it has actually worked!!

Yeah the bolt that adjusts the throw could be loose, or even the main bolt that holds the whole shifter assembly down to the gearbox. That sounds more likely to me....

The big bolt, you can't miss it, its the one in the centre of both shifter arms, try to see if it is all tight!
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Janner_Sy on August 21, 2009, 08:55:20 pm
cant see it being the centre bolt. that shaft has splines on it,
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 21, 2009, 08:57:59 pm
Thanks guys, a job for the morning  :happy2:

piece of p*ss mike. take you intake out, battery can stay where it is, no need to move it. you'll be able to access the adjustment nut from the top,

 if not take the linkages off. (make sure your in neutral, plus put a nail in the linkage below your gear stick for when it is tighten it up) the left hand linkage has a circular circlip, slide that off and it'll pop up, the right hand linkage is a pain in the ass, i got mine off by sliding needle nose pliers behind and levering it out.

should be easy for a fitter like yourself at home with no tools  :sad:, shouldnt be taking hints off a sparky mate, lol :wink: :P

i can show you on PDF if need be, or if it can wait until chatham im there on from 11th and ill sort it for you.

Hahaha, true!  

Ill have a look in the mornin matey and let you know how i get on.  Had a quick go at pulling the gaiter up the other day to access the holes that lock the shifter in place but didnt want to break anything, will have another bash in day light
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Janner_Sy on August 21, 2009, 09:04:34 pm
pull the gaiter form the bottom side first
Title: Re: Short shift for MK5 non DSG
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 21, 2009, 09:06:48 pm
pull the gaiter form the bottom side first

Will have a look soon going to pick the missus up from work ina bit.  Said in the Forge Pdf (golf mk5 mind) about a clip under the leather. couldnt feel it em n the leon.  Will try again from the bottom.