MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: gazbutS3 on August 14, 2009, 02:40:20 pm
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Picked up a new APR HPFP today, think I said I'd have 1 before the end of the month in the "too fast post", should have said the end of the week :laugh:.
After a bit of research I went for the APR pump, there are other fuel pump options, you pay your money and make your choice as far as I'm concerned :smiley:
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I'm going to fit the pump tomorrow and will post some pics as I do it, would have done it today but I can't get a new follower untill the morning which I'm going to change while the pumps off.
Then it will be stage 2+ next week :happy2: :smiley: :smiley:
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can you fit these yourself? how easy/hard?
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I watched Jim do the 1 on my ED30, hes just talked me through it again, and I've read the destructions, looks simples :laugh:
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nice one Gaz :congrats:
just dont put your fingers over the ends .... :stupid:
be interesting to see what your followers like too.
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fingers over the ends?
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at the pressures involved it 'could' push fuel into your bloodstream apparently through your skin :signLOL:
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Always good to see you Gaz
Good luck , but are you sure you have read the instructions?
I didn`t think men did things like that...... :sad1: sorry , I will leave now
Sarah
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at the pressures involved it 'could' push fuel into your bloodstream apparently through your skin :signLOL:
think they may have happened and some point in the past, would explain a few things :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Always good to see you Gaz
Good luck , but are you sure you have read the instructions?
I didn`t think men did things like that...... :sad1: sorry , I will leave now
Sarah
good to see you lot as well, even if you all did laugh at me in my noddy car :booty:
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looks a smart bit of kit.. i keep telling myself i dont need one if these and pictures and talk of stage 2+ really isnt helping :signLOL:
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Should be mental as Benny lenny once you get the 2+ on. :stupid: :happy2:
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Should be mental as Benny lenny once you get the 2+ on. :stupid: :happy2:
not sure it will be that daft :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
sorry benny, only messin :smiley:
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cant wait for pics, might do this mod myself then go stage 2+ around chrimbo. :smiley:
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will make sure I take pics, I've meant to do it in the past when I've been doin jobs but i get that keen and want to get on with it I forget untill I've finished :laugh:
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:happy2:
funnily enough I was in there yesterday and found myself staring at the 3 inch APR exhaust for more than a moment..... :ashamed:
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:happy2:
funnily enough I was in there yesterday and found myself staring at the 3 inch APR exhaust for more than a moment..... :ashamed:
Did they have a crow bar handy for your wallet? :signLOL: :signLOL:
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Should give you that extra power you crave Gaz :driver: :signLOL:
Anything after stage 2+?
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nathan can you guess whats coming ?
:angry015:
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Should give you that extra power you crave Gaz :driver: :signLOL:
Anything after stage 2+?
probably a clutch :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Should give you that extra power you crave Gaz :driver: :signLOL:
Anything after stage 2+?
probably a clutch :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:signLOL:
You may be right! :driver:
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I'm sure of it, :laugh:
sayin that the 08 on S3's had a sachs clutch as std instead of the LUK item that was fitted earlier, so I'm hopin it maybe a bit stronger, I do try to be nice to the clutch, not to many hard starts and I try not to load it to much in the higher gears :happy2:
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Naaaaaaa,
I just know you'll not be able to resist giving it some stick now you have the power :wink:
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I'm a reformed character since the bump, steady all the time :smiley:
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I'm a reformed character since the bump, steady all the time :smiley:
^^^
I thought that would have been a wink and not a smile :rolleye:
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ok fitted the pump yesterday, quite an easy job, took about an hour, but I was in no rush
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first you need to remove the engine cover, we all no what a pain in the @rse that can be, just give it a sharp tug :smiley:
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then you'll see the pump on the righthand end of the engine
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make sure you release the fuel pressure from the schrader valve
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continued :smiley:
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disconnect the inlet and out let underneath, then disconnect the 2 electrical plugs and the remove the 3 bolts holding the pump to the engine and remove the pump
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I got a replacement cam follower bucket as I thought I'd change it while it was in bits but as you can see from the pictures there was no signs of wear at all, the old 1 is on the left this is 14000miles old
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fitting is the reverse of removal, make sure you put a touch of moly grease on the cam side of the follower to help bedding in
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New pump fitted, The pump comes with full instructions and is fairly straightforward, thanx for looking
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well done on the fitting :happy2:
it looks exactly the same apart from the APR sticker! looking forward to reading the results :smiley:
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externally it is the same as stock :smiley:, won't get the true benefits untill the stg 2+ software is fitted this week :happy2:
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Are you feeling the benefits now Gaz? I ran my pump with Stage 1 software and found it much improved.
Couple of observations -
I know it's not in any of the supplied instructions but the factory repair manual does specifically state to have Cyl 1 at TDC before fitting a pump.
Make sure not to open the drivers door with the fuel pipes removed, you'll get wet.
Be careful if the door has been opened or the car run in the previous couple of hours as the system will be charged with pressure.
Not sure about the moly grease, is that in the APR instructions?? The follower is in the main engine oil path so my understanding is any lube on install should be engine oil only so as not to contaminate the engine oil. One of the problems with the dodgy batches of internals was fuel passing through the shaft seal and making its way back to the sump.
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is there any difference now mate ? does it feel any better ?
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Are you feeling the benefits now Gaz? I ran my pump with Stage 1 software and found it much improved.
Couple of observations -
I know it's not in any of the supplied instructions but the factory repair manual does specifically state to have Cyl 1 at TDC before fitting a pump.
Make sure not to open the drivers door with the fuel pipes removed, you'll get wet.
Be careful if the door has been opened or the car run in the previous couple of hours as the system will be charged with pressure.
Not sure about the moly grease, is that in the APR instructions?? The follower is in the main engine oil path so my understanding is any lube on install should be engine oil only so as not to contaminate the engine oil. One of the problems with the dodgy batches of internals was fuel passing through the shaft seal and making its way back to the sump.
Yes, the moly grease tip is in the APR instructions, its only a very small amount, a smear at the most
""if you are using a new cam follower, be sure to use some moly grease on the camshaft side of the follower for intial break in", copied from the APR destructions :smiley:
I did put a note about depressurising the system :happy2:, you are supposed to disconnect the battery
It definately does feel more responsive running it with the stg 1 map, thought it was the placebo effect at first but the more miles I did the better it got, maybe adjusting itself a bit
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is there any difference now mate ? does it feel any better ?
Of course it does after dropping so many notes for it... :laugh:
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Glad it all went well mate, its gonna be awesome with stage 2+ :drool:
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nice Gaz :congrats:
next thing youll be doing a proper product review :pomppomp: