MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: phal on July 10, 2013, 10:52:05 pm
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This might be a bit of a long winded couple of questions but bear with me :popcornsoda:
Spent weeks trying to decide, petrol or diesel. I ended up with a mk5 pd170 and although im happy with it part of me wishes id have gone for the more powerful option of an ed30 etc
I've been doing some number crunching and going off what iv read on real life mpg 28mpg and 43mpg on both mine and an ed30 both running off v power it works out £1300 difference over a year for me (15,000 miles), insurance not much difference at all and tax is only about £65 - when you break it down for fuel its around 110 quid a month difference, easilly doable... about what i save from quitting smoking earlier this year!
Seems that vw shows do bad things to you! seeing all those shiney r32s/gtis/ed30s at inters on the weekend made me really question my decison...
Obviously at the end of the day i'm the only one that can make the decision and either way both would get remapped/dpf deleted but
1, Do you think its worth paying the premium on an ed30 over the tdi
2, ed30 owners, how do you find mpg for every day driving, giving it a blast and also on the motorway
3, tdi owners, do you think a map and dpf delete wound make much of a difference for me to think 'yee-haa, right decision on the derv' :driver:
thanks for reading and all comments appreciated
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if you can afford it then do it
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Buy an Eddy and stop dithering!
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Edition 30. No brainier.
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I went from a remapped PD140 to a remapped ED30, I would do it again even if I did your mileage.
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The tone of your post implies that you've made your decision already.
Make sure you post some photos after you've picked it up. :happy2:
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Go for the Eddy.
RE MPG: I find with my Pirelli (pretty much same engine) I can easily get mid 30's+ on a half decent motorway run.
On a blast, low to mid 20's. Depends on the road an how hard I'm pushing. Bear in mind that on a blast on country lanes the GTI will take most corners effortlessly at 60mph so no need to keep accelerating hard so the mpg stays up.
Town/City is the killer. My other half has used my car to drive to work (across Birmingham center) and returned it with an average of 17mpg once! Stop-start with no heavy-footed-ness.
BTW; I used to do 80 miles per day as a commute. Never once thought of buying the devils juice variety. :evilgrin:
TDI = :smiley:
Eddy = :driver: :jumpmove:
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Go for the Eddy.
TDI = :smiley:
Eddy = :driver: :jumpmove:
this made me laugh a lot aha!The tone of your post implies that you've made your decision already.
Make sure you post some photos after you've picked it up. :happy2:
Sounds like i have tbh, just wanted to know wether it is worth paying the premium over the derv - i just dont want to turn round in 6 months and wonder why i threw away good mpg
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- i just dont want to turn round in 6 months and wonder why i threw away good mpg
This won't happen.
Think of it as akin to dumping your homely, slightly chubby girlfriend and shacking up with some fit bouncing flouncing tramp type. She'll be high maintenance but you won't care due to the extreme pleasure obtained when you're giving her the beans.
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Iv got a stage 1 ed 30 and sitting at 65 to work and using cruise averaging 40 mph over 50 miles there and back and using accelerator easy when building up speed ect, But the power over comes and usually bored on day 2 and floor it and get low 20 mpg lol but if ur sensible it's a really economical car IMHO a lot better on fuel than my old Clio 197.
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Just to bait... my GTI mpg-2 reading is on 35.3 average for the past 1200 miles. :evilgrin: Changes your delta for the better.....
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looks like mine could be up for sale in the next few days then :happy2:
atleast i'd be keeping up the golf tradition - so far owned a mk3, 2 mk4s and my current mk5 :driver:
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Just to bait... my GTI mpg-2 reading is on 35.3 average for the past 1200 miles. :evilgrin: Changes your delta for the better.....
Just wrong. You do know what the pedal on the right is for? It goes all the way to the floor you know? :P
looks like mine could be up for sale in the next few days then :happy2:
atleast i'd be keeping up the golf tradition - so far owned a mk3, 2 mk4s and my current mk5 :driver:
That makes me feel a little better about my car history:
2x Mk2's, 1x MK3 & 2x MK5's and nothing else :happy2:
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The ultimate question.
Some prefer diesel - others petrol. I like the torque of a diesel, mpg is good. And my jetta was like £5750. I'd be tempted by a 2.0t jetta. But couldn't find one when I needed one
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IMHO when on a long motorway commute (cruising) you wont notice what engine is under the bonnet except when you look at your MPG display. :happy2:
If your going to get the benefit of the Ed30 then its worthwhile (bear in mind it will lose a lot of value doing 15k miles a year). Are you going to be using the power regularly on your commute?? if so your wallet will suffer, if not, is it worth having?
There is always the middle ground of a K03 GTI - slightly better MPG than the ed30, easier to find one for sale, and can be colour coded for a few hundered £'s.
If you keep the diesel the DPF delete is a must on the PD170.
I've had loads of turbo petrols and diesels and tbh a diesel is easier to drive with the low down torque so is more suitable for long drives.
If you have an ed30 for high miles then it will no doubt get covered in stone chips, scratches etc - It was the colour and paintwork that drew you to these in the first place??
You would be forever worrying about parking it somewhere too :sad1:
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Ed30..No question :wink:
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If you wanna save money go for the diesel. If you want performance then go for the ed30
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TBF I think the Ed.30 is waste if you don't at least Stage 1 it... I'd simply grab a standard GTI as the performance isn't that much different for the extra cash; it's when you tune them that the K04 really stretches it's legs and out performs the K03...
By that time MPG is a by product :laugh: even though you can get late 30's from these cars, in reality you'd be mid 20's having fun, and teens when your REALLY having fun. :innocent:
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Use to own a mk4 anni pd, average 39.89mpg over 13k that i recorded it, owned it for 5.5 years. Had the ED30 DSG for 18mths, averaged 25.86mpg over 10,079miles spending £2,528 on fuel av £138 p/m.
My driving has mainly be town driving, it can quite easily read 33-35mpg on a run, with steady driving. My return trip to Inters at the weekend, including 5 trips up the strip averaged 26mpg and 313 to the tank, before i nearly ran out 10 miles from home :signLOL:
I do feel that the ko3 in the GTI is easier on fuel as i also own an 07 Leon fr 2.0t and i can easily get 36-38mpg on a run, chooice is yours.
You only live once, life is too short :happy2:
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MPG is over rated. Buy a car and enjoy it. An eddy won't cost the earth to run.
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Thanks for all your responses/advice, its been really helpful!
work is less than a mile from me so thats not really an issue, i do a lot of photography which is where about 70% of my mileage is and what i also failed to mention is that the longer runs tend to be with friends so the fuel is normally split 2/3 ways
most of that is either blasting through the peak district or cruising 120 mile down the motorway to snowdonia or the lakes etc, which is why i've always gone for the quicker diesels, good on the motorway and also a bit of poke when i want to have a bit fo fun
As for the normal gti, i recon id love it for a bit but then regret not going for the more powerful option of the ed30
I think im just going to have to go for it! :driver:
lets face it if i was change my mind in 6 months i can always change back!
now then... which colour :grin: really fancy a red one but not too sure if the back end is too red...
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Good choice. You won't regret it.
Here is the brochure:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/brochures/old-brochure/Golf/Golf-GTI-November-2006.pdf (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/brochures/old-brochure/Golf/Golf-GTI-November-2006.pdf)
Try not to be too picky, it might be a little while until the right spec and condition comes up.
You do realise that there is a third option... :evilgrin:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p206x206/17433_294724771102_14723_n.jpg)
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Edition 30 allday :happy2:
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If you like cars and can handle the extra £110 per month go for it !
I'd expect it wouldn't cost quite so much though looking at your mileage.
Since I've owned my car I've averaged 28mpg (stage 2+) although yesterday me the mrs and the wee one went for a day out to the loch for a swim and picnic - about a 90mile round trip - although for most of the trip we were stuck behind caravans an 40 - 50 mph so I just settled down and went with it on return I averaged 46 mpg which was a personal best!
Also a 450 mile trip down south returned 39mpg which may not sound that great, but trust me it was :evilgrin:
A remap should help mpg as well I recon I gained 2-3mpg from a stage 1 map,
Plus IM0 you are getting one of the best GTIs ever made and a limited edition one at that with a great engine and one that holds its money well.
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Yip I know, Came at a price though ! Following caravans and speed boats at 40-50 mph on one of the best roads in scotland :sad1:
I'm quite impressed with this eddy on mpg, this is my second 2+ eddy and it seems to be getting a bit better mpg than my last one for some reason, maybe the revo linear throttle map gives a bit more mpg when you are not using the revs who knows ?