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Title: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Ryan88uk on July 24, 2013, 09:18:38 pm
Hi All

Which would be a better choice Manual or DSG?  Been speaking to few people who have DSG and they swear by it but have read a few theads with people saying that the DSG will cut in if it feels the change is not safe? You don't get the freedom that you do with a manual and there better on tracks

Ryan
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: billman on July 24, 2013, 09:22:26 pm
You buy a program for the DSG so it doesn't shift up on it's own in manual mode and you are all set.
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Markyed30 on July 24, 2013, 09:28:32 pm
Drive both first but I had always drove manual before getting dsg and to start with I felt disconnected tbh, Now I'm used to it iv not looked back its just so quick even if ur plodding along and you need to get away just floor it and its done if ur modding a manual ull need to change clutch where as dsg you dont, Paddles are good to and ull never bounce the limiter either so +1 for dsg for me  :driver:
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Ryan88uk on July 24, 2013, 09:37:46 pm
You buy a program for the DSG so it doesn't shift up on it's own in manual mode and you are all set.

Do you mean a map the DSG?
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Ryan88uk on July 24, 2013, 09:38:45 pm
Drive both first but I had always drove manual before getting dsg and to start with I felt disconnected tbh, Now I'm used to it iv not looked back its just so quick even if ur plodding along and you need to get away just floor it and its done if ur modding a manual ull need to change clutch where as dsg you dont, Paddles are good to and ull never bounce the limiter either so +1 for dsg for me  :driver:

So not kick down or holding you back?
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: MC71 on July 24, 2013, 09:45:15 pm
Drive both Ryan.  :happy2:

Both have their plus/minus points. If your mapping your new toy past Stage 1 (which tour planning on) then a DSG will save you around £1k+ on a new uprated clutch and DMF/SMF. DSG is very good for launch control, always a laugh.

Happy car hunting!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: alackofspeed on July 24, 2013, 09:52:09 pm
Only car - probably a manual.
Own another car with manual box - get the DSG.
Use it on track - manual (it's slower, but that's not the point of track days).
Use it for towing - DSG

Basically....... you'll have to drive one and decide for yourself.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Ryan88uk on July 24, 2013, 09:55:11 pm
Drive both Ryan.  :happy2:

Both have their plus/minus points. If your mapping your new toy past Stage 1 (which tour planning on) then a DSG will save you around £1k+ on a new uprated clutch and DMF/SMF. DSG is very good for launch control, always a laugh.

Happy car hunting!  :drinking:

Fingers crossed hopefully looking at a black ED30 DSG Saturday not sure on the colour but it is well speced
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: MC71 on July 24, 2013, 09:58:39 pm
^^^^ Don't let the colour dissuade you, one of the best colours when its been polished properly.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Ryan88uk on July 24, 2013, 10:11:28 pm
^^^^ Don't let the colour dissuade you, one of the best colours when its been polished properly.  :happy2:

Did look at the colour pic thread on here and must say some pretty tasty black cars knocking about especially the one's with the lower lip in GTi red  :drool: just can't decide on what colours I would spray the wheels thinking dark grey?
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: MC71 on July 24, 2013, 10:38:23 pm
^^^^  Gold FTW.  :pomppomp:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2FOther%2520cars%2F5a3a625a9ef1332a5515b3949f521665_zps31cd12a0.jpg&hash=23a568c5687659737e97e8923993e594a6dfe401)
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Ryan88uk on July 25, 2013, 07:50:42 am
^^^^  Gold FTW.  :pomppomp:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2FOther%2520cars%2F5a3a625a9ef1332a5515b3949f521665_zps31cd12a0.jpg&hash=23a568c5687659737e97e8923993e594a6dfe401)

 :drool: :drool: :drool: :congrats: :happy2:

Sick!! That looks sooooooooo good
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: flashp on July 25, 2013, 05:20:55 pm
Hi All

Which would be a better choice Manual or DSG?  Been speaking to few people who have DSG and they swear by it but have read a few theads with people saying that the DSG will cut in if it feels the change is not safe? You don't get the freedom that you do with a manual and there better on tracks

Ryan

There's loads of reading here about this, have a punt around.

As for driving a DSG equipped car on track I have, my own. I would bet good money that there isn't a driver here that it wouldn't flatter. They may some who will say it's as much fun as a manual but a lap timer will show which is the more effective. I drove many laps around Goodwood and I can tell you that the sport program works brilliantly. Always no less than 4k on the rev counter, car is always balanced, 8ms gear changes, gear changes in places that you wouldn't dare depress the clutch pedal in a manual on a circuit. There are 1 or 2 bends where you can get hard onto the power part way round and it'll give you a gear without the cars balance getting upset. I have non standard suspension but I suspect a standard car would be not too different.

See what makes you smile more and buy that.  :happy2:

Typing on a phone makes me look like I just learned to write. B×××er.
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: billman on July 25, 2013, 05:58:29 pm
You buy a program for the DSG so it doesn't shift up on it's own in manual mode and you are all set.

Do you mean a map the DSG?

Yes that's exactly what I mean.
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: robdf2 on July 26, 2013, 11:00:09 am
Sorry to hijack your post but been thinking of a DSG for a while , test drove a scirocco R but I felt disconnected , as soon as I got back in my Leon Cupra again I was all smiles again , but I really want to line a DSG ,

One thing I would like to know from the DSG owners is how often do you use the paddles if at all ?
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Steve Saunders on July 26, 2013, 11:11:33 am
DSG, absolutely love it. Always had manual but I've been converted with the Edition 30.

90% of the time I'm in manual mode though, always use the paddles.
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Frodo-anni on July 26, 2013, 11:17:50 am
Sorry to hijack your post but been thinking of a DSG for a while , test drove a scirocco R but I felt disconnected , as soon as I got back in my Leon Cupra again I was all smiles again , but I really want to line a DSG ,

One thing I would like to know from the DSG owners is how often do you use the paddles if at all ?

I use my paddles most days, far more enjoyment from driving it as a manual. Only time it is left in D is if im in traffic or motorway crusing, but even then on the overtake i use the paddle to drop a gear.
 I do enjoy mine, but it did take time. A good few months and about 2.5k
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Ryan88uk on July 27, 2013, 01:16:20 pm
Just test drove 1 this morning and must say I'm sold :grin: love it the fact it's just effortless can keep your right foot flat and keep shifting thought it would be boring it would feel a bit life less disconnected from driving but no prefer it to manual best thing since slice bread lol
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Pikey Motorsports on July 27, 2013, 01:26:26 pm
my bro got a dsg r32 i had it for a week awhile back when he was away.. i thought it was okay at first but after a couple of days i soon got bored.. dimwitted to park with aswell, get a manual with a wotbox if you feel your missing out on quick shifts lol.. thats just my thoughts though ofcourse.. he also regrets dsg
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: imran359 on July 27, 2013, 01:27:27 pm
Recently moved from a manual to DSG and can honestly say i love it, haven't really used it in manual mode that much
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: N8KOW on July 28, 2013, 01:18:06 pm
I find the DSG more 'engaging' than manual whilst using the paddles. Driving a manual is like a full body work out  :laugh:
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Adam_B on July 28, 2013, 04:47:47 pm
DSG, absolutely love it. Always had manual but I've been converted with the Edition 30.

90% of the time I'm in manual mode though, always use the paddles.

This!

Recently got a regular GTI and loving the DSG, no issues with parking or three pointers either.
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: bigeyd on July 28, 2013, 05:35:43 pm
I use the paddles about one in five times of driving,I drive the Mrs ride and its a manual,seems a bit difficult,I think I'm getting lazy but the dsg is good
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Itsagthing on July 28, 2013, 07:33:24 pm
Swore when buying I wouldn't buy a dsg I'm a vw techy so knew what they were like, however when I grout my eddy dsg was the only one especially mapped up. Also do loads of track days and 1/4s feels great probably only use manual mode when I get egged on or overtaking other than that its awesome for not bothering to change gear all the time, plus left foot braking  :happy2:
Title: Re: Manual or DSG??
Post by: Saintsteve on July 28, 2013, 07:39:13 pm
Drive 95% of the time in manual. D is for slow moving traffic cues.

Mine now is remapped, which adds to the fun, slicker shifts and revs out to 7300rpm if you so wish..

Would never choose Manual if there was an option for a twin clutch car.

I've owned DSG cars for 7 years and still love it.