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All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: scopes on August 07, 2013, 04:09:03 am

Title: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on August 07, 2013, 04:09:03 am: some new faults, anyone point me in the right direction to getting them fixed,,, the intake runner fault was coming now and again, now this?

Wednesday,07,August,2013,03:59:19:05378
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.6 (x64)
Data version: 20121223

   Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.LBL
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 115 J HW: 1K0 907 115 F
  Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030
   Software Coding: 0403000318070060
   Work Shop Code: WSC 00191 264 15243
   VCID: 2D555FF0B4043C70BBD
2 Faults Found:

012691 - Intake Manifold Runner Control
   P3193 - 002 - Open Stop outside of Valid Range
   Freeze Frame:
   Fault Status: 01100010
   Fault Priority: 0
   Fault Frequency: 1
   Mileage: 139458 km
   Time Indication: 0
   Date: 2000.00.00
   Time: 03:57:58

   Freeze Frame:
   RPM: 0 /min
   Load: 0.0 %
   Speed: 0.0 km/h
   Temperature: 84.0°C
   Temperature: 42.0°C
   Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
   Voltage: 12.573 V

004248 - Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Position Sensor (G336)
   P1098 - 001 - Open or Short to Plus
   Freeze Frame:
   Fault Status: 01100001
   Fault Priority: 0
   Fault Frequency: 1
   Mileage: 139458 km
   Time Indication: 0
   Date: 2000.00.00
   Time: 03:57:58

   Freeze Frame:
   RPM: 0 /min
   Load: 0.0 %
   Speed: 0.0 km/h
   Temperature: 84.0°C
   Temperature: 42.0°C
   Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
   Voltage: 12.573 V

Readiness: 0110 0100

2006
gti
new throttlebody
knew adjuster on the side of the intake manifold

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/19649/P3193/012691

19649/P3193/012691 - Intake Manifold Runner Control: Open Stop outside of Valid Range

Possible Causes
Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Position Sensor (G336) faulty Intake Manifold Runner Control Basic Setting not performed

Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157) faulty

Possible Solutions
Check Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Position Sensor (G336) Perform Intake Manifold Runner Control Basic Setting

Check Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157) Perform Output Test

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http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17506/P1098/004248

17506/P1098/004248

Contents
[hide] 1 17506/P1098/004248 - Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Position Sensor (G336): Open or Short to Plus 1.1 Possible Causes
1.2 Possible Solutions
1.3 Special Notes

17506/P1098/004248 - Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Position Sensor (G336): Open or Short to Plus

Possible Causes
Intake Manifold Runner Control Basic Setting not performed
Wiring from/to Intake Manifold Runner Control faulty
Intake Manifold Runner Control faulty

Possible Solutions
Perform Intake Manifold Runner Control Basic Setting
Check/Repair Wiring from/to Intake Manifold Runner Control
Check/Replace Intake Manifold Runner Control

Special Notes
When found in Engine: 2.0l TFSI, perform Basic Setting.

thanks
Neil
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: danishmkvgti on August 07, 2013, 05:00:36 am: as it says, check wiring to the flapper control or eventually replace flapper motor :smiley:
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on August 07, 2013, 12:05:55 pm: cheers jake

i replaced the motor

so need to check the wiring, im no spark, what should i be looking for?

thanks
NEIL

:happy2:
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: danishmkvgti on August 07, 2013, 12:41:27 pm: Quote from: scopes on August 07, 2013, 12:05:55 pm
cheers jake

i replaced the motor

so need to check the wiring, im no spark, what should i be looking for?

thanks
NEIL

:happy2:

If the engine replacement didn't help i would replace the entire wiring loom, we did that on mine i believe it's app. 170£, that did the trick on mine :happy2:
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on August 07, 2013, 12:59:55 pm: Where did you get the loom?

thanks
Neil
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: danishmkvgti on August 07, 2013, 01:41:14 pm: vw dealer in germany :happy2:
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on August 07, 2013, 03:53:11 pm: cheers matey,

im just not sure where to start

but going try and get a look at it in vthe next few days....

could this be a bad problem?

as in drving it?

thanks
Mate
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: bacillus on August 07, 2013, 05:58:37 pm: Neil just checking the obvious but have you done a Intake Manifold Runner Control basic setting?
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: sanj on August 07, 2013, 07:40:51 pm: Just had my intake manifold runner motor replaced as mine was needing the basic setting doing every other week(only started with this problem a few week's after getting it mapped) and it run's perfect now!Got my midrange power back and you can feel the turbo kicking in when it should do.
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on September 10, 2013, 02:35:13 pm: Quote from: bacillus on August 07, 2013, 05:58:37 pm
Neil just checking the obvious but have you done a Intake Manifold Runner Control basic setting?

I missed this matey

yes done the basic settings, but still keeps coming back :sad1:

Quote from: sanj on August 07, 2013, 07:40:51 pm
Just had my intake manifold runner motor replaced as mine was needing the basic setting doing every other week(only started with this problem a few week's after getting it mapped) and it run's perfect now!Got my midrange power back and you can feel the turbo kicking in when it should do.

Hey sanj

how did you fix the problem, did you get it remapped, after?

:happy2:
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: bacillus on September 10, 2013, 03:03:05 pm: Neil, out of interest, what plugs are you using?
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on September 10, 2013, 03:29:16 pm: Hey Bacillus :wink:

Nology! silver... got from Aks Alex :happy2:

out of interest, why you asking, do you think it could related?

I have about 4 different sets of plugs all with low use on them... I could change over..

ngk 7
ngk 8
ik24 densos
nologys
bosh oems

Red coil packs in also...
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: vRSAlex on September 10, 2013, 05:44:53 pm: Quote from: scopes on September 10, 2013, 03:29:16 pm
Hey Bacillus :wink:

Nology! silver... got from Aks Alex :happy2:

out of interest, why you asking, do you think it could related?

I have about 4 different sets of plugs all with low use on them... I could change over..

ngk 7
ngk 8
ik24 densos
nologys
bosh oems

Red coil packs in also...

Just double check the nipples on the plugs are nice and tight.

I get the same runner faults on cars with and without Nology plugs, but its worth checking the nipples are all good.
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on September 10, 2013, 09:22:56 pm: Cheers Al

I just changed them over to try it for a week, put the NKG 7's in, as that's what I had in just before I changed to the nology plugs...

What exactly am I looking for on the nipples, just making sure they are tight enough?

:drinking:
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: bacillus on September 10, 2013, 10:46:10 pm: Quote from: scopes on September 10, 2013, 09:22:56 pm
What exactly am I looking for on the nipples, just making sure they are tight enough?

Yup...
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: schmidt_vr6 on December 19, 2015, 07:47:07 pm: Hi Guys.

I'm getting the same codes? Did this issue get sorted?

Thanks
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on December 19, 2015, 08:21:46 pm: What plugs you running ?
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: schmidt_vr6 on December 19, 2015, 10:09:22 pm: Don't know. Just bought the car mate.
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: scopes on December 19, 2015, 10:24:07 pm: What is your cars spec ? :driver:
Title: Re: Intake Manifold Runner Control
Post by: schmidt_vr6 on December 19, 2015, 10:50:12 pm: Gti dsg. Done 100,000