MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Gaz on August 13, 2013, 12:24:54 pm
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I bought my GTI a week ago and still cant get over how quick it seems to be. Is it just me?
It does have a Milltek cat-back, Neuspeed intake and Forge diverter valve, but none of these should be making it much over the standard 200bhp?
It had a stage 1 APR remap until VW wiped it with a software update (before i bought it).
Ive got a de-cat downpipe and non-resonated centre section on their way and a stage 2 remap on Friday, if it really is going to gain another 70bhp (270bhp claim) i cannot wait!
I sometimes think it maybe is actually still mapped, it seems to go very well for a 200bhp heavy car!?
Anyone else overly impressed with how quick they are standard??? If not, maybe it is mapped and i wont see the gains im expecting after stage 2! :laugh:
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I thought exactly the same when test-driving a 'standard' one at my local VW dealer, which I then went on to buy..
..only to find out later that it was pushing 240bhp (once I fitted the air intake) and 280 torques! Saved me £300 or so on a remap :wink:
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my stg 2+ eddie still has the ability to surprise me when you have not had the chance to have a good blast for a while, point to point they can really shift once all the handling/transmission mods are sorted :driver:
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I thought exactly the same when test-driving a 'standard' one at my local VW dealer, which I then went on to buy..
..only to find out later that it was pushing 240bhp (once I fitted the air intake) and 280 torques! Saved me £300 or so on a remap :wink:
Was it already remapped? Or just doing good power standard!?
A stage 2 Ed will be even more fun! :D
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Had a blast with a 182 last night. It was quicker than I thought!!! :confused:
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Hmm im beginning to think mine maybe is still mapped, i doubt it would struggle with a Clio 182!
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Can also depend on what you're coming from.
I came from a mk2 1.6, so the GTI was a beast compared to that.
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Hmm im beginning to think mine maybe is still mapped, i doubt it would struggle with a Clio 182!
The car is running 320bhp. It should have eaten the Clio and spat it out lol. But it wasn't as easy as that! :(
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was the 182 standard? id have thought a 320bhp golf would absolutely destroy a 182! :surprised:
Im getting my GTI back today the DV was fkd when we went to load the revo stage 1 and DSG map on sunday and it was only giving us 0.4 bar instead of 1.2! Just got a pic of the old DV and the rubber seal is tore to bits, my mechanic said he took it for a spin there and its boosting very nicely. just hoping i notice a nice lift in power/torque when i pick it up later :drool:
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A 320bhp would not see a clio 182 in its way! Unless its a pretty special 182, or an unhealthy Golf? :scared:
Burt, what stage map did you go for? I presume it was the common diverter valve that failed with the higher boost?
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Hmm im beginning to think mine maybe is still mapped, i doubt it would struggle with a Clio 182!
The car is running 320bhp. It should have eaten the Clio and spat it out lol. But it wasn't as easy as that! :(
think you have a problem mate i have had loads of clio 182s and my golf running same power as yours would spank em all even running stock power in the ed30 they are close isn but not with 320bhp. think you need your car looking at or the clio was in no way stock but then again nor are you stock
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A 320bhp would not see a clio 182 in its way! Unless its a pretty special 182, or an unhealthy Golf? :scared:
Burt, what stage map did you go for? I presume it was the common diverter valve that failed with the higher boost?
Just going stage 1 at the minute with a CAI, and then when i get sorted with a Milltek DP and centre section ill go for stage2. Think ill stay at that as for stage2+ your looking at an IC and HPFP which cost a fair bit for an extra 10-15 horses or torques
Yeah it was the standard diverter valve, it threw up a fault when we ran the diagnostic before loading on the sortware,so had it replaced today and anew cam follower just in case. looking forward to taking it out for a spin later
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theres a nice supercharged 182 by me apparently 270hp when i was stage 2 320hp that was not a prob
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I was surprised at my standard ed30 been quick tbh. But once you start playing with it map, exsaust ect, you realise what an animal it can be lol. Embarrass a lot of motors :smiley:
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I was actually the opposite- I was very dissapointed when I first bought the GTi as it did not feel quick at all! however a remap soon sorted that out :driver:
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Mine as it is (with no map as far as i know) will start spinning up its 18" Falken tyres on boost in 2nd gear in the dry quite easily, 3rd gear if its even slightly on a bend. Good way to compare!? Lol.
It does have 3" downpipe, de-cat, milltek system, Neuspeed CAI and forge diverter valve, but they should make little difference!?
Think im just scared i go for remap and get told it still has its map (and that would explain its quickness), im wanting another 70bhp! Haha!
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Don't get me wrong. I overtook the Clio no problem.
I was just shocked how quickly he shot off when I was pootling about in 'D'. He took some catching lol
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Thats what you get for noncing about in 'D'...
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Yes - am continually surprised by mine - feels more than the 230hp that the ED30 is supposed to make. My old mkiv was over 250bhp plus (with a Ko4 conversion), but the delivery in the mk5 is smoother and pick-up feels better through the rev range.
On mine, I am sure the DSG helps with the feeling of speed - I don't think it is mapped, but one of the techs at APS did say to me 'your car 's a bit quick isn't - is it mapped?'. Bit of a surprise as Ed had a Sportec turbo conversion on his ED30, so am sure they know the cars very well.
I am sure it isn't, as the previous owner doesn't seem to have be an enthusiast in any way. I did only just have an edge on a mk5 R32 once, - so that seems to say it is standard. Out of interest I do want to get it on a RR, and it will be mapped at some point after the brakes and handling has been tightened up...
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I reckon a standard K03 would have a hard time against one; a 320bhp K04, nope.
The 182 is around 165bhp per tonne, a standard Mk5 GTI is 150.
PWR to Weight, BHP Per tonne:
Standard 182: 165
Standard Mk5 GTI: 150
S1 240 bhp GTI or Ed.30 standard: 185
S2 260 bhp GTI: 200
290bhp Ed.30: 221
320bhp Ed.30: 244 :laugh:
Perhaps it was stripped out.
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You also have to remember the sheer turbo torque that we have too, its the torque that makes you accelerate quickly! :driver:
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In the wet a n/a 2.0 sport puts power down well compaired to a 300+bhp gti :booty:
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The speed and smooth delivery just never gets old / boring.....I have only had mine a week though!
Sometimes you dont realise how fast you are actually going because its so smooth.
Will be getting a stage 1 at some point but I cant imagine how much 'faster' it would feel with it. Will no doubt bring a mahooosive grin to my face!
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LOL, you want to see what Statllers Golf is like with around 500bhp! :happy2:
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Got mine back last night with a new DV and its now running full boost at stage 1 Revo...the difference over standard is massive, combined with the DSG map it piles on speed very quickly and like to spin up in 2nd gear in the dry when coming on boost, before it wouldnt even spin in the wet :laugh:
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Stupidly i never ran my gti standard for long enough to appreciate how much more impressive it is now,i often wish that i had kept it longer through the stages of tune iv now had the awesome k04 conversion done and at stage three with that next step is a golf r for four wheel drive and it will all start again lmao
Dougie :happy2:
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Stupidly i never ran my gti standard for long enough to appreciate how much more impressive it is now,i often wish that i had kept it longer through the stages of tune iv now had the awesome k04 conversion done and at stage three with that next step is a golf r for four wheel drive and it will all start again lmao
Dougie :happy2:
what sort of power/torque is it running now mate? :drool: i take it a K04 conversion is big money though :sad1:
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I was massively surprised how quick these are! Had a BMW 530i, then a Hawkeye WRX before that and the Golf smashes the BM and even feels marginally quicker than the WRX.
I normally change my cars every 6 months or so but I can see us keeping the Golf for considerably longer! Awesome car!
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^^^ same here, ive had all sorts of performance cars over the years and usually change every 6 months myself but im really taken by the GTI, it ticks all the boxes, they do need a stage 1 map though, a little bit slow in standard form