MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: edition30jmr on August 16, 2013, 06:43:47 pm
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Hi guys need some advice! I'm going to view an ed30 on Monday!
Here's the spec:
HPI CLEAR
2007 Red 38k miles
manual gearbox
New cambelt and brakes (disks and pads) plus new tyres!
3 owners (he says he's the only owner hpi says otherwise)
(He's had the car for one year)
Highline display
iPod connection in armrest
Mint condition
Price is £11000
What do you guys think, what things should I look out for with a private sale, how will I know if the car has been thrashed etc as I've always brought from garages, so I'm a bit concerned in case anything goes wrong!?
Any help etc would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks Jay :laugh:
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If buying privately I always look at things like tyres to see if they have been replaced by a decent brand or budgets, check all the service history is upto date, look through receipts to see if any work has been carried out.
As for thrashing, most gtis will of had the odd blast so that should be nothing to worry about.
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Okay that's brilliant mate! It's also had the Cambelt changed recently and fresh disks and pads as well as new tyres!
Thanks Jay
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11K seems abit too much given it's a private buy, you'd expect that price from the dealers! Is that all the spec? No xenons, mfsw etc?
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What tyres and disks/pads have been put on will indicate what type of owner the seller is , if he has skimped then i would steer clear at £11k especially as he says he is the only owner and its had three . Documentation of the servicing is paramount too , anyone can get a service book stamped .
With 38k on it there really should be no signs of any excessive wear , if your're near Ipswich come and look at mine at 21k to see what a Mint condition one should look like (i value mine at £11k too but its not for sale)
Good luck , but if unsure don't buy it or at least get a second opinion :smiley:
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It does seem short of spec and a fair wedge for an early, manual Eddy, albeit with decent mileage.
I'd have no problem buying privately, you've done an HPI check, look at the condition of the interior, paintwork and engine bay, will give you an idea what's what. FSH is a must.
I'd offer £10k and walk away if they say no as you'll find better spec'd cars for £11k. Probably some on here in the For Sale section.
Happy car hunting. :drinking:
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Make sure you stick your head under the car any have a good look at the fuel filter.
If the service book says its been done and the bolt looks fully rusted in , then service history my be cuckoo .
Check the bills and check the oil , water etc if the service is full vw ring vw
11k does seem steep for a private sale.
I have just picked one up from main dealer with similar miles , full vw history for less
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I'd be really concerned about the fact he's saying he's the only owner when HPI says otherwise. The V5 will confirm the number of owners too so I'd ask to see a picture of that before you even go to view the car.
Claiming he's the only owner is quite a big lie and I'd be pretty worried about that...
Also how does he claim to be the only owner and then have only owned the car for one year?!?!
Something doesn't sound right to me... :confused:
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I bought my edy 30 privately. Make sure when you test drive it there are no banging or knocking sounds and it pulls smooth and hard in each gear. It shouldn'5 pull to one side under heavy braking. Check to make sure there is no blue smoke from the rear.
Have a good look under the bonnet and check all fluid levels like the other member posted. Open the oil filler cap and check for a white mayonaise like substance. If anything like that walk away, most likely head gasket gone and is expensive to fix. Oil should be a honey like colour and not black and clumpy. Again probably been neglected if you find this.
Check tyre ware and look for rust. They are pretty much rust free however check the door pillars ESP the rear which are known to rust.
Make sure FSH present and check this matches the receipts/invoices to show work has been done. MOT's should be present. Check the log book to make sure the chassis no's match up. You can check this either under the bonnet or front of the dash under the windscreen.
11k seems a bit much for the spec even though the mileage is low for the year of the car. I would go in at 9k and work up. I wouldn't pay any more than 10k max. Good luck mate. :happy2:
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Make sure you stick your head under the car any have a good look at the fuel filter.
If the service book says its been done and the bolt looks fully rusted in , then service history my be cuckoo .
Check the bills and check the oil , water etc if the service is full vw ring vw
11k does seem steep for a private sale.
I have just picked one up from main dealer with similar miles , full vw history for less
Fuel filter is a non serviceable item on a petrol Mk5 Golf (unlike the diesel) and VW don't replace it during the life of the car so not an indicator of anything so it wont appear on any VW service. Lots of us do change the fuel filter as a serviceable item, after all it is a filter and only costs £20 ish.
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I think the title of the thread says alot - you already mention "my ed30". Get any notion of you owning this car already out of your head ASAP. I made this mistake a few years ago - stopped me from walking away when i should have. I had plenty of time to reflect on this afterwards!
Just echoing what pretty much every one else has said really. I would find out if the water pump as changed at the same time as the cambelt.
Might be worth get the MoT certificate checked out to make sure the mileage adds up..
Hope this helps
Rich
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Make sure you stick your head under the car any have a good look at the fuel filter.
If the service book says its been done and the bolt looks fully rusted in , then service history my be cuckoo .
Check the bills and check the oil , water etc if the service is full vw ring vw
11k does seem steep for a private sale.
I have just picked one up from main dealer with similar miles , full vw history for less
Fuel filter is a non serviceable item on a petrol Mk5 Golf (unlike the diesel) and VW don't replace it during the life of the car so not an indicator of anything so it wont appear on any VW service. Lots of us do change the fuel filter as a serviceable item, after all it is a filter and only costs £20 ish.
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That is good info on the fuel filter, vw insisted it had to be done at 40k .
In fact they are insisting on changing the spark plugs, fuel filter , air filter every 2 years at present £295
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I think the title of the thread says alot - you already mention "my ed30". Get any notion of you owning this car already out of your head ASAP. I made this mistake a few years ago - stopped me from walking away when i should have. I had plenty of time to reflect on this afterwards!
Just echoing what pretty much every one else has said really. I would find out if the water pump as changed at the same time as the cambelt.
Might be worth get the MoT certificate checked out to make sure the mileage adds up..
Hope this helps
Rich
Hi Rich yeah that's helped loads guys I really appreciate what advise you guys have said to me it's really helped! Like one person said I'm gonna go in at 9k once everything has been checked throughout!
Thanks again! Il let you guys know how I get on!
Jay
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Have you got a link to the advert?
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Have you got a link to the advert?
Yes the eBay item number is: 171079748780
Whack it in the search bar :)
Please give me some more opinions! Thanks again guys
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Open the oil filler cap and check for a white mayonaise like substance. If anything like that walk away, most likely head gasket gone and is expensive to fix.
Hmm, not a given on a GTI - could simply mean the car has seen lots of short journeys and the condensation hasn't been liberated.
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The car looks nice mate but the fact that he's specifically put that it's only had one owner from new yet your HPI check has said differently would be really worrying to me.
Doesn't mention service history either.
I'd request some more info before you go and see it mate. Get him to send you a picture of the V5 to prove the one ownership for a start. Then get him to send some pics of the service book and ring some of the dealers to double check it's actually been there.
If he genuinely has been the only owner then I'd expect him to have all the paperwork in order and stuff.
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The car looks nice mate but the fact that he's specifically put that it's only had one owner from new yet your HPI check has said differently would be really worrying to me.
Doesn't mention service history either.
I'd request some more info before you go and see it mate. Get him to send you a picture of the V5 to prove the one ownership for a start. Then get him to send some pics of the service book and ring some of the dealers to double check it's actually been there.
If he genuinely has been the only owner then I'd expect him to have all the paperwork in order and stuff.
Thanks mate and yeah something isn't quite right really!
I've found a few other cars which have full vw service history etc and are mint low miles so hopefully il go view some tomorrow etc!
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How can someone only own a 2007 regd car a year and say he is the only owner? Was it suspended in another dimension for 5 years or something? :stupid:
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How can someone only own a 2007 regd car a year and say he is the only owner? Was it suspended in another dimension for 5 years or something? :stupid:
I haven't got a clue, haha, on the hpi check it says he brought the car this time lad year roughly and he says he's the only owner so I'm not even bothering with it! I found one better I can probably get for 1000k more! :D
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How can someone only own a 2007 regd car a year and say he is the only owner? Was it suspended in another dimension for 5 years or something? :stupid:
I haven't got a clue, haha, on the hpi check it says he brought the car this time lad year roughly and he says he's the only owner so I'm not even bothering with it! I found one better I can probably get for 1000k more! :D
what have you found now ???
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How can someone only own a 2007 regd car a year and say he is the only owner? Was it suspended in another dimension for 5 years or something? :stupid:
I haven't got a clue, haha, on the hpi check it says he brought the car this time lad year roughly and he says he's the only owner so I'm not even bothering with it! I found one better I can probably get for 1000k more! :D
1000k more makes it hypercar expensive :signLOL:
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How can someone only own a 2007 regd car a year and say he is the only owner? Was it suspended in another dimension for 5 years or something? :stupid:
I haven't got a clue, haha, on the hpi check it says he brought the car this time lad year roughly and he says he's the only owner so I'm not even bothering with it! I found one better I can probably get for 1000k more! :D
1000k more makes it hypercar expensive :signLOL:
Haha a white eddy going to see it in the morning :)
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Haha a white eddy going to see it in the morning :)
Link to advert ????
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk5-mk6/volkswagen-golf-mk5-gti-edition30-t-230-----------2007/1563244
What you guys recon?
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£13,000 :scared:
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£13,000 :scared:
I know it's steep it includes the plate in the sale too :smiley:
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^^^^ Sh*t a brick, that's expensive for a early, bog standard Eddy, oh its got sissy sensors. :laugh:
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I know my moms Gti has got sensors they do my bloody head in!
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Bit puzzled by the advert , cam belt & water pump done on 13th August but no record ????
It's only 17th today
.£13750 ............ Wow !
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Yeah i rang him he's got the receipts! I'm really unsure just did a hpi check il post the results in confused seems strange!
Report Summary
Data currently held on the National Mileage Register (NMR) indicates that there may be a mileage discrepancy on this vehicle.
Alert Details
Plate Transfer
Plate Transfer
The current plate was transferred to this vehicle on 14/05/2010
VF07MYD was applied to this vehicle on 11/07/2007
There are no interests recorded against VF07MYD
NMR
Please recheck the mileage and notify us if it was incorrectly keyed.
National Mileage Register
Data currently held on the National Mileage Register (NMR) indicates that there may be a mileage discrepancy on this vehicle.
Mileages as recorded by the National Mileage Register
Date recorded Recorded by Mileage reading Total
11-Jul-2007 NMR 12 12
02-Oct-2007 NMR 1,000 1,000
02-Oct-2007 NMR 1,200 1,200
09-Oct-2007 NMR 1,200 1,200
26-Oct-2007 NMR 1,500 1,500
06-May-2009 NMR 9,000 9,000
06-May-2009 NMR 9,475 9,475
17-May-2009 NMR 9,000 9,000
17-May-2009 NMR 9,800 9,800
19-May-2009 NMR 9,000 9,000
29-May-2009 DVLA 92,000 92,000
14-Apr-2010 DVLA 12,000 12,000
How weird is that? :S
Any ideas guys?
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sorry about how it came out it wouldn't copy and paste properly!
haha
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looks to me like some one has clocked it
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looks to me like some one has clocked it
hmm amen i think!
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Mate stop looking at dodgy cars and just check out the for sale section on this forum! There's a couple of ed30's listed there atyour price range so just get something that you know has been looked after from here!
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Yeah i rang him he's got the receipts! I'm really unsure just did a hpi check il post the results in confused seems strange!
Report Summary
Data currently held on the National Mileage Register (NMR) indicates that there may be a mileage discrepancy on this vehicle.
Alert Details
Plate Transfer
Plate Transfer
The current plate was transferred to this vehicle on 14/05/2010
VF07MYD was applied to this vehicle on 11/07/2007
There are no interests recorded against VF07MYD
NMR
Please recheck the mileage and notify us if it was incorrectly keyed.
National Mileage Register
Data currently held on the National Mileage Register (NMR) indicates that there may be a mileage discrepancy on this vehicle.
Mileages as recorded by the National Mileage Register
Date recorded Recorded by Mileage reading Total
11-Jul-2007 NMR 12 12
02-Oct-2007 NMR 1,000 1,000
02-Oct-2007 NMR 1,200 1,200
09-Oct-2007 NMR 1,200 1,200
26-Oct-2007 NMR 1,500 1,500
06-May-2009 NMR 9,000 9,000
06-May-2009 NMR 9,475 9,475
17-May-2009 NMR 9,000 9,000
17-May-2009 NMR 9,800 9,800
19-May-2009 NMR 9,000 9,000
29-May-2009 DVLA 92,000 92,000
14-Apr-2010 DVLA 12,000 12,000
How weird is that? :S
Any ideas guys?
Wasnt this car on here a couple of months ago.? i seem to remember he was selling on Ebay and the original owner on here spotted it . Our members reported him and sent him messages and he took it down. It could be a different car of course. :chicken:
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Has it not been rounded down, then put in correctly, then rounded down again, then an extra 0 put on to make it 92000 not 9200? If you're going to clock a car you don't take a few hundred miles off.
Either way, it is going to be tough for the seller removing the doubt, especially at that price.
I think the arse has fallen out of CW values recently so I guess that price will plummet, especially when others do a check and back out.
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Mate stop looking at dodgy cars and just check out the for sale section on this forum! There's a couple of ed30's listed there atyour price range so just get something that you know has been looked after from here!
:happy2:
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You can have my 21000 mile 2007 Ed30 for £12k
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Walk away from that. Way too over priced as well. Check out the for sale section on here like another member posted.
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Hi guys good news I got an eddy, red, 38k miles 07 manual! Only one owner from new well chuffed!
Thanks for your help etc!
Jay
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I would guess that the NMR stuff is due to data entry errors, not clocking. The 92,000 looks like it may have been 9,200. Part of the problem is HPI checks - NMR records the data input, so if someone does an HPI with an 'approx' number or wrongly types it, it can end up on the car's record. Anyway, congrats on your new car!
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Thanks :driver:
Will upload some pics when I've collected the car and give it a fresh coat of wax!
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Thanks :driver:
Will upload some pics when I've collected the car and give it a fresh coat of wax!
:laugh:
Good stuff mate, glad you managed to find a good one in the end! :happy2:
Looking forward to seeing the pics!