MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: ianv5 on August 22, 2013, 11:37:22 am
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I have had my gti for a year and a half and was thinking about moving to an Edition 30. Went and had a look at one in Peterborough 5 door in white with 65k on the clock, 2008 model with mfsw and parking sensors, no other obvious upgrades, radio was a basic vw one, up for £11995.
Condition was ok but me being a perfectionist my 2005 tornado red is in better condition. My gti has 74k on the clock so not a great difference in mileage. Both have full service history.
So I asked how much to part ex, dealer would not move on price of Eddie £11995, offered me £5500 for mine, I know I would prob get about £6500 for mine if I sold privately (hopefully).
So the question is, is an editon 30 3 years younger than mine really worth £6495 more than my 2005 gti!
Personally I don't think so, with that amount of money I could run my current car for a few more years and spend quite alot on remaps, upgrades etc.
Also I have noticed that mk6 gti prices are getting pretty close to top end Eddie prices.
I know the Eddie is a limited addition but not worth the extra for me at the moment.
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IMHO it's not worth over double the price of yours.
If you wanted the Eddie look, you could do a bit of colour coding on yours and do a few bolt-ons if you want the extra power. The ed30 is expensive for what you actually get (bigger turbo a few bits of red stitching etc) over a standard GTI, but i guess your paying for the exclusivity more than anything.
If I was in that position, i'd spend a few £'s in improving yours or spend the extra on a MK6 GTI which then at least your getting a newer model with an improved engine (no cam follower issues).
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Totally agree!
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I would think that £5,500 trade offer on an 05 GTI with 74k was pretty good though.
You are right though the price to change is a big jump.
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Must admit £5500 was pretty good, but still a big jump for the Eddie.
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an improved engine (no cam follower issues).
There is a nasty timing chain tensioner issue with the EA888. It's a much more expensive fix than a cam follower.
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IMO don't spend £6495 to upgrade. Save for a Mk6 R.
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I wouldn't for £6.5k either - having said that you can pick up a nice Eddie for £9-9.5k, so makes it £2.5-3k change which is a lot more appealing.
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IMO don't spend £6495 to upgrade. Save for a Mk6 R.
Funny you should mention this but have been looking at these on the web this afternoon!
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I love my K04 but even I would say the increase is far too much of a leap.
There are other options though.
How about a kit to upgrade the turbo on your existing GTI to a K04 for £2.1k (example) :evilgrin::
http://www.backdraftmotorsport.com/shop-vag-2.0tfsi/bdm-2.0-tfsi-k03-k04-turbo-upgrade/flypage.tpl.html (http://www.backdraftmotorsport.com/shop-vag-2.0tfsi/bdm-2.0-tfsi-k03-k04-turbo-upgrade/flypage.tpl.html)
You would be able to pick up the style tweaks as well, save a fortune and you know you the condition meets your standards!
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IMO don't spend £6495 to upgrade. Save for a Mk6 R.
Funny you should mention this but have been looking at these on the web this afternoon!
It's a great car, prices are getting to an affordable level. Very few issues with them seemingly - they use a modified EA113 from the Mk5 GTI.
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I love my K04 but even I would say the increase is far too much of a leap.
There are other options though.
How about a kit to upgrade the turbo on your existing GTI to a K04 for £2.1k (example) :evilgrin::
http://www.backdraftmotorsport.com/shop-vag-2.0tfsi/bdm-2.0-tfsi-k03-k04-turbo-upgrade/flypage.tpl.html (http://www.backdraftmotorsport.com/shop-vag-2.0tfsi/bdm-2.0-tfsi-k03-k04-turbo-upgrade/flypage.tpl.html)
You would be able to pick up the style tweaks as well, save a fortune and you know you the condition meets your standards!
I think a quick trip to r tech, stage 1 remap, bcs exhaust system along with my forge twin take will suffice while I ponder a mk6 golf r!
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IMO don't spend £6495 to upgrade. Save for a Mk6 R.
Funny you should mention this but have been looking at these on the web this afternoon!
It's a great car, prices are getting to an affordable level. Very few issues with them seemingly - they use a modified EA113 from the Mk5 GTI.
At least the engine is tried and tested, seen one for 19k, so yes getting affordable, liking it in blue or white! Would think a re map would take it to 300bhp ?
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I think Stage 1 map brings them to 310bhp. The stock clutch isn't great apparently if you buy a manual and there's a good chance of slip with a stage 1 map.
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I think Stage 1 map brings them to 310bhp. The stock clutch isn't great apparently if you buy a manual and there's a good chance of slip with a stage 1 map.
So into s3 territory! Think I would like a dsg as not had one before but have used it in a r32 and liked it!
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Better start saving!
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an improved engine (no cam follower issues).
There is a nasty timing chain tensioner issue with the EA888. It's a much more expensive fix than a cam follower.
Only been a few instances of that failing. R32 has the same concern.
At least there's no belt to change every 4 years I suppose :smiley:
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I think Stage 1 map brings them to 310bhp. The stock clutch isn't great apparently if you buy a manual and there's a good chance of slip with a stage 1 map.
Slip, slip, sliding away!
You "might" manage Stage 1 but (like me) plan on a £1k+ bill for an uprated clutch after that! :laugh:
Back on topic, its not worth the jump in monies IMO. I went from a GTI to an Eddy and love it but when I bought mine a couple of years ago the difference was a lot less so less of a factor.
If you can wait, get an R when money allows! :happy2:
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I think Stage 1 map brings them to 310bhp. The stock clutch isn't great apparently if you buy a manual and there's a good chance of slip with a stage 1 map.
Slip, slip, sliding away!
You "might" manage Stage 1 but (like me) plan on a £1k+ bill for an uprated clutch after that! :laugh:
Back on topic, its not worth the jump in monies IMO. I went from a GTI to an Eddy and love it but when I bought mine a couple of years ago the difference was a lot less so less of a factor.
If you can wait, get an R when money allows! :happy2:
Yip same here I went from a stage 2+ GTi to a 2+ Eddy and tbh I had equal amounts of fun in the GTI, at 6k its not worth the upgrade although it is a fair bit quicker at that state of tune.
3k worth of second had tuning parts will see rekindle your love for the GTI
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Hi mate..it's not worth splashing all that money upgrading from a gti to a ed30...I got to the point where I stopped modding my Eddie as I had traction issues due to the power so I sold it & brought a golfR..if you decide to get a golfR you won't be disappointed,I'm currently on GIAC extreme map with dsg stg3 map pushing out around 340-350bhp with similar lbft...it's awesome,no more issues with traction now...
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Have decided that my next car will be a golf R, have seen a couple already creeping under 20k so hopefully by this time next year I might be in the position to get one:-)
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I have had my gti for a year and a half and was thinking about moving to an Edition 30. Went and had a look at one in Peterborough 5 door in white with 65k on the clock, 2008 model with mfsw and parking sensors, no other obvious upgrades, radio was a basic vw one, up for £11995.
Condition was ok but me being a perfectionist my 2005 tornado red is in better condition. My gti has 74k on the clock so not a great difference in mileage. Both have full service history.
So I asked how much to part ex, dealer would not move on price of Eddie £11995, offered me £5500 for mine, I know I would prob get about £6500 for mine if I sold privately (hopefully).
So the question is, is an editon 30 3 years younger than mine really worth £6495 more than my 2005 gti!
Personally I don't think so, with that amount of money I could run my current car for a few more years and spend quite alot on remaps, upgrades etc.
Also I have noticed that mk6 gti prices are getting pretty close to top end Eddie prices.
I know the Eddie is a limited addition but not worth the extra for me at the moment.
By going to a dealer you are probably paying a couple of grand for a hassle free change over you could sell yours privately and then go and find a Private ED30 save yourself maybe £2.5 - £3K but there is a lot more hassle involved and we know how dealers rip you off but there are in business to make money
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I was looking at Ed30's this morning and reckon 10K will now get you a good one. 12 seems a lot. It'll be hard finding one in the colour you want though.