MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: vRStu on August 26, 2009, 11:18:34 am
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK5-T10-501-LED-SIDELIGHTS-NO-WARNING-ERRORS_W0QQitemZ280368513646QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item414744026e&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14#ht_1227wt_941
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Not tried these, and they look odd, but dying for some LED sidelights so will keep an eye on this...
Be the guinea pig ;)
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Not tried these, and they look odd, but dying for some LED sidelights so will keep an eye on this...
Be the guinea pig ;)
+1 :party:
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or maybe even these, out recently for non xenon cars...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parts4euro.com%2FDCShop%2Fimages%2F50105a.jpg&hash=27d81c7dcf8af6920efcb334a96a7634e379feb7)
http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?products_id=751 (http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?products_id=751)
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or maybe even these, out recently for non xenon cars...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parts4euro.com%2FDCShop%2Fimages%2F50105a.jpg&hash=27d81c7dcf8af6920efcb334a96a7634e379feb7)
http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?products_id=751 (http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?products_id=751)
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Ditto
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I have LED Sidelights in mine ;)
Carl :happy2:
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or maybe even these, out recently for non xenon cars...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parts4euro.com%2FDCShop%2Fimages%2F50105a.jpg&hash=27d81c7dcf8af6920efcb334a96a7634e379feb7)
http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?products_id=751 (http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?products_id=751)
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And LHD only. :sick:
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Buy some cheaper ones and get your soldering iron out :laugh: :laugh:
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I have LED Sidelights in mine ;)
Carl :happy2:
............ :worthless:
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F9kmpmh.jpg&hash=d2bf6b8bd0d2352de20ba3327ddff1ccb333901a)[/QUOTE]
Not my car but it gives the Idea of what they look like
And they dont look that bright the camera is making them look brighter. They aren't really any brighter than normal sides they are just white instead of yellowish white :smiley:
Carl :happy2:
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Carl... would really like to see a picture of yours with them on :party:
Where d'you get yours from ?
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Here's mine with the LED's
Side lights: -
Before
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FIMG_1655.jpg&hash=8a6b3e11fa6639dfdb5e70eac64c8dae74dd8e2d)
After
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FIMG_1654.jpg&hash=80553c8b0738a8f34900917c95b7be79d5d5be70)
Puddle Lights: -
Before
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FIMG_1664.jpg&hash=c6974bac2aa83d974f80453fdbd980bfa4b97d19)
After
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FIMG_1663.jpg&hash=7011d820dbbb4a0abad5e60dbfae41d846825ca0)
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i have become the guinea pig, this is prob the 12th pair of sidelights i will have :signLOL:
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no:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tmtuning.com%2FHOME%2Fmedienarchiv%2Fbilder%2F6331_g5-l-138_3.jpg&hash=fa58f84d82793d7e097ba2362bd75cca18be39c4)
yes:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golfmk5.com%2Fforums%2Fpicture.php%3Falbumid%3D307%26amp%3Bpictureid%3D1365&hash=a3466c7d2777109418c2faf63fbb58815722b9ea)
simples :innocent:
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I want some STEVEP :pomppomp:
The thingg is... would someone fit them for me ? :ashamed: I'd pay them glady :smiley:
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Keeping my eye on this thred, possible group buy???
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The one's installed are standard LED's and have added a resistor to get around the bulb check on the sidelights.
The puddle lights don't have a bulb check that switches them off or shows the dash bulb out message in the same way so don't require the resistor (but do still show a bulb out warning in fault codes).
I would like to see the results with these bulbs are the first SMD type LED's I tried weren't very bright :confused:
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i would have said SMDs werent really the best solution for the sidelights.
SMDs (although smaller ones) are used to light up your phone screen, and your dash and highline.
The type with four Leds in the 501 shaped plug with a resistor are probably the best bet
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any links jay?
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got the ebay ones today and they seem great :happy2: and there brighter than my mtec ones, all they have to do now is last. The only slight prob was they are a tight fit in the bulb holder, heres a couple of pics
comparison to old mtec light (left)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw199%2Fv2brett%2F008.jpg&hash=9025a803b516cddbdded871830068dd51dbab4fc)
both new led lights
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw199%2Fv2brett%2F012-2.jpg&hash=be9c609b6765f72b59a482e65614d6fe42bdb7b3)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw199%2Fv2brett%2F016.jpg&hash=cb0f5d4c5bde53523517953b7be933c8c5e53a8f)
ill try get some better shots when its dark
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I need those...
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So which ones are these? Link?
No faults at all apartt from tight fit?
Cheers, Dom
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So, you guys with the aftermarket sidelights - When do you drive with just sidelights?
Do you use them as Daylight Running Lights?
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So, you guys with the aftermarket sidelights - When do you drive with just sidelights?
Do you use them as Daylight Running Lights?
I don't have aftermarket sidelights but I drive around with my sidelights on as DRLs.
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So, you guys with the aftermarket sidelights - When do you drive with just sidelights?
Do you use them as Daylight Running Lights?
I don't have aftermarket sidelights but I drive around with my sidelights on as DRLs.
....OEM sidelights will be ineffective as DRL's but the LED sidelights would be more effective but I don't know if they would meet the forthcoming legal requirements - Doubtful unless you switch them differently and their candella strength may not fall within the legal range - I don't know.
Either way, I expect that most people here simply want these LED sidelights just for eye-candy.
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....OEM sidelights will be ineffective as DRL's
In your humble opinion of course Robin :wink:
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I don't have aftermarket sidelights but I drive around with my sidelights on as DRLs.
....OEM sidelights will be ineffective as DRL's but the LED sidelights would be more effective but I don't know if they would meet the forthcoming legal requirements - Doubtful unless you switch them differently and their candella strength may not fall within the legal range - I don't know.
Either way, I expect that most people here simply want these LED sidelights just for eye-candy.
To the contrary, OEM sidelights are used (legally) as DRLs in a number of countries including the US/NorAm and Scandinavia. The reason LEDs are stipulated for the forthcoming EU legislation (on new vehicles) in 2011 is so that certain countries which did not want to have mandatory DRLs - the UK - will accept their introduction.
Certain lower-spec Audis sold today without the spiff LED DRLs use their normal sidelights as DRL as well.
As to that second point, I too think a large part of it is the eye-candy thing.
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The MK6 uses sidelights as DRL's, as do some of the 'lower spec' Audi A3's and 4's.
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....OEM sidelights will be ineffective as DRL's
In your humble opinion of course Robin :wink:
....As always :wink:
I'm saying that whether oem sidelights become legal or not in the UK as DRL's, I'm doubtful they would meet some other EC country rules. But more importantly than the rules, they simply don't measure up to the strength and hence effectiveness on the road as dedicated DRL's such as on Audi's (and my Hella DRL's).
I think that LED sidelights are a great idea though - I personally just don't need them as I very rarely use just sidelights as I have auto-switching Hella's.
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The MK6 uses sidelights as DRL's, as do some of the 'lower spec' Audi A3's and 4's.
....Yes, and the Mk6 'sidelights' are considerably bigger and more effective as DRL's than on the Mk5.
The oem Mk5 sidelights are a waste of time imo, so LED version is a good upgrade.
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Well mine is perhaps not what you'd call a lower spec Audi however I have DRL's as a factory option - Oh and guess what they are the sidelights, so clearly they already meet UK legislation for type approval.
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Well mine is perhaps not what you'd call a lower spec Audi however I have DRL's as a factory option - Oh and guess what they are the sidelights, so clearly they already meet UK legislation for type approval.
....Does yours have the rather stylish rows of LED's which the upper model Audi's have as DRL's?
Although the UK may class many sidelights as DRL's (it virtually has to in order to be seen to be complying with EC directives), the fact remains that most sidelights are not as effective in real-world road conditions when directly compared to the dedicated DRL's which comply with EC rules.
There's a difference between an EC officially recognised DRL and a light which is simply used as a daylight running light. Any lights on during daylight may be described by some as daylight running lights.
So, an upgrade to the LED side lights of this topic has got to be a welcome mod.
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Well mine is perhaps not what you'd call a lower spec Audi however I have DRL's as a factory option - Oh and guess what they are the sidelights, so clearly they already meet UK legislation for type approval.
Sorry Stu! :ashamed:
I forgot the the S3's up until last year had the side light DRL's! :drinking:
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I forgot the the S3's up until last year had the side light DRL's!
....What do they have now?
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So which ones are these? Link?
No faults at all apartt from tight fit?
Cheers, Dom
Anyone?
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or maybe even these, out recently for non xenon cars...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parts4euro.com%2FDCShop%2Fimages%2F50105a.jpg&hash=27d81c7dcf8af6920efcb334a96a7634e379feb7)
http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?products_id=751 (http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?products_id=751)
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love em!!, Need those!!! :congrats: :party:
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FIMG_1654.jpg&hash=80553c8b0738a8f34900917c95b7be79d5d5be70)
....Those look so much better than the oem. Do you use them as daylight running lights? I didn't notice them on the road to The Ring in June.
:happy2:
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Although the UK may class many sidelights as DRL's (it virtually has to in order to be seen to be complying with EC directives), the fact remains that most sidelights are not as effective in real-world road conditions when directly compared to the dedicated DRL's which comply with EC rules.
Pish posh, the Americans and the Scandis have been using halogen sidelights for years in a highly effective manner. They are as effective in real-world road conditions as the DRLs stipulated by the EU.
The LEDs-as-sidelights condition was brought about mostly by the UK - the UK did not want the introduction of DRLs as they put a greater load on the alternator and increase fuel consumption (never mind the fact that every yahoo has the radio/satnav/ipod/kettle plugged into the vehicle's 12V bus).
There's a difference between an EC officially recognised DRL and a light which is simply used as a daylight running light. Any lights on during daylight may be described by some as daylight running lights.
So, an upgrade to the LED side lights of this topic has got to be a welcome mod.
You're showing your age Red! There's no "EC" in terms of legislation any more anymore :P and, to make it even more clear - the EU law on DRLs for new vehicles is less about output of beam, so on and so forth, but more to do with that they will always be on whenever the vehicle is running.
The use of LEDs as DRLs does not increase visibility (as LEDs as tailights do) but rather reduce running costs by decreasing the load on the vehicle's 12V bus.
The original EU legislation actually wanted dipped beams on at all times - as practiced by Finland, Iceland, and certain other artic-circle countries - but the UK government successfully argued against that claiming that DRLs would be able to perform a similar function with reduced fuel consumption.
And to get even more anal, DRL doesn't stand for "Daylight Running Light", it stands for "Daytime Running Light" :)
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I forgot the the S3's up until last year had the side light DRL's!
....What do they have now?
The notourious twinkly Audi LED strips. :happy2:
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^^^^
@ cmdrfire - I stand corrected! :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FHellaDRL_p8.jpg&hash=bac00762845b7bcbd531e52f04524db784b6719e)
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I forgot the the S3's up until last year had the side light DRL's!
....What do they have now?
The notourious twinkly Audi LED strips. :happy2:
....I thought so! Ta for the info :happy2:
I wouldn't want an Audi without those LED strips.
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@ cmdrfire - I stand corrected! :happy2:
Is that because of the corset or truss? :wink:
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So which ones are these? Link?
No faults at all apartt from tight fit?
Cheers, Dom
Anyone?
The ebay ones in the first post are the ones shown of the car here
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7149.msg111934#msg111934
These are plug and play by all accounts :happy2:
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So which ones are these? Link?
No faults at all apartt from tight fit?
Cheers, Dom
Anyone?
, the ebay ones have been in my car for a few days now and theres no `bulb out error` or anything and there much brighter than my old mtec sidelights, the only prob was they were tight into the holder but they went in with a bit of a wiggle and a shove.
i still need to get some better pics when im out at night
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Everytime i see the Audi DRL's i say NO :mad: they look :sick: they look camp as fcuk
I much more like the use of the side lights as DRL's as it serves its purpose and it dont look gay but imo the ones you have Red look to the unknowing folks out there that your running with your fogs lights on.
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Everytime i see the Audi DRL's i say NO :mad: they look :sick: they look camp as fcuk
I much more like the use of the side lights as DRL's as it serves its purpose and it dont look gay but imo the ones you have Red look to the unknowing folks out there that your running with your fogs lights on.
....Yep, I know :laugh:. But..
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FHotties%2FAmIBovvered.jpg&hash=27282bea7483387587f13800d7b806c8f8cd7020)
Everytime i see the Audi DRL's i say NO :mad: they look :sick: they look camp as fcuk
I much more like the use of the side lights as DRL's as it serves its purpose and it dont look gay
....I'm wondering if you are slightly homophobic :evilgrin: :grin:
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nah not me I normally use Hibernian to show my distaste but in this case 1 - folk wont know what i mean and 2 - it does sum up my feelings for them not that being gay is a bad thing from what ive been told :grin:
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OK - I've *potentially* bought the wrong bulbs (didn't think to check about the "bulb-out" error!!! D'Oh!! :grin:
I've bought THESE (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290136689632&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m38.l1313%26_nkw%3D290136689632%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1)
My understanding is that I'll need to add a resistor to each bulb to get around the error.
How do I do this? I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron, so the DIY route isn't an issue :happy2:
Thanks in advance
Dan
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^^^ Yep these are the ones that need a resistor across the two wires to increase the current being drawn so the bulb out feature isn;t triggered.
I personally use the ali shielded resistors on the sidelights as these dissipate the heat better than the wire wound ones :happy2:
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Fabbo. Any recommendations on resistor value?
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I have used 25ohm resistors rated to 25w :happy2:
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Nice one mate :happy2:
Will have a play when they turn up!!
Dan
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I've ordered the ones on the 1st post, and they have been dispatched already so should have them today/tomorrow, so will report back... Hope they last...
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Just a quick update:
The Ebay ones have been relisted, in fact all of the W5W/T10/501 he sells will fit our Golfs
Fitted mine today in <10 mins. (I have small hands!)
No 'bulb out' warning. :happy2:
Not sure they're goers as DRL alternatives though!
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I've ordered the ones on the 1st post, and they have been dispatched already so should have them today/tomorrow, so will report back... Hope they last...
These are bringing up warning lights on my car!!!! Gutted cos the look the biz!
Any links to the type of resistor to use?
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These are bringing up warning lights on my car!!!! Gutted cos the look the biz!
Any links to the type of resistor to use?
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I have used 25ohm resistors rated to 25w :happy2:
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I think. Might get myself a pair of these
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I think. Might get myself a pair of these
Holy thread revival Batman!! :surprised: :surprised:
That's got to be some record at nearly 4 years :grin: :grin: