MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 10:11:02 pm

Title: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 10:11:02 pm
Hi chaps(esses)

Ive been having a problem of late where the driver door wont open with the remote central locking. I have to put the key in to unlock it.

Any ideas? New door lock unit needed?

Thanks
Rich
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Post by: jason_rmh on August 27, 2013, 10:20:09 pm
Does anything else on the door work? Windows? Mirror adjustment? Buttons illuminate?
Could be a broken wire leading from car to door or maybe a faulty door controller.

I fixed my brothers and it was a broken wire behind the rubber sheath between car and door.
Jas
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Post by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 10:23:00 pm
Does anything else on the door work? Windows? Mirror adjustment? Buttons illuminate?
Could be a broken wire leading from car to door or maybe a faulty door controller.

I fixed my brothers and it was a broken wire behind the rubber sheath between car and door.
Jas

Everything else works fine.  :happy2:
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Post by: jason_rmh on August 27, 2013, 10:25:37 pm
Other doors unlock from the remote locking OK?
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Post by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 10:27:22 pm
Other doors unlock from the remote locking OK?

yes... only drivers door effected

Also when i unlock it with the fob, if i open the px door and try and open the driver door, i cant. Its like its not lifting the dead lock or something!
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: doylebros on August 27, 2013, 10:33:14 pm
Should show in a scan  -  have you noticed if the door LED flashing rate has changed?
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 10:34:19 pm
Should show in a scan  -  have you noticed if the door LED flashing rate has changed?

Will scan it tomorrow... not notice anything with the LED other then when i got the door open it flashed a lot. ( i think)
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: doylebros on August 27, 2013, 10:35:58 pm
If when locking it flashes fast - typically new module required!
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Tortaruga on August 27, 2013, 10:45:40 pm
Almost certainly a new door lock control module. It might go away for a while-mine does it in hot weather so it doesn't happen often. It shows up as an intermittent failure on vcds.
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 10:47:07 pm
Ill check some old scans to see if anything is mentioned.
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 10:48:54 pm
2 Faults Found:
00096 - Drivers Door Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V161)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent


Thats from an old log... funny how its not caused any problems until recently

How much is a new module... and is it easy to fit?
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Tortaruga on August 27, 2013, 11:15:02 pm
They're about £150.

There is a guide in the troubleshooting section which you are supposedly moderating :wink:.
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 11:16:07 pm
They're about £150.

There is a guide in the troubleshooting section which you are supposedly moderating :wink:.


Got a link to it....  :wink:

 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Scottymon on August 27, 2013, 11:20:13 pm
Have you had any other electrical problems?  I think I remember reading you had a new TB fitted (my current problem) only say this because I've had the drivers switches and motor problems, had to swap them out... Does your alarm work? Had to swap that out too and the wiper motor, and the cruise control... Hmm.  

There a big thread on Audizine that seems to suggest a lot of issues are caused by bad wiring/earthing or ECU.
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 27, 2013, 11:21:57 pm
I had the TB issue.. but apart from that no other issues. (apart from an annoyingly crackly radio reception)
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Horatio on August 28, 2013, 08:09:49 am
Let us know how you get on, my passenger o/s needs doing :happy2:
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Matto on August 28, 2013, 08:29:16 am
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52585.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52585.0.html)  :happy2:
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 28, 2013, 08:35:34 am
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52585.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52585.0.html)  :happy2:

I had a horrible feeling it would be a four door skin off jobby!  :scared:
Title: Re: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: torque777 on August 28, 2013, 08:38:58 am
I have two gone ..drivers door and rear passengers door ...but both are working again in the warm weather ...don't mind drivers so much as I can put key in but rear door is a pain as it gets stuck shut completely

sent using my own fingers
Title: Re: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Matto on August 28, 2013, 08:57:15 am
I have two gone ..drivers door and rear passengers door ...but both are working again in the warm weather ...don't mind drivers so much as I can put key in but rear door is a pain as it gets stuck shut completely

sent using my own fingers

I would get it sorted while you can still get the door off. Virtually impossible to do without butchering the door skin if the door stops shut. Ask Stealthwolf. He had a nightmare with his.
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Tortaruga on August 28, 2013, 09:20:58 am
^^^Sage advice.

I got a new module on ebay for £50 so it's worth a look. There are plenty of second hand ones, but it wouldn't be worth risking all the effort of changing one out only to put another knackered one in.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: torque777 on August 28, 2013, 11:50:08 am
I have two gone ..drivers door and rear passengers door ...but both are working again in the warm weather ...don't mind drivers so much as I can put key in but rear door is a pain as it gets stuck shut completely

sent using my own fingers

I would get it sorted while you can still get the door off. Virtually impossible to do without butchering the door skin if the door stops shut. Ask Stealthwolf. He had a nightmare with his.
Yeh was worried about this ...new rear one £90 tps

sent using my own fingers
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Hedge on August 28, 2013, 11:56:07 am
Had one done on my .:R32 under warranty. Yes it's a door skin off job but the dealers turned it around fairly swiftly.
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 28, 2013, 12:09:45 pm
Im just glad its not the rear door playing up... makes dogging a bit of a pain... 
Title: Re: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: torque777 on August 28, 2013, 12:40:37 pm
Lmao

sent using my own fingers
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Hedge on August 28, 2013, 01:25:28 pm
Im just glad its not the rear door playing up... makes dogging a bit of a pain... 

Trouble with the back doors Sir? Try the front entrance for a change.  :surprised:
Title: Re: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: vRSAlex on August 28, 2013, 06:12:51 pm
I have two gone ..drivers door and rear passengers door ...but both are working again in the warm weather ...don't mind drivers so much as I can put key in but rear door is a pain as it gets stuck shut completely

sent using my own fingers

I would get it sorted while you can still get the door off. Virtually impossible to do without butchering the door skin if the door stops shut. Ask Stealthwolf. He had a nightmare with his.

His rear door had failed to open for around 6 months.  Went for an MOT the morning it came to me to fix it and when in for MOT it just opened.  Swapped the bugger over and all was well.  Month later the front passenger side was playing up!

Nice straightforward job to do.
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: chowgar on August 29, 2013, 09:25:52 pm
had to replace mine rich on the passenger door.... mine was a pain in that ass to do... got a locking mech of ebay for £30 or so...
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on August 29, 2013, 11:32:05 pm
had to replace mine rich on the passenger door.... mine was a pain in that ass to do... got a locking mech of ebay for £30 or so...

Great.... will sort it out eventually.  :fighting:
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: stealthwolf on August 30, 2013, 01:17:09 am
As alex has said, I've had two locks play up. The second one was easy, was still in the intermittent phase and I was on the phone to alex less than 24 hours after it started playing up. The first one was a PITA, affected the rear driver's side door. It hacked me off to the point where I told Alex I was ready for him to cut through the door skin. By a miraculous fate, it sorted itself out (maybe the car heard me?).
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Marc-5-GTI on September 03, 2013, 11:31:31 pm
I have this problem :( I just click open a few times and it soon gets the message that I want in... I don't wanna fork up :'(
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on September 04, 2013, 12:17:18 am
Bizzarly started working again now...  :confused:
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Hedge on September 04, 2013, 07:59:38 am
Burn it!  :P
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: stealthwolf on September 04, 2013, 08:59:47 am
Get it sorted whilst it's working. Complete PITA if it's permanently screwed up.
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: Tortaruga on September 04, 2013, 10:08:45 am
Complete PITA if it's permanently screwed up.
It's not when it's the drivers door as you can use the key blade. Mine was playing up during the hot spell, but is back to normal again.

'Often copied-never equalled'. :grin:
Title: Re: Random drive door lock issue
Post by: rich83 on September 04, 2013, 10:15:42 am
Burn it!  :P

 :P