MK5 Golf GTI
General => Testing and Forum Suggestion Box => Topic started by: Dave J on August 30, 2013, 10:08:14 pm
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Hello to all,
I really like this forum - doesn't seem to have all the script errors that ukmkivs.net was constantly throwing up (which has meant I haven't been on there for about 10 months) despite still wanting to post about my mkiv experiences, and learn about anything in the mkv section.
Just a suggestion with a load of the recent influx of spammers with one word / line posts over a short period of time on here - could you please restrict the members rides area in a way to stop people from spamming this section, as this ruins the best part of the forum.
Could we lock this section down to access with those of a minimum of 100 posts or more?
I will guess the answer will be "No, it isn't possible", but I have to suggest it!!
Cheers,
Dave
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The easiest way to stop it would be to have something like 150 posts before you can access the for sale section. That way the section would be used as we planned it, ie for regular members of this community, but the flip side of that would be less sales and our members wouldn't go for it i don't think.
We are not getting anymore spammers than usual, i have just decided to stop removing the posts now. One because i cant be arsed doing it when some of our members actively help the guys desperate to access the for sale section by helping them and telling them they need more posts get typing. And secondly if you are selling or buying something on here and it is from someone with 25 posts and you dont check their previous posts then you cant complain when it goes wrong. :rolleye:
There is practically nothing the forum/admin can do to help someone who has been ripped off and sadly this happens quite often.
I will have a word with SteveP and Greeners and see if we can improve things. :happy2:
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Depends if there genuine.
I saw a car for sale in the classifieds. I didn't want to spam the forum so started my own thread and spammed that. This got deleted
The fir sale ad had no contact details. So either you need new rules there to inc contact details.
Or
Do what other forums do and have a spam thread for new users.
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The whole point of the minimum posts is so that members here get to know the new people and so that the new people get to introduce themselves, their cars and their modifying addiction!! :confused:
If the minimum post count was designed to be overcome by simply spamming up a thread (whether designed for spamming or not!) then it's pointless!!! :scared:
Do what regular members on here do, contribute helpfully. Ask questions, give opinions on mods/photos/problems/etc and make yourself known within the forum.
For example:-
You want to buy a car, a mk5 Golf GTI to be precise. So you sign up on here, introduce yourself as a hopeful soon-to-be owner, ask around for things to look for when viewing a Golf for sale (also using the search function!!). View member rides and see what other people have done to their cars, get your own ideas for what you'd like to do to your car, or what extra's or must-haves you'd like to buy a golf with. It isn't difficult to contribute meaningfully with TEN posts! :fighting2:
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I agree, although being a relative noob here I do think its a good thing to have a limit on posts before you can use the for sale section? Only suggestion would be to make it more clear to new members? I don't know if I completely missed the ball or something but I had no idea what I had to do to be able to post on the fs section when I joined, until someone pointed me in the right direction! :smiley:
And as for a spamming section, I don't think that's a good idea at all.. If new members need to get there post count up the least they can do is put up a New member post and then say hello to some other new members?
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I have nearly 12,000 posts on UK-MKIVS in 2 and a half years - So I'm basically one of the most active members on there) and I can tell you this forum has more downtime and timeouts than uk-mkivs.
The joke there is that uk-mkivs.net don't accept donations (even though I want to give) and yet here they are almost always asking for a money.
I've not had the typical error for about a month now. I would get it once a week normally - which is a good few hundred posts knowing me!
UK-mkivs are also moving to IPB forum very soon. I was part of the testing with a few other active members and the new site is much, much better and will be more reliable.
Don't get me wrong I like this forum but I will defend uk-mkivs as it always seems the butt of all jokes
On the subject of spammers and what not 10 posts is not enough in my opinion. Edition employ a 200 post limit and they have much stricter rules in the classifieds forum.
I think it could be good to have some of their rules put here as well.
If as moderators you cannot be bothered to remove spam posts or keep on top of it then consider getting more moderators? There are plenty of active people on this forum, myself, RizzlePizzle80-thrizzle and Hurdy for example (there are many others no doubt) who would happily offer a helping hand.
Ultimately it's a double edged sword when you have such a low post count. People spam it in a matter of minutes.
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Easy way to fix this in one very simple move.
Remove the FS section completely. :signLOL:
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That's a terrible idea, The FS section is better than ebay imo!
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That's a terrible idea, The FS section is better than ebay imo!
x2 Terrible idea. I don't know of anybody who has had a bad experience using classifieds, nor have I had any myself.
I'm pretty sure the SEAT Cupra net forum lost many many members after the for sale section disappeared. :-/
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Personally, I would make the classifieds hidden until you reached both a post count AND a time limit. I've been on forums where this has been the case. Waiting say two months and 50 posts isn't difficult. But as above, they need to be meaningful posts.
As I and others have said countless times before, this isn't a website for buying/selling stuff like Amazon or ebay. It's designed to allow like minded people to chat about cars and maybe other things. If you can't be bothered to do that, are you really somebody who: 1. Can be trusted? And 2. Should be around here?
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Personally, I would make the classifieds hidden until you reached both a post count AND a time limit. I've been on forums where this has been the case. Waiting say two months and 50 posts isn't difficult. But as above, they need to be meaningful posts.
As I and others have said countless times before, this isn't a website for buying/selling stuff like Amazon or ebay. It's designed to allow like minded people to chat about cars and maybe other things. If you can't be bothered to do that, are you really somebody who: 1. Can be trusted? And 2. Should be around here?
Better idea.
Also make all listing a requirement of "Picture with signed piece of paper and date" :happy2:
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From my point of view though.
I wanted to get intouch with someone selling there car.
Had there been strict selling rules displace stating either s contact number or email address I'd not of needed to join. Or make ten meaningless posts before I could pm him
I agree a bigger limit of post should be needed to actually sell in the classified section but not to pm a person.
Scn did lose slot of people too.
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I wanted to get intouch with someone selling there car.
Had there been strict selling rules displace stating either s contact number or email address I'd not of needed to join. Or make ten meaningless posts before I could pm him
I refer you to my above comments. It doesn't much effort to make 10 meaningful posts. You just cannot be arsed with it. If you could not see the classified, you would not have joined and then spam posted.
I speak the following for myself only: I'm hacked off at the number of people who register to sell/buy and then piss off never to come back again. To those people, why don't you just piss off in the first place?
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I mean it is a hard one, as much as you don't want the forum full of people talking nonsense to get post counts up just to sell or buy stuff.. But equally the more people selling stuff the more bargains to be had for members?
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But equally the more people selling stuff the more bargains to be had for members?
Are you more likely to buy off someone with a 25 post count or with a 2500 post count (all else being equal)?
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Correct, I wouldn't get something posted by a 25 poster but if its the right deal I would be willing to meet in person with cash... So I still think its worth having them post?
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I can tell you this forum has more downtime and timeouts than uk-mkivs.
The joke there is that uk-mkivs.net don't accept donations (even though I want to give) and yet here they are almost always asking for a money.
The money asked for is the basic running costs to keep the forum going so we don't have to use advertisers. You don't have to contribute if you don't want to! no one pesters you for money. :confused:
Don't get me wrong I like this forum but I will defend uk-mkivs as it always seems the butt of all jokes
What are you talking about? know one here is having a go at UK MKIVS on here, you are complaining about problems on here. :stupid:
What people dont realise about this forum is! we dont need new members! we are not trying to sell anything or keep a member total up for sponsors to pay us. People are welcome to join in if they want to share info or just use the forum for their own gains!, thats fine but it makes no difference if they stay or go.
From day one we have had people wanting the forum to be different and change to suit them. Yes it can be improved in lots of ways but unfortunately it is what it is and you have to accept thats the way it is or vote with your feet and find somewhere that better suits your needs. That is not being arsey i am just stating how it is. If loads of our members left tomorrow it would not make any difference to the site ( except it would run faster at peak times :laugh: ).
The site was set up originally because the Mk5 section on another forum grew to big and arguments sprouted up on a daily basis. This site was simply for people with Mk5 GTI's to swap info and help each other out free from sponsors influence. and although it has grown massively from then, nothing has changed in terms of what we have wanted to provide.
You need to think of this place as a family member rather than a family home. It is what it is. :drinking:
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I would also like to add. We probably are not running the forum too well at the moment . SteveP hardly come on at all, he is very busy with his career and will be for quite sometime yet. Greeners is also very busy with his business. I sold my GTI over two years ago now and don't have any interest in the MK 5 platform at the moment. This makes it very hard to keep coming on here and keep it going how we want and with the passion it deserves. It is not fair on you guys that the main moderator doesn't have the interest and passion required. We recognise this is a problem and it is being worked on as we speak i am going to take a step back but not gone completely (Unlucky Saint Steve :wink:).
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But equally the more people selling stuff the more bargains to be had for members?
Are you more likely to buy off someone with a 25 post count or with a 2500 post count (all else being equal)?
I'd buy it from the person who has the best condition item at the same price and whom is closest.
If you are picking an item up it doesn't matter how many posts you have.
You should also know by now that post count doesn't indicate a level of trustworthyness..
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I'd buy it from the person who has the best condition item at the same price and whom is closest.
If you are picking an item up it doesn't matter how many posts you have.
You should also know by now that post count doesn't indicate a level of trustworthyness..
1. I did state all else being equal - ie everything in terms of price, condition, location - everything.
2. Not everyone has the ability to pick up items.
3. I agree that post count isn't an accurate indicator of trustworthiness, but I'm more likely to buy something from the likes of Greeners, Hedge or Richwig than I am from, say, you.
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Don't buy from Hedge.. he's proper dodgy... :grin:
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Personally, I would make the classifieds hidden until you reached both a post count AND a time limit. I've been on forums where this has been the case. Waiting say two months and 50 posts isn't difficult. But as above, they need to be meaningful posts.
As I and others have said countless times before, this isn't a website for buying/selling stuff like Amazon or ebay. It's designed to allow like minded people to chat about cars and maybe other things. If you can't be bothered to do that, are you really somebody who: 1. Can be trusted? And 2. Should be around here?
Really like that idea.
I wanted to get intouch with someone selling there car.
Had there been strict selling rules displace stating either s contact number or email address I'd not of needed to join. Or make ten meaningless posts before I could pm him
I refer you to my above comments. It doesn't much effort to make 10 meaningful posts. You just cannot be arsed with it. If you could not see the classified, you would not have joined and then spam posted.
I speak the following for myself only: I'm hacked off at the number of people who register to sell/buy and then piss off never to come back again. To those people, why don't you just piss off in the first place?
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Also make all listing a requirement of "Picture with signed piece of paper and date" :happy2:
Always thought this should mandatory, takes no effort and would stop the "I don't really have this item, I'm just taking the piss and ripping you off" peeps. Been a few off those on here lately.
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Don't buy from Hedge.. he's proper dodgy... :grin:
Lovely. :happy2:
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Super friendly forum lol.
Making 10 posts isn't hard your correct. It's still bloody spam just a better version of it.
The attitudes of some of you stink Tbh I think I'll leave you all to it. You don't know me or the input I could bring to the forum
If you knew me from ukmivs and various other forums perhaps you'd be less judgemental. Don't tar everyone with the same brush. It's your crap classified rules that cause the problems lol
For the record. I found the car for sale with Google images. Not trawling forums.
Jake
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Tbf you've barely got over 10 posts and you've already been a whinge bag, I don't think anyone will miss you mate :booty:
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To have a thread dedicated to spamming just so you can get your post count up is daft; what's the point of having a min number of posts in the first place?
Should be based on how long you've been a member, or at the very least add some signal rather than a bunch of noise. :happy2:
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Personally, I would make the classifieds hidden until you reached both a post count AND a time limit. I've been on forums where this has been the case. Waiting say two months and 50 posts isn't difficult. But as above, they need to be meaningful posts.
As I and others have said countless times before, this isn't a website for buying/selling stuff like Amazon or ebay. It's designed to allow like minded people to chat about cars and maybe other things. If you can't be bothered to do that, are you really somebody who: 1. Can be trusted? And 2. Should be around here?
Better idea.
Also make all listing a requirement of "Picture with signed piece of paper and date" :happy2:
Totally agree with Rich. On other forums, ie uk-mkivs when you are eligible you have to post your for sale item with photos with forum name and date on a card. Was quite suprised that this does not apply on here, you dont even have to post a picture.
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^^^^ Spot on. :happy2:
Wouldn't take long for the mods to check that this is being done, if not delete the post and suspend the member. Would soon stop it from happening.
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Wow I didn't know what spamming meant i never bothered to look up what it meant ,won't affect me personally though , anyway suppose we have every member post their crb/ basic disclosure check results before they can access the fs section
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A criminal record check to access the FS section? That's even worse than the spammers board :confused:
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Wow I didn't know what spamming meant i never bothered to look up what it meant ,won't affect me personally though , anyway suppose we have every member post their crb/ basic disclosure check results before they can access the fs section
Im not sure how that would work legally as the forum would therefore be holding peoples personal information.
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Wow I didn't know what spamming meant i never bothered to look up what it meant ,won't affect me personally though , anyway suppose we have every member post their crb/ basic disclosure check results before they can access the fs section
Im not sure how that would work legally as the forum would therefore be holding peoples personal information.
I'm with Richwig on this one. Although I am all for a safer environment for us all, this would be IMHO unworkable! :surprised:
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A CRB check is:
1. over the top
2. costly (think £60?)
3. wouldn't necessary stop stuff happening - the scammer might have never been caught before.
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I quoted that with sarcasm to point out that no matter the precautions employed (going over the top) and I quote
3. wouldn't necessary stop stuff happening
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You know what's worse?
People posting up threads of things for sale without any pictures of the items.
That is both really annoying and I think poor practise ... No picture, no for sale thread?
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You know what's worse?
People posting up threads of things for sale without any pictures of the items.
That is both really annoying and I think poor practise ... No picture, no for sale thread?
Thats what I would and have suggested
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You know what's worse?
People posting up threads of things for sale without any pictures of the items.
That is both really annoying and I think poor practise ... No picture, no for sale thread?
Totally agree. I don't know anyone who'd go and buy something without seeing it first.
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In light of this and other similar threads my approach is to acting like a prefect -scrutinising and watching other people's conduct on here which I shouldn't be doing but I can't help it now