MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Veee-dubber on September 02, 2013, 06:46:53 pm
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Evening all, Ive just purchased my new wheels & having just read a similar thread I'm concerned that I shouldnt have gone for the fitment I have.
I've gone for some deep dish alloys in staggered fitment as follows:
5x112
8.5J Fronts
9.5J Rears
ET 35
CB 72.6
Is the offset gonna cause me massive issues in terms of rubbing etc?
:stupid:
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Yeah at et35 with those widths you're gonna struggle imo...
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Which wheels are they?
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****ing hell! Could scream right now!
Anything I can do about it?
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Does anyone actually know the perfect offsets/widths for the mk5 without causing any arch problems and not needing to start playing with camber?
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Pull your archs
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****ing hell! Could scream right now!
Anything I can do about it?
Could a engineering company not skim the rears which in theory would increase the offset?
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^ guessing thats easy enough, think rolling them will suffice?
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Does anyone actually know the perfect offsets/widths for the mk5 without causing any arch problems and not needing to start playing with camber?
8s all round is the most conservative
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^ guessing thats easy enough, think rolling them will suffice?
Depends on how low you are but probably not!
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Hhhmmmm... anyone know what a mans gotta do?
:scared: :scared: :scared:
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Pull your archs
And then some more!
IIRC the standard 18" Monza's are 7.5" ET51. Quick check shows you'll have 44.4 mm poke over standard with those 9.5" ET35. :laugh:
Me thinks a touch of camber.........
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2F80bb469d6e37ecf99fd9f1376a98767c_zps868eee92.jpg&hash=1073e1b74080ff2ef888cb90cb7a9ec800117d34)
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Cant you just return the wheels?
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Me thinks a touch of camber.........
A touch? that sounds remotely positive :wink:
I have no idea at all how camber works, all I know is it looks pretty cool.
Anyone able to give me an idiots guide of whats needed?
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Youll need a spanner and full alignment afterwards. Never done it, thought about it on my last Mk5 but never bought the wheels so never needed to tuck them under/in.
Have a read of this thread and also the thread linked within it......
~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5495350-How-to-adjust-rear-camber-on-MKVI)
And VW Manual on "How to" adjust it (which is obvious). :wink:
~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://volkswagen.workshop-manuals.com/golf-mk5/index.php?id=338)
This is the little bugger.....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2Fd808c5fac84466a7a1d76f0908b65c49_zps2759672a.jpg&hash=6356267de327f392ba03cf2fd1dc30babaceec94)
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Bloody Nora thats like rocket science to me!
So even if I roll the arches, & stretch my tyres that still wont do?
Am I better off just trying to send them back?
Someone help, I might cry :(
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I would send back to save all the hassles.
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I would send back to save all the hassles.
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Me too
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I would send back to save all the hassles.
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Me too
Multiples
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X4
If your not into "scene" wheels then relace them with max 8.5" ET44. also 215-225 wide tyres will help against rubbing as apposed to the usual 240-255 on 8.5" wheels.
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No No No! Get some balls and camber it!
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fronts will fit like mercedes alphards with a 205/35
backs will poke 5mm more than mercedes alphards/3sdms with a 215/35
if thats too much stretch for you then try and get the backs of the wheels shaved down to around et40 and they will fit like 3sdms :happy2:
then you can fit 215/225 /40
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I have the balls to make this work if it's do-able? my question is, is it?
Im happy to roll arches & run stretch tyres etc
Is running this fitment doable?
I cant roll round with 5cm of poke surely? lol
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My rims MAY be available in ET45, same setup... 8.5 fronts and 9.5 rears... would that work peoples?
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et 45 is a much easier fitment to run defo go for 45 if you can!
you going to tell us what they are?
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9.5 et45 might catch on the inside no?
Why do you want wider rear wheels anyway.. It will look crap. On an m3 or a 911 fair enough but this is a golf!
8j et50 on mine and i think thats about the perfect fitment on a golf.
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et 45 is a much easier fitment to run defo go for 45 if you can!
you going to tell us what they are?
Nooope :wink:
Back to the seller it is then, hope he helps!! :happy2:
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9.5 et45 might catch on the inside no?
Why do you want wider rear wheels anyway.. It will look crap. On an m3 or a 911 fair enough but this is a golf!
8j et50 on mine and i think thats about the perfect fitment on a golf.
So its just the width that's the issue then? I.e if I got rid of the two wider wheels and stuck with et 35 8.5J all round that would work?
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it would work.. but its not the best look on a golf IMO.
I have 8.5j et35 on my van and tried them on the golf and they poke out a bit too much IMO
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How low are you?
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Not low, standard height atm, car is completely standard currently but will be lowered of course.
Still in a massive dilemma as to what to do with these wheels, they are currently sat boxed up in my hallway, cant even open them to look at them in case I have to send them back :(
:'(
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Not low, standard height atm, car is completely standard currently but will be lowered of course.
Still in a massive dilemma as to what to do with these wheels, they are currently sat boxed up in my hallway, cant even open them to look at them in case I have to send them back :(
:'(
unless you into the vdub ed38 scene and plan to slam the car and have it at shows etc, i really really would not bother with wider rears. IMO it looks s*** and will not do anything for the dynamics of the car. Why did you want wider rears in the first place?
on an unlowered car they will probably fit (as will 8.5j et35) all round but will just look terrible (again IMO)
I'd send them back and source some 8j et50 or similar.
Look at my build thread to see how mine sit...
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i have et 35's on fk coilovers.
I ended up getting 215 35 18's, even will arch mod, it wasn't enough.
The new tyres (falken fk452) are not as harsh a ride as i feared.
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just to clarify the above, after the tyre change, no further probs.
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I wouldn't go wider than 8" with 225/40R18 tyres with ET45 on front if lowering
I wouldn't go wider than 8" with 225/40R18 tyres with ET38 on Rear if lowering
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You can go much further than that Dom.
You can run 9" et 41 quite happily with 215/35 tyres , every Bentley wheel is run like this. Often with little to no rubbing.
I wouldn't go higher (having done it...) than that, or equivalent around 8.5 et 40 front with a 205/40 or a 215/35 tyre.
At the rear you can go much wider and lower offset, plus you also have factory adjustable camber up to 4 degrees.
You can run a 9.5 et 35 with a 225/40 quite happily without rubbing at all.
9.5 et45 might catch on the inside no?
Why do you want wider rear wheels anyway.. It will look crap. On an m3 or a 911 fair enough but this is a golf!
8j et50 on mine and i think thats about the perfect fitment on a golf.
Might look crap to you, but to other people the wider rear looks much more purposeful.
I ran et 56 front et 36 rear on a 7.5 for 2 years on my old TDI and it looked far better and handled very well, if anything it was more stable on the back end due to the wider track.
9.5 et 45 is fine on the rear.
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So, I too am about to order some wheels but really can't get my head around offsets!!!!
Would I be ok with 8x19 et 40 on the front and 9x19 et 40 on the rear.
I know everyone has different opinions but I want some that fill the arches nicely without catching, and I really don't want to be rolling them either.
TIA
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i have et 35's on fk coilovers.
I ended up getting 215 35 18's, even will arch mod, it wasn't enough.
The new tyres (falken fk452) are not as harsh a ride as i feared.
What width were you running mate?
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i had rotiform blqs 19x8.5 with a 35 offset 215/35/r19
I'm running air and all I did was rolled my archers.
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I'm running the same spec wheels as this!
Fronts 18x8.5 et 35 and rears 9.5 et 35
I havnt had to roll my arches atall, I just added some camber as I'm on air and wanted to dial the fitment!
When you lower it, depending if your going with coilovers, the lower you go the rears start to camber themselves
But if the natural camber isn't enough, it's really simple to camber them! If you can't do it, a garage can do it in no time for a pretty low cost :)
Also I'm running 205/40/18 and 215/40/18 :)
Hope this helps
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I'm running the same spec wheels as this!
Fronts 18x8.5 et 35 and rears 9.5 et 35
I havnt had to roll my arches atall, I just added some camber as I'm on air and wanted to dial the fitment!
When you lower it, depending if your going with coilovers, the lower you go the rears start to camber themselves
But if the natural camber isn't enough, it's really simple to camber them! If you can't do it, a garage can do it in no time for a pretty low cost :)
Also I'm running 205/40/18 and 215/40/18 :)
Hope this helps
THANKS BUD! :star:
Couldnt trouble you for a pic could I?
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That fitment and size you have nothing to worry about have seen on a mk5 et 20 wheels on a 9.5 rear and only just needed rolling you should be sitting with pretty good fitment with those wheels.... If you like the VDUB ( hate that fraise) look.
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Did some googling...
Merc alphards come in at that fitment and size this is how they sit with no spacers..
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.speedhunters.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F03%2FDubshed_PMCG-185.jpg&hash=5840eacbb4f7e671312833f003d2b00e28b3d200)
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alphards are 9.5 et40 so will tuck 5mm more than the super secret wheels he wont tell anybody about.
If your prepared to use max camber then you'll have no problems with the wheels :happy2:
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Go low and will be fine.
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the lower the better
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Does anyone actually know the perfect offsets/widths for the mk5 without causing any arch problems and not needing to start playing with camber?
For me I always go for....
8" wide wheels with ET 44/45
Perfect. Even when lowered :happy2:
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8.5/9 all at et20 flush!
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There's a big difference between 8.5 and 9s at ET20..
Neither of which will fit on the front without a lot of work. Rears would need max camber and huge stretch.
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going lower that et38 on 8j will need 215/35/40 IMO
as I said before, on et35 on 225/40/18 8j even with arch mod, caused me no end of trouble when on fk coilovers. Looks great and no probs since changing the tyres, my coilovers r as low as I can go, and the ride is nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be.
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I have Et44 18x8.5 and even with 215/35 it rubs on the front arches if I go low enough.. having put new arches on I run the car higher. You need to get them rolled once you approach this sort of level to be honest.
8j et 35 on 225/40 would never work when lowered :grin: this is where people need to check tyre sizes and clearances first!
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I ran (and soon will have another set) RS dish rims -
Front: 8.5J 18" ET40 (no spacers) 215/35 with stretch
Rear: 9.5J 18" ET35 (5mm spacers) 225/40 with stretch
Backs ran fine and spacers saved the shocks being hit. I also had about 2/2.5% camber to help aswell. Fronts didn't really rub although depended on low you go and I was proper low then.....until I slammed into a few corners and my arches buckled slightly.
Atm, i've got 8J all round with ET42. I'm low, but not too much, and need to roll my arches just a tad to ensure my hard cornering doesn't rub further. They don't sit 100% flush but clearly I can't do what I want to do if they are flush.