MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: woahnowboys on September 08, 2013, 11:22:27 am
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A few weeks ago, I created a thread in the wanted section for some 50mm strut coilovers.
I only received one reply from it, from a 'wheelygood', offering some APs.
The price and item condition etc. seemed realistic, not too good to be true or anything..
He told me he didn't have PayPal, so I'd have to pay via debit card.
I obviously felt pretty dodgy when he'd said this, but since this was the only set I could find, I didn't really have much choice..
He allegedly posted them via courier on the 30th of August, last Friday.
I started getting concerned when they hadn't arrived after 3/4 days, since couriers are usually quite quick.
I checked the couriers website on the 7th, to find that the max. estimated time of delivery was 5 days, and it was already passed that.
When I asked wheelygood for a tracking number so I could find out what was going on, he immediately turned to swearing and name-calling, with excuses that he was working away all week.
I then threatened him with the police, saying that I had the pm thread, his name, bank details, etc.
He replied with:-
"go to the police see if i care, and i can guarentee you do not have my name, address or bank details"
Can anyone help? I'm a student earning next to nothing, and spent my summer holidays earning the money for those coilovers :sad1:
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It makes me mad when these things occur in a forum community setting between members. :fighting:
Who did you pay when using your debit card? As you know you get no legal protection for purchases using one vs a credit card.
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It makes me mad when these things occur in a forum community setting between members. :fighting:
Who did you pay when using your debit card? As you know you get no legal protection for purchases using one vs a credit card.
Yeah, it sucks that people like this exist, especially in the VW community.
I paid a "T Whelan", which I thought at the time was him..
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Did you pay over the phone (suggesting he has a business account) or by a bank transfer?
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Did you pay over the phone (suggesting he has a business account) or by a bank transfer?
Via bank transfer. The interesting thing is that I checked his sort code, to find that it's for a branch based in Birmingham, whereas he told me he was located in Liverpool..
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You have paid in the worst way possible . This can be reported to the Police/Action Fraud and then there will be a wait . The Police will be able to ascertain who runs the bank account you paid the money to , this may not reveal an actual person though as many bank accounts exist that were opened with fake details . These accounts are rife and the banking authorities fails big time on their checks . Good Luck
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Did you pay over the phone (suggesting he has a business account) or by a bank transfer?
Via bank transfer. The interesting thing is that I checked his sort code, to find that it's for a branch based in Birmingham, whereas he told me he was located in Liverpool..
Thousands of Bank Accounts are based in different locations to the Holders actual address , You open an account in Bournmouth and move to sheffield , why would you change your branch ? Also Online accounts are based at a location and the user is based in another .
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Thousands of Bank Accounts are based in different locations to the Holders actual address , You open an account in Bournmouth and move to sheffield , why would you change your branch ? Also Online accounts are based at a location and the user is based in another .
I know that there are possible legitimate reasons for a distant branch, but I thought I'd add, as it fuels the idea of a fake account.
You have paid in the worst way possible . This can be reported to the Police/Action Fraud and then there will be a wait . The Police will be able to ascertain who runs the bank account you paid the money to , this may not reveal an actual person though as many bank accounts exist that were opened with fake details . These accounts are rife and the banking authorities fails big time on their checks . Good Luck
I will be going to the police, and hopefully I'll be able to get my money back, but at very least this thread may stop someone falling into the same trap.. Provided anyone else is stupid enough. :(
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Check out the sellers post history and makes no real constructive posts , a bit about football and selling stuff ! Looks IFFY to me straight away . Only a recent forum member too . His IP address will assist to in tracing them and the Forum will be able to pass this to Police too . Trouble is many scammers use mobiles and ipads and hook up at Costa Coffee wifi etc .
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Thousands of Bank Accounts are based in different locations to the Holders actual address , You open an account in Bournmouth and move to sheffield , why would you change your branch ? Also Online accounts are based at a location and the user is based in another .
I know that there are possible legitimate reasons for a distant branch, but I thought I'd add, as it fuels the idea of a fake account.
You have paid in the worst way possible . This can be reported to the Police/Action Fraud and then there will be a wait . The Police will be able to ascertain who runs the bank account you paid the money to , this may not reveal an actual person though as many bank accounts exist that were opened with fake details . These accounts are rife and the banking authorities fails big time on their checks . Good Luck
I will be going to the police, and hopefully I'll be able to get my money back, but at very least this thread may stop someone falling into the same trap.. Provided anyone else is stupid enough. :(
Well i have five bank accounts (Four santander 123 accounts) and none of them are in the same location as i live , I would imagine the majority of accounts are not at a location where the Account holder lives and is no evidence at all of something dodgy going on . Generally only businesses have their banks where they are based due to paying in money etc
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Well i have five bank accounts (Four santander 123 accounts) and none of them are in the same location as i live , I would imagine the majority of accounts are not at a location where the Account holder lives and is no evidence at all of something dodgy going on . Generally only businesses have their banks where they are based due to paying in money etc
Yeah, I know it's not really evidence of anything, I was just thinking that maybe he actually lives in Birmingham, but told me Liverpool, to try and sort of cover his tracks. But yeah, like you said, it's not necessarily anything to go by.
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This seems to bean ever increasing problem on the board. I keep hearing of this much more frequently. From now on any purchase if its not in person is going to go through pay-pal with the added charge for protection. No consolation but do the "sellers" get banned from the forum when they do not send the goods out?
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Can't you do chargeback on your debit card. Contact your bank and ask for details...
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A few weeks ago, I created a thread in the wanted section for some 50mm strut coilovers.
I only received one reply from it, from a 'wheelygood', offering some APs.
The price and item condition etc. seemed realistic, not too good to be true or anything..
He told me he didn't have PayPal, so I'd have to pay via debit card.
I obviously felt pretty dodgy when he'd said this, but since this was the only set I could find, I didn't really have much choice..
He allegedly posted them via courier on the 30th of August, last Friday.
I started getting concerned when they hadn't arrived after 3/4 days, since couriers are usually quite quick.
I checked the couriers website on the 7th, to find that the max. estimated time of delivery was 5 days, and it was already passed that.
When I asked wheelygood for a tracking number so I could find out what was going on, he immediately turned to swearing and name-calling, with excuses that he was working away all week.
I then threatened him with the police, saying that I had the pm thread, his name, bank details, etc.
He replied with:-
"go to the police see if i care, and i can guarentee you do not have my name, address or bank details"
Can anyone help? I'm a student earning next to nothing, and spent my summer holidays earning the money for those coilovers :sad1:
Why did you via the muppet via Bank Transfer. Really feel for you fella. :sad1:
I've PM'd him and told him about this thread and asked him to respond, let's see if he gives any excuses reasons. You never know, there might be a genuine issue but it does sound VERY dodgy.
I know you don't want to hear this but don't but anything unless you know them, they are a trusted seller/member with a long history on the forum OR without at least a picture with their user name and date written next to it and also its Paypal only. Pay the fees, its worth it. If a seller won't agree, walk away.
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I am sure he would have not done it for a "Western Union" Transfer , but with every "Private" internet purchase you take a risk . I have seen hundreds of examples of this . Treat every purchase as if it is dodgy is the best way forward .
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I was after a part and he mailed me saying his mate had what i wanted.
he said i should give him my email address so his mate will email me.
I was a bit suspicious and asked for a contact number and never heard from the guy again.
Think you have deffo been taken for a ride unfortunately.
:sad1:
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I'm sorry that you have been subject to this issue.
The same person responded to a wanted post i put up for 18" monza's. They didnt add to the post but instead communicated by pm. I unfortunately do not have the pm's anymore.
They said there were located in Liverpool and had a set they were refurbing currently in primer. If i remember i asked for photos of items and price, didnt hear much more.
Only advise i would give with any purchase sale:
- always ask to see pictures with forum name/date on a card in each. - perhaps this could be made a requirement for all sales
- only pay by paypal or sell via paypal, any genuine purchaser will be happy to pay fees
- never pay by BACS/Chaps bank transfer or paypal gift.
- If the member has not been registered for long check all there other posts, discuss with them about paying paypal etc.. delivery, collection..
I did this recently with regards to the wanted monza's post. Had a reply to the thread by 'Gaz' only been on forum for 3 weeks, but checked all his posts, build thread. Discussed openly that i wanted extra pictures, only to pay via paypal, due to these issues. Couldnt have been better, posted when he said, provided with courier collection details, tracking invoice.
All the best with trying to get it back, take it as a lesson learnt, but dont let it loose trust there are many genuine users on here. :happy2:
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Last posted 2nd august, but was active last night, so may have seen this :happy2:
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It seems it's not the first time he's tried this sort of thing on with members on here then.
To think I was so close to catching a train up to collect.. Probably would've been left wandering Liverpool awaiting a reply. :ashamed:
Last posted 2nd august, but was active last night, so may have seen this :happy2:
I posted this this morning, but I hope he does see.. Although I doubt it'll do much good haha.
I know that most people in the 'scene' have good intentions, a lot of them are even generous enough to give away spare parts and such. :drinking:
but this minority of people who are out solely to rip off others are what ruins everything.
All I wanted was a slammed MK5 :signLOL:
If anyone else has been in contact with this guy about parts, any chance I could get screenshots of some PMs? Just as extra evidence to show that he's legitimately a robbing so-and-so. :signLOL:
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The for sale section does it its rules adjusting, but also members need to exercise a modicum common sense. If someone with a low post count is trying to sell something or messages you about something that they are selling then you should proceed with extreme caution.
DONT pay with debit card, bank transfer, western union or PayPal gift
Its a real shame when this happens, but we need to savvy when it comes to buying online in this way.
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I bet you could gather some info to piece together who this chap is:
Occupation:
my mate bought one which i painted for him in work, look like really good quality
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,61075.msg717697.html#msg717697
Location:
North West
Selling coilovers here:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=255854.0
Here's all his posts on GolfGTIForum.co.uk
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:golfgtiforum.co.uk+wheelygood&safe=off&ei=TIwsUszjHo6g7AbxpICgCA&start=0&sa=N&biw=1627&bih=882
Looks like he's pissing ppl off on the GolfGTIForum and R32oc too:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=255193.10
Can't be hard to find someone who actually knows this guy!!
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Just emailed the golfgtiforum... :happy2:
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Can't be hard to find someone who actually knows this guy!!
unfortunately if anyone does know this guy, i would assume such associates maybe of the same mentality.
My advise is, if your spending your hard earned cash then make the arrangments to meet up to close the deal, more so when your talking about any figure over 100 squids.
Some players on here are "Forum Favorites" and this sort of situation is slim, but you never know....
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Admins will be able to give you his registered email address, this kind of thing used to happen on SCN then they where named and shamed. a thread was started with links to the guys facebook, mobile number, address, twitter, email address etc was posted
They soon stopped doing it
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http://www.r32oc.com/topic/51995-scammer/page__hl__wheelygood
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FFS! Good find Rich... shame, doesn't look like you'll get much joy OP, but definitely report this to the Police, you may get something out of it.
How he hasn't had his head bent I don't know.
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Oh god not him again.... He was doing the rounds when i first got into the SEAT scene in 2007
hes well known all over the car scene
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googled the person. possibly goes by the name of Paul Woodward
Paul Woodward
3 Barnes Road
Widnes
WA8 3LG
bank details
LloydsTSB
Account number: 39841168
Sortcode: 77-51-12
07896718250
This is from April
http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?s=03e98c797bb5ee5ec6a932aa405453d5&t=449722 (http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?s=03e98c797bb5ee5ec6a932aa405453d5&t=449722)
Hope you get your money back but looks doubtful with what others have been through :scared:
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Oh dear, not that wa*ker. :surprised:
Paul Woodward is a right tosser by all accounts.
Needs to be a lot more awareness on here and other forums about buying bits and bobs of complete strangers. Yes, it's a risk and trust Is needed but with some basic rules in place I'm sure most of this sort of stuff can be stopped.
Sorry to the OP. I doubt we will see him again.
He needs banning from here NOW.
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http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=376030
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Can't believe how much stuff has been found on this.
Absolutely unreal that people can get away with this once, let alone numerous times.
Thanks so much for all the information, please keep it coming. :drinking:
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there's a Paul Woodward thread on Edition 38 as well. he seems a right tosser by all accounts. i think he has been done before for fraud and i think there is a named police officer who looks into new cases alleged fraud by him.
as another poor student i sympathise fully with your plight. unfortunately it's unlikely you'll see the money again but this forum is a decent place and everyone i've dealt with has been very decent. my advice is don't risk money you can't afford to lose, and for big purchases collect in person.
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Just reading about him on all the other forums... He's got so much previous for fraud it's untrue... definitely go to the Police and definitely go through the courts, by all accounts you'll get your money back; I'm sure it will take a while, but the more people that do this, the longer his sentences will become. By the sounds of it he's had a few kick in's for his troubles... these scumbags just don't learn. :fighting2:
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Having read through lots of info, having 'googled' his name. He is registered under loads of different names, but uses 'Terri' on the uk-mkivs.net forum, which sounded familiar, as i had a few pm's from him on that site in reply to wanted posts.
Has made me question buying goods from forums again, despite all the genuine folk online. :sad1:
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It makes me mad when these things occur in a forum community setting between members. :fighting:
Who did you pay when using your debit card? As you know you get no legal protection for purchases using one vs a credit card.
you'll have protection through your bank. You paid using a debit card fir goods....you didn't receive these good so your bank should be able to help. Also if you still have his bank details or anything bank related then go to his bank tell them what Happened and they will keep an eye on the account. I no because I work for a bank. Good luck
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Isn't he lovely?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk%2F14d9504a66b0df.jpg&hash=c43b9b5981b6e611469ea743cfc0780aa717dd9c)
It makes me mad when these things occur in a forum community setting between members. :fighting:
Who did you pay when using your debit card? As you know you get no legal protection for purchases using one vs a credit card.
you'll have protection through your bank. You paid using a debit card fir goods....you didn't receive these good so your bank should be able to help. Also if you still have his bank details or anything bank related then go to his bank tell them what Happened and they will keep an eye on the account. I no because I work for a bank. Good luck
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I really really hope you're right.
It's unbelievable how many sites this guy has infected.
passionford.com/forum/general-car-related-discussion/388253-scammer-wa8paint.html
www.clubpolo.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=259076&pid=2161077
www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=44190
www.ukpassats.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=32384
www.rodsnsods.co.uk/forum/stuff-sale/%2A%2A-warning-scammer-%2A%2A-basecoat-cellulose-thinners-42852/page2
www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=598334&page=3
www.106owners.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?186405-Poss-SCAMMER-Pinkbike.
www.migweb.co.uk/forums/car-talk/465877-blaupunkt-headunit-scammer-warning.html
www.ukfiestanetwork.com/index.php?/topic/12919-bad-sellers-and-paul-woodward-scammer-aliases/
www.fiestaturbo.com/forums/warning-scammer-on-the-prowl-on-uk-forums-vt147337/
retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pfsw&action=display&thread=98287&page=1
Read more: http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/112170/headline-scammer-ruins#ixzz2eJxNdfsn
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Having read through lots of info, having 'googled' his name. He is registered under loads of different names, but uses 'Terri' on the uk-mkivs.net forum, which sounded familiar, as i had a few pm's from him on that site in reply to wanted posts.
Has made me question buying goods from forums again, despite all the genuine folk online. :sad1:
sounds like a close call :sad1:
It's ridiculous how many people this guy has ripped off by the looks of it.
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Just a thought, can't Steve P view IP addresses?
Surely the police could trace his location from this? :evilgrin:
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Go on edition 38 and look up that helmet he has scammed people thousands and still doing it
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- always ask to see pictures with forum name/date on a card in each. - perhaps this could be made a requirement for all sales
I agree.. theres a number of other forums where this is a requirement..
Yes its a little bit more hassle for the seller but if they're genuine.. then they shouldnt really worry about it.. its a bit more security for the prospective buyer
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The w*nker is online now.
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Just a thought, can't Steve P view IP addresses?
Surely the police could trace his location from this? :evilgrin:
If this is possible then that'd be great.
Shall I give Steve a PM?
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Just a thought, can't Steve P view IP addresses?
Surely the police could trace his location from this? :evilgrin:
If this is possible then that'd be great.
Shall I give Steve a PM?
He is already known to the police and his address is all over the net :happy2:
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fejhziqcd1%2Fimage.jpg&hash=ef0c5a9be520634103f8a630bd6cfbe5dc446c15)
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Just a thought, can't Steve P view IP addresses?
Surely the police could trace his location from this? :evilgrin:
If this is possible then that'd be great.
Shall I give Steve a PM?
He is already known to the police and his address is all over the net :happy2:
True, but my thoughts are maybe he's moved since. I'd like to get his IP anyway, just to be sure.
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Just a thought, can't Steve P view IP addresses?
Surely the police could trace his location from this? :evilgrin:
If this is possible then that'd be great.
Shall I give Steve a PM?
IP address will only give you the location his computer was linked to . Most scammers like this use Free Wifi etc
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Boils my piss reading things like this. Scum needs knee capping.
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IP address will only give you the location his computer was linked to . Most scammers like this use Free Wifi etc
He'd have to spend a hell of a lot of time in Starbucks to rack up that many scams on their WiFi.. :signLOL:
seriously just want every little bit of evidence on this guy I can possibly get.
I'll PM Steve now.
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Report to police/action fraud. Ensure you copy all his details, that way an previous he has will come up, and potentially will be easier to track/obtain evidence.
I've a friend who works in this area although more high end stuff, see what he thinks. Only problem there is so much low level fraud, that unfortunately there simply isn't the resouces to cope, saying that if he's known and prolififc, it's a countdown til his next arrest.
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WOW...this guy must be desperate to need to go round fleecing people on the internet.
As previously mentioned people need to wise up when it comes to buying goods privately over the internet...
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Report to police/action fraud. Ensure you copy all his details, that way an previous he has will come up, and potentially will be easier to track/obtain evidence.
I've a friend who works in this area although more high end stuff, see what he thinks. Only problem there is so much low level fraud, that unfortunately there simply isn't the resouces to cope, saying that if he's known and prolififc, it's a countdown til his next arrest.
That'd be great, thanks for your help. :happy2:
The amount of people willing to help on here shows that this scumbag is in the small minority.
So glad that this isn't a childish place like VwVortex, where I'd probably just get people throwing memes at me left, right and centre.
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The kid is a complete ass. I met him back in 2008 when I got some Bumpers off him, tried the whole pay in my bank routine. I said na meet or no go. I was lucky. So many people on edition 38 have been scammed. He has been in trouble with the law so do go to old bill about it. Nothing seems to happen so many keyboard warriors out there. His address is public no one been round to my knowledge. It's clear this is a career for him. Hope you get somewhere with it but I am sorry to say I doubt it as no one has yet mate
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This guys online at the moment,
I know what I would be doing If anyone done this to me.
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This guys online at the moment,
I know what I would be doing If anyone done this to me.
His time will come. My friends interested in this haha!
Anyone know his date of birth?
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http://www.ttforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=208709
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This guys online at the moment,
I know what I would be doing If anyone done this to me.
His time will come. My friends interested in this haha!
Anyone know his date of birth?
i believe the Edition 38 Paul Woodward page has all his details including a facebook page
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Anything over 50 quid i insist on picking it up myself only twice have I done PayPal the first transaction were front calipers and the bleed threads were shot second was easy a tried and trusted member on here canbus gateway perfect , also if I am selling stuff i prefer for it to be collected so there's no misunderstanding
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A lot of people in the scene know what Paul Woordward is like... despite plenty of advice about on forums and what not to say only use PayPal as a normal transaction or cash on collect, or paying with a Credit Card - no-one really seems to listen.
Sorry you got scammed but there's nothing that can be done to actually get the money back as such. You paid in a completely terrible way :sad1: And so the banks and authorities are next to certainly NOT going to be able to get your money.
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There should be a pop up everytime you going into the for sale section saying pay by paypal goods/services or cash on collection only.
If you pay by gift or bank transfer you are screwed if it goes wrong and should only do this if you know and trust the person you are sending the money.
People should really be doing research on the member before sending the money to them. It takes 5 minutes to google their user name and email address/mobile number and look at their previous posts to determine whether the are genunie. I don't understand how people can be so stupid to send large sums of money to people like this :stupid:
I'm surprised no one has paid him a vist yet as he has scammed a fair few by the looks of it and his address is all over the net. My mate got scammed via paypal gift and we arranged to pay the guy a visit but, magically the brakes then turned up after 3 weeks of chasing! I hope he eventually scams the wrong person and gets what is coming to him!
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There should be a pop up everytime you going into the for sale section saying pay by paypal goods/services or cash on collection only.
If you pay by gift or bank transfer you are screwed if it goes wrong and should only do this if you know and trust the person you are sending the money.
People should really be doing research on the member before sending the money to them. It takes 5 minutes to google their user name and email address/mobile number and look at their previous posts to determine whether the are genunie.
I'm surprised no one has paid him a vist yet as he has scammed a fair few by the looks of it and his address is all over the net. My mate got scammed via paypal gift and we arranged to pay the guy a visit but, magically the brakes then turned up after 3 weeks of chasing!
I agree.
However, I did google his username first, and found nothing.. Perhaps I should've dug deeper. But he has been using a massive list of usernames across numerous sites, making it harder to link.
And apparently, a guy from Edition38 paid him a visit, and managed to win a following court case.
Out of all of the threads I've read on this guy, a few people have managed to actually get their money back, with some even receiving the parts.
I'll be surprised if he even has the coilovers he mentioned, but I don't see why I can't get my money back if others have succeeded.
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There should be a pop up everytime you going into the for sale section saying pay by paypal goods/services or cash on collection only.
If you pay by gift or bank transfer you are screwed if it goes wrong and should only do this if you know and trust the person you are sending the money.
People should really be doing research on the member before sending the money to them. It takes 5 minutes to google their user name and email address/mobile number and look at their previous posts to determine whether the are genunie.
I'm surprised no one has paid him a vist yet as he has scammed a fair few by the looks of it and his address is all over the net. My mate got scammed via paypal gift and we arranged to pay the guy a visit but, magically the brakes then turned up after 3 weeks of chasing!
I agree.
However, I did google his username first, and found nothing.. Perhaps I should've dug deeper. But he has been using a massive list of usernames across numerous sites, making it harder to link.
And apparently, a guy from Edition38 paid him a visit, and managed to win a following court case.
Out of all of the threads I've read on this guy, a few people have managed to actually get their money back, with some even receiving the parts.
I'll be surprised if he even has the coilovers he mentioned, but I don't see why I can't get my money back if others have succeeded.
Fingers crossed you get your money back mate. If i was local to him I would have paid a visit for you to see what he would have said. I'm guessing he stays with his parents as well so i doubt he would like having people turning up demanding money back or worse :wink:.
Don't let him get away with it, look into small claims and good luck!
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If county court summons him when you have all his details. You'll get the judgement in your favour, whether you get money or goods is another question but it helps go against him with regards to credit etc. I know he won't care but adds up. And of course you have to pay te application. It may work, you never know.
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Justice system is fairly broken if someone so prolific can repeatedly reoffend in such a documented fashion... needs a f*cking good hiding... weekly, until he gets the message. Of course he'll hide behind the law then won't he. f*cker.
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Justice system is fairly broken if someone so prolific can repeatedly reoffend in such a documented fashion... needs a f*cking good hiding... weekly, until he gets the message. Of course he'll hide behind the law then won't he. f*cker.
I agree. It's ridiculous that people can get away with this stuff even once in this day and age. Let alone the numerous times this reject has done it.
I think I should take the MK5 up there to meet the man. Head on. At 75mph. :P
Getting angrier by the day.
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Justice system is fairly broken if someone so prolific can repeatedly reoffend in such a documented fashion... needs a f*cking good hiding... weekly, until he gets the message. Of course he'll hide behind the law then won't he. f*cker.
I agree. It's ridiculous that people can get away with this stuff even once in this day and age. Let alone the numerous times this reject has done it.
I think I should take the MK5 up there to meet the man. Head on. At 75mph. :P
Getting angrier by the day.
That would seem like the answer but as previously stated he would then be the victim and not you!
Just provide the police with all the documentation you have acquired and let them do their bit, however slow it may seem.
You could be just that person who nails the little sh@t and saves many another victim!
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That would seem like the answer but as previously stated he would then be the victim and not you!
Just provide the police with all the documentation you have acquired and let them do their bit, however slow it may seem.
You could be just that person who nails the little sh@t and saves many another victim!
Haha I know :signLOL:
Yeah, exactly my thoughts. Even if I get nothing from it, there will be a point where it stops, and I'd like to contribute to putting this guy away.
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This bloke appears to have some front if he's trying this type of thing as often as it seems while looking to be well known for it. Has anyone actually met him is he a hard nut or some some everyday bloke with a hell of a nerve??? Surely at some point he's going to scam someone who's a complete nutter and is more likely to seek justice by other means......... :fighting:
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I think it's about time he replied on here and explained himself.
When I was reading this thread yesterday I noticed he was online reading it too.
Come on....do the right thing.
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Justice system is fairly broken if someone so prolific can repeatedly reoffend in such a documented fashion... needs a f*cking good hiding... weekly, until he gets the message. Of course he'll hide behind the law then won't he. f*cker.
Essex Racing have been ripping off people for many years too . We did County Court route and sent Bailiffs to their premises and apparently they didn't have anything for the bailiffs to seize !!!???
Summary Justice is the way forward for all Con artists :evilgrin:
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I think it's about time he replied on here and explained himself.
When I was reading this thread yesterday I noticed he was online reading it too.
Come on....do the right thing.
Unfortunately the guy will never do the right thing, he has been ripping people off for years, the guy used to sign up and post on the scamming threads on Edition38 after he had been caught out just to gloat and wind people up.
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It has surprised me that he has not replied to this thread. He has often had some comments to make on most of the other forums.
Glad i didnt pursue his pm's i have had on a few forums, but after requesting pictures and collection he went quiet :signLOL:
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Just heard back from John at GolfGTI.co.uk. He is all to aware of this guy, and says he uses multiple email addresses and internet connections. :fighting: :fighting:
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Just heard back from John at GolfGTI.co.uk. He is all to aware of this guy, and says he uses multiple email addresses and internet connections. :fighting: :fighting:
Not surprised, it seems everyone was aware of this guy except me haha. :fighting2:
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This Guys name seems to pop up so often this, guys an absolute tw4t.
He's been scamming people for years, personally people like this EEEEEdiot are just lowlife scum.
If they had any consideration for other people or even the apprication for peoples hard earnt cash internet dealings would be much better.
Theres a massive list of this Paul Woodwards user names on Edition38 forum, because he's been scamming for quite a while.
SCUM!!
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This Guys name seems to pop up so often this, guys an absolute tw4t.
He's been scamming people for years, personally people like this EEEEEdiot are just lowlife scum.
If they had any consideration for other people or even the apprication for peoples hard earnt cash internet dealings would be much better.
Theres a massive list of this Paul Woodwards user names on Edition38 forum, because he's been scamming for quite a while.
SCUM!!
Speaking the truth! I personally don't get how people like this can live their life's off other people's backs.
He's living off money that he's stolen from people who like me, likely earn less than he does. Yet he still seems to have pride.
He's obviously got some mental issues if he can keep doing this in the first place, let alone after he's already been beaten and charged.
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This Guys name seems to pop up so often this, guys an absolute tw4t.
He's been scamming people for years, personally people like this EEEEEdiot are just lowlife scum.
If they had any consideration for other people or even the apprication for peoples hard earnt cash internet dealings would be much better.
Theres a massive list of this Paul Woodwards user names on Edition38 forum, because he's been scamming for quite a while.
SCUM!!
Speaking the truth! I personally don't get how people like this can live their life's off other people's backs.
He's living off money that he's stolen from people who like me, likely earn less than he does. Yet he still seems to have pride.
He's obviously got some mental issues if he can keep doing this in the first place, let alone after he's already been beaten and charged.
Welcome to the world , these people continue in the way that they do because the UK fails to punish people who do it . Same as many other crimes in the UK , there is no deterrent . I know that the same people commit crime after crime after crime and fail to get really punished , they also claim benefits and we taxpayers pay their housing etc . Commit crime , lose benefits should be the norm . Many people supplement their benefits for the whole of their lives by committing crime . I know this as i was a Police Officer for 30 years , there is less punsihment now than there was when i started ! Rehabilitation rarely works and figures and statistics prove that but we still waste money trying . What about the Victims i say , still they are ignored .....sorry for a bit of a rant !
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/\/\/\/\/ Just about spot on :happy2:
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Im a fairly new member and reading things like this really puts me off purchasing from the forum. Is there any precautions other than paypal that we can take?
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Meet in person and pick it up, that's probably the safest thing you can ever do in regards to buying online.
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Im a fairly new member and reading things like this really puts me off purchasing from the forum. Is there any precautions other than paypal that we can take?
Paypal does offer protection but you need to pay fees on top but many choose to pay as paypal gift which gives you no protection. One way of gaining some confidence is to research who you are buying from such as post count, contributions, feedback from others etc.
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An old Clio forum I was on had this issue they put a section on that you can leave feedback on purchased items threw the forum, just like eBay click there name check feedback
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An old Clio forum I was on had this issue they put a section on that you can leave feedback on purchased items threw the forum, just like eBay click there name check feedback
............& detailing world. :happy2:
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An old Clio forum I was on had this issue they put a section on that you can leave feedback on purchased items threw the forum, just like eBay click there name check feedback
Ctro does this too but it's not moderated and if it isn't closely watched its very easy to fake, especially in a busy for sale section.
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This Guys name seems to pop up so often this, guys an absolute tw4t.
He's been scamming people for years, personally people like this EEEEEdiot are just lowlife scum.
If they had any consideration for other people or even the apprication for peoples hard earnt cash internet dealings would be much better.
Theres a massive list of this Paul Woodwards user names on Edition38 forum, because he's been scamming for quite a while.
SCUM!!
Speaking the truth! I personally don't get how people like this can live their life's off other people's backs.
He's living off money that he's stolen from people who like me, likely earn less than he does. Yet he still seems to have pride.
He's obviously got some mental issues if he can keep doing this in the first place, let alone after he's already been beaten and charged.
Welcome to the world , these people continue in the way that they do because the UK fails to punish people who do it . Same as many other crimes in the UK , there is no deterrent . I know that the same people commit crime after crime after crime and fail to get really punished , they also claim benefits and we taxpayers pay their housing etc . Commit crime , lose benefits should be the norm . Many people supplement their benefits for the whole of their lives by committing crime . I know this as i was a Police Officer for 30 years , there is less punsihment now than there was when i started ! Rehabilitation rarely works and figures and statistics prove that but we still waste money trying . What about the Victims i say , still they are ignored .....sorry for a bit of a rant !
Spot on mate , unfortunately