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Title: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: edition30jmr on September 19, 2013, 05:07:07 pm
Hi guys I'm looking to get the following retrofitted to my ed30:

RNS 510,
MFSW Buttons,
Maybe Cruise control.

Where's the best place to get these from?

Vw quoted me these prices for the bits with car and fitting; £2,353.00 for RNS 510, £200 for MFSW buttons and £275 for cruise control.

I obviously don't want to pay this much as its crazy! Is there anywhere local to where I live (Stourbridge/Birmingham) where I can get these fitted for a better price? Or can you do any of these yourself, I think id need the canbus gateway for the rns510 as my ed30 is a 2007 model, how easy are they to fit etc? Any advice?

Thanks

Jay  :driver:
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: john a on September 19, 2013, 05:11:29 pm
If you're confident with the spanners then DIY otherwise go to Eddie_NL. He is based in East Anglia (and worth the visit) but is ocassionally out and about.
Title: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: Nodz on September 19, 2013, 05:14:46 pm
Go see Eddie NL can't fault his work but it would be a bit if a trek. There are others around that way who can do it but can't think of any off the top of my head. Also you will pay at least have of what VW have quoted
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: skard on September 19, 2013, 05:15:57 pm
All of these things are easy to do physically, compiling the right hardware is key here as there will be supporting parts required (steering wheel modules, CAN gateway possibly, looms etc). You need VCDS too for it.

Everyone says Eddie-NL for good reason, he'll keep you right.
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: JoeDarKa on September 19, 2013, 05:17:28 pm
All do-able but you need someone with vcds to code
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: edition30jmr on September 19, 2013, 05:38:24 pm
If I fit the rns510 can VW then code it up properly etc? What do you think of these guys they will come to my work place to do it:
http://www.hazzydayz.com/genuine-vw-rns-510-sat-navdvd-player-supply--fit-773-p.asp

Not sure what to do how easy is it fitting the system? Is it straight forward unplug the plug the new one back in?

Also would it work through the MFSW, volume etc?

Is there anyone local able to Vagcom it etc?

Sorry about all the questions just need to be sure before I do anything!

Thanks

Jay
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: MC71 on September 19, 2013, 05:40:25 pm
^^^^ A touch expensive! :confused:

I'd PM Eddie-NL, a member on here who offers a retro fitting service. Give him this list and ask him if he can help you out. He's not a million miles from you and well worth the trip.

The RNS units are on here (in the For Sale section) a fair bit, look for the Version C and above (the LED screen ones), they sell for around £400+ depending on the Version. Use that as a price guide and look on eBay too, make sure it comes with its security code. You'll also need a GPS antenna and FAKRA antenna adapter, cost peanuts on eBay.

One in the For Sale section (with Gateway). Nowt to do with me......

~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,69415.0.html)

Cruise control stalks go for around £50+ on eBay. Ed supplies these and also supplies and fits these for less than £100. Ed can also supply and fit a new Can Gateway if ones needed.

Ed.....

~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345)

If your cars a DSG then MFSW buttons are an easy add on, if its a manual then it can't be done.


Fitting of all this lot is straight forward (if you know what your doing). Personally I leave these thing to the experts, there's a few on here luckily enough.


 :happy2:
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: Tortaruga on September 19, 2013, 05:52:43 pm
If your cars a DSG then MFSW buttons are an easy add on, if its a manual then it can't be done.

Why not? :confused:
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: xjay1337 on September 19, 2013, 05:57:25 pm
It can be done.. they just either don't do anything or you can wire them up to do other things... like cruise control.
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: skard on September 19, 2013, 06:18:26 pm
If your cars a DSG then MFSW buttons are an easy add on, if its a manual then it can't be done.

Why not? :confused:

Think he means you can't add MF buttons to a manual wheel, whereas you can with a DSG wheel (it has a cavity to take buttons).
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: MC71 on September 19, 2013, 06:20:26 pm
^^^^ Cheers, thats what i was trying to say.  :happy2:


Theres no room behind the plastic blank plates where the buttons would go. Its all there on DSG wheels whether it has buttons or not but not on a non MFSW steering wheel in a manual car.

Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: Mk5Dom on September 19, 2013, 07:26:58 pm
Eddie, Eddie, Eddie.
Have dealt with Ed twice and it's well worth the 300 mile round trip.

Oooooh and Stourbridge! That's the dealership mine came from.
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: dan930 on September 19, 2013, 07:55:48 pm
Go to EDDIE NL...retro fit king.....don't think there's nothing he can do regarding retro fitting
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: xjay1337 on September 19, 2013, 09:15:55 pm
Eddie is very good
However things like stereos just fit yourself it's a pile of pee.
Honestly save yourself the money and learn at the same time!
Eddie is a very good guy I've used him many times and out of my alliegience to him I'd probably just pay him to do anything more than a cruise control retrofit or a radio swap but yeah.. at least try things yourself. Else how would you learn?  :happy2:

I mean don't even consider paying VW £2300 you can buy the units for £400 used .
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: edition30jmr on September 19, 2013, 09:56:33 pm
Good shout XJAY1337 I'm gonna get my hands on a RNS 510 as there's a few bobbing about at the minute and at a canbus gateway then have a blast at it myself, thing is do I need the satnav/DVD device coded?

Thanks Jay
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: xjay1337 on September 19, 2013, 10:11:00 pm
No you don't need it coded.
HOWEVER you will need Vagcom to code the new can gateway.
Vagcom can be picked up for £75 for non genuine (they work fine).
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: edition30jmr on September 20, 2013, 12:38:55 pm
I've found one for sale it says that you don't need the can bus gateway part due to it being the new software version is this correct?

This is what he said: All wires and cables yes, no instructions or orig box you get everything you see in the pics as stated. It Came out of a 2008 car and worked fine in my 2004 mk5 golf with no battery drain for years

VW RNS 510 SAT NAV SYSTEM
GENUINE VW PART

VERSION A
2007

Taken out of my GOLF MK5 and in full working order when I removed it,this was only cos I changed my car.

What do you guys think will this just be plug and play?

Thanks Jay
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: Hedge on September 20, 2013, 01:29:01 pm
No you don't need it coded.
HOWEVER you will need Vagcom to code the new can gateway.
Vagcom can be picked up for £75 for non genuine (they work fine).

Please don't endorse the use of non-genuine VCDS.
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: Eddie-NL on September 20, 2013, 01:48:06 pm
No you don't need it coded.
HOWEVER you will need Vagcom to code the new can gateway.
Vagcom can be picked up for £75 for non genuine (they work fine).

good to see you are supporting the original software / hardware developer.

Genuine vag com is cheap for what you get
Title: Re:
Post by: LondonGT on September 20, 2013, 01:49:21 pm
I used Hazzydayz, did a great job and charge by the hour if you supply parts. Also when there was a tpms issue they came and spent ages sorting it with no issues at all.

I tried a few recommended people on here but guess they were busy as not one responded.

I got highline, mfsw, tpms and cruise done. Went with the kenwood unit in the end but have seen that fixing in a second hand unit isn't too tough.
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: garrardrj on September 20, 2013, 02:16:18 pm
My ED30 is May 2007 , i put in a RNS510 which was brand new , it came from Lithuania or similar , it is the genuine article and cost me £600. It is simple to fit and i didn't need any Canbus update either . Eddie - NL is the one to go to . Don't bother with the MF buttons either , whats the point ? Everthing is within arms length anyway ! Cruise is a little more difficult and Eddie did mine  :smiley:
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: xjay1337 on September 20, 2013, 04:38:15 pm
People can use what they want and you and I can't force them!
I am not "endorsing" the use of it. I'm making a factual statement (that it works fine) and offering a different suggestion. I would recommend using Genuine VAGCOM as you get all the updates and latest codings as well as the support of Rosstech which is great but not everyone can afford £280.

 :indifferent:
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: xjay1337 on September 20, 2013, 04:39:47 pm
I've found one for sale it says that you don't need the can bus gateway part due to it being the new software version is this correct?

This is what he said: All wires and cables yes, no instructions or orig box you get everything you see in the pics as stated. It Came out of a 2008 car and worked fine in my 2004 mk5 golf with no battery drain for years

VW RNS 510 SAT NAV SYSTEM
GENUINE VW PART

VERSION A
2007

Taken out of my GOLF MK5 and in full working order when I removed it,this was only cos I changed my car.

What do you guys think will this just be plug and play?

Thanks Jay

Hi dude
As long as you have the radio code yes should plug straight in.
If you want the directions to show in your full height cluster then you'd need VAGCOM.

Also as the battery drain yes there is a certain version of Firmware that will negate the need to change the gateway.
If you do still get drain yes you would need to change the gateway however there is a bodge you can do with the fusebox for a temporary fix.
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: Hedge on September 20, 2013, 05:09:27 pm
People can use what they want and you and I can't force them!

No but they can be advised to either use a genuine lead or to contact a member that has one and is willing to help. There is a list on here in the VCDS section.

If everyone used non-genuine cables there would be no Ross Tech or the need for them to develop as VAG change their models then where would we be?
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: mrxbox360 on September 20, 2013, 07:51:25 pm
People can use what they want and you and I can't force them!

No but they can be advised to either use a genuine lead or to contact a member that has one and is willing to help. There is a list on here in the VCDS section.

If everyone used non-genuine cables there would be no Ross Tech or the need for them to develop as VAG change their models then where would we be?

well said m8 & you can pick up 2nd hand vcds from here or on the bay approx £150
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: sanj on September 20, 2013, 08:43:49 pm
Do it yourself mate.I did,spend some of that money on a genuine vagcom cable and code it all in yourself,my Edition30 is an early 2007 and did'nt need the a new can gateway,trust me the vagcom cable is worth every penny! :happy2:
Title: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: edition30jmr on September 25, 2013, 05:21:03 pm
Okay guys just saving for the rns510 and il install myself end of the month or just after!

Il have to upload some pics of my eddy and mods etc that have or will be done!

Thanks for all your help!

Jay
Title: Re: Re: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: RetroRaz on September 25, 2013, 05:26:59 pm
Okay guys just saving for the rns510 and il install myself end of the month or just after!

Il have to upload some pics of my eddy and mods etc that have or will be done!

Thanks for all your help!

Jay

My rns will be up for sale soon

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: edition30jmr on September 25, 2013, 07:59:48 pm
Okay guys just saving for the rns510 and il install myself end of the month or just after!

Il have to upload some pics of my eddy and mods etc that have or will be done!

Thanks for all your help!

Jay

My rns will be up for sale soon

Sent From My Samsung S3

Give me a pm and when are you looking to sell it?

Thanks

Jay
Title: Re: Re: Retrofits, best places to do them or DIY?
Post by: RetroRaz on September 25, 2013, 08:02:45 pm
Will be removed this weekend from the car.

Ill pm you

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