MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Liam_G87 on October 05, 2013, 10:49:14 pm
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Hi all,
I'm on this forum looking to buy a GTI/ED30.
I've seen an ED30 advertised and it's exactly what I want: Grey, 5dr, 70k, FSH, sat nav, well looked after.
But the price is putting me off... It's £8,390! Is this too cheap?
I'm going to speak to the seller tomorrow and ask more questions, do a HPI check etc and if it comes back ok I'll go and view it.
What do you guys think?
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I would say it is very very cheap. Some people want a quick sale.
Mine is going soon but nowhere near that price, just for comparison!
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spec... year?
dont reckon Its that far off.... tbh
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Oh yeah sorry.
2006
2 previous owners
Goodyear eagle F1 tyres all round
Sat Nav
Front centre armrest with iPod dock
Highline computer
Electric folding mirrors with puddle lights
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2006? Won't be an ED30 then......
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2006? Won't be an ED30 then......
Mine was brought into the country late 12-2006 but not registered for a month
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It's a 2006 (56) build no: 0005.
Thought they were built between 06-09?
You guys will know more than me, I'm just trying to find out more info
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I found the one you are looking at and it is missing a few bits of spec but still a cheap, nice looking car
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2006? Won't be an ED30 then......
Mine was brought into the country late 12-2006 but not registered for a month
My bad, never seen a 56 plate one myself. Thought production started in 2007 but according to 'How many left' 5 were registered in 2006.
As you were! :laugh:
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If something is cheap then there is an issue somewhere with it .
Don't buy it is my advice , people don't advertise stuff cheap for no reason
Found the one you're looking at - Looks ok , but as i said above really . When you sell anything don't you research the market first ? Maybe this person hasn't and its a bargain , you never know . It would sell all day at £9k , so why not advertise it at £9000 + . Its got no number plates on it at all , which is odd usually they have been blurred out or similar , this is so you can't check the number prior to going to see it , Get the number and do a search , vin or index will get the history , then you will know what the issue is . There will be something which they are not telling in the advert :innocent:
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Mine was a 56 plate and mine had quite a few upgrade's,RNS510,WALK,Sach's clutch,Eibach spring's and 63k on the clock and it went for £9300 as I wanted a quick sale so you can get a few bargain's out there! :smiley:
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If something is cheap then there is an issue somewhere with it .
Don't buy it is my advice , people don't advertise stuff cheap for no reason
Found the one you're looking at - Looks ok , but as i said above really . When you sell anything don't you research the market first ? Maybe this person hasn't and its a bargain , you never know . It would sell all day at £9k , so why not advertise it at £9000 + . Its got no number plates on it at all , which is odd usually they have been blurred out or similar , this is so you can't check the number prior to going to see it , Get the number and do a search , vin or index will get the history , then you will know what the issue is . There will be something which they are not telling in the advert :innocent:
Woooahhh - generalisations there! Not the case at all. That's like saying that you dont need to check out an expensive one carefully because of course they'll be good if they're expensive! I've bought plenty of bargain cars that have been fantastic - people price their cars for lots of reasons.
To the original poster - I don't know the car, but just check it out like you would any other - if you're not sure then take someone along with you who is. I also think you can get a very good feel for how genuine the car is by meeting/talking to the seller. Nothing to stop you haggling the price down either! It's well priced but doesnt sound that far off to be honest. Let us know how you get on.
EDIT: just found the car. That looks/sounds very genuine - worth a look at least. The grey is not an easy colour to match, so paintwork often shows up. Service history, choice of tyres etc all suggest a well cared for car. Worth asking how long he's had it too - often another good sign if he's had it a while, which is sounds like he has. Number plates perhaps removed during preparation for sale - private reg on it?
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Just seen the advert , the car looks nice
Worth check mot history as it appears not to line up with the registration date & tax
Mot june 2014
Tax nov 2013
But it could have been sat on a forcourt at some point
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If something is cheap then there is an issue somewhere with it .
Don't buy it is my advice , people don't advertise stuff cheap for no reason
Found the one you're looking at - Looks ok , but as i said above really . When you sell anything don't you research the market first ? Maybe this person hasn't and its a bargain , you never know . It would sell all day at £9k , so why not advertise it at £9000 + . Its got no number plates on it at all , which is odd usually they have been blurred out or similar , this is so you can't check the number prior to going to see it , Get the number and do a search , vin or index will get the history , then you will know what the issue is . There will be something which they are not telling in the advert :innocent:
Woooahhh - generalisations there! Not the case at all. That's like saying that you dont need to check out an expensive one carefully because of course they'll be good if they're expensive! I've bought plenty of bargain cars that have been fantastic - people price their cars for lots of reasons.
To the original poster - I don't know the car, but just check it out like you would any other - if you're not sure then take someone along with you who is. I also think you can get a very good feel for how genuine the car is by meeting/talking to the seller. Nothing to stop you haggling the price down either! It's well priced but doesnt sound that far off to be honest. Let us know how you get on.
EDIT: just found the car. That looks/sounds very genuine - worth a look at least. The grey is not an easy colour to match, so paintwork often shows up. Service history, choice of tyres etc all suggest a well cared for car. Worth asking how long he's had it too - often another good sign if he's had it a while, which is sounds like he has. Number plates perhaps removed during preparation for sale - private reg on it?
I have my view and you have yours , if private sale prices are too cheap there is a hidden issue 99 times out of 100 . I have dealt with issues involving the miss selling of cars , stolen cars , categorised cars , fraud involving cars , cloned cars , rung cars , fake docs , errors by DVLA etc for cars for over 30 years , but then what do i know :rolleye:
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Just looked at the last 35 cars we found stolen on cloned/rung/ fake docs and returned to the owner , everyone (THATS ALL THIRTY FIVE OF THEM) had been sold less than their Market value attracting buyers in their droves . 18 were sold on ebay , all the ones sold on ebay were Private sales , none of the actual transaction took place at the address on the log book ! 10 had been sold on autotrader , 6 on roadside ads in the window and seller meets you at the car etc .
Not all were returned to their owners due to other Technical/Law reasons .
Nine cars were bought by Traders/Experienced/Older supposedly savvy people with many years experience of the motor trade - One paid £29000 for an M3 less than a year old , keys stolen and fake documentation created - Car bought near Gatwick Airport in a lay by paid in cash !
Caveat Emptor :innocent:
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But it could have been sat on a forcourt at some point
Probably this, mine is out of alignment as it was MOT'd twice in two months after it was traded in by the first owner, VW must have done it to sell with a full ticket.
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I spoke to the seller today and he seems like a genuine bloke.
Done a HPI check and it all came back clear. He's got both keys, all manuals, V5, all MOT certs and sat nav disc.
It's also getting a service done tomorrow by a VW specialist.
Arranged to go view it tomorrow so fingers crossed everything goes ok because it's a 240 mile round trip!
Is there anything in particular I should look for on an ED30? Rust? Cambelt changed?
Thanks for your help
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I have my view and you have yours , if private sale prices are too cheap there is a hidden issue 99 times out of 100 . I have dealt with issues involving the miss selling of cars , stolen cars , categorised cars , fraud involving cars , cloned cars , rung cars , fake docs , errors by DVLA etc for cars for over 30 years , but then what do i know :rolleye:
The point was (and still is), that you have to judge every car on its individual merits. This particular car may well be under-priced and hiding something, but the fact it's cheap doesn't ensure it's hiding something.
Not sure where your 99/100 value comes from but I must be extremely lucky, as in quite a lot of years (though, granted: I'm not as old as you :wink: ), I've frequently bought cars under market value and never yet had a bad one. You just have to buy carefully and check them and the seller out. Sellers choose their prices for all sorts of reasons - just wanting to beat a trade-in price, needing a quick sale etc etc.
OP - fingers crossed that this one is 1/100!
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I spoke to the seller today and he seems like a genuine bloke.
Done a HPI check and it all came back clear. He's got both keys, all manuals, V5, all MOT certs and sat nav disc.
It's also getting a service done tomorrow by a VW specialist.
Arranged to go view it tomorrow so fingers crossed everything goes ok because it's a 240 mile round trip!
Is there anything in particular I should look for on an ED30? Rust? Cambelt changed?
Thanks for your help
Check fior smoke on startup and on boost, there is a ton of stoff to look at
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I spoke to the seller today and he seems like a genuine bloke.
Done a HPI check and it all came back clear. He's got both keys, all manuals, V5, all MOT certs and sat nav disc.
It's also getting a service done tomorrow by a VW specialist.
Arranged to go view it tomorrow so fingers crossed everything goes ok because it's a 240 mile round trip!
Is there anything in particular I should look for on an ED30? Rust? Cambelt changed?
Thanks for your help
People that are the best conmen in the world are the most believable . Whats the index number and vin ? did you cross refer them on a Data check ?
Ask him direct why he is selling the car less than you think it should be , this may scupper an offer you might want to make him though
Check the Vin Numbers , stamped and the plate aswell as the visible vin . Check date stamps on some of the plastic if you can , some random stuff like if you can . This will have date stamps on them which should tally with the age of the car (No more than 4 months max before the first Reg Date) try to get some dates sfrom the interior and exterior to compare the manufacture dates of the plastics . If the dates are out (all should be very similar with Vw's) ask yourself why ? That could be reasons , can he explain why the dates are out or has he knowledge of replacement parts ? Is the owner on this forum or does he have knowledge of this forum ? Good Luck , as the other poster says - There are genuine bargains out there but be careful :happy2:
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Worth phoning VW with the reg number too - they'll tell you the spec, when they've sold it, and when they've serviced it. Great service - the Audi equivalent has helped me out before, avoiding a clocked car with fake history!
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Have you purchased it ??
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Caveat Emptor - Ooo I like that! Buyer beware!
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Any update on this thread ????
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Sorry for the late reply. Basically I didn't go view it.
I'd already done a HPI check but for some reason I decided to do another one with a different company and it came back with a mileage discrepancy.
Date recorded Recorded by Mileage reading
22/May/2007 NMR 2,000
09/Jul/2007 NMR 14,000
18/Mar/2008 NMR 9,000
04/Apr/2008 NMR 9,000
The first check came back ok but the second one had a mileage issue and it just put me off. I know the mileage might of been incorrectly entered at some point but I didn't want to travel all that way to be disappointed. I contacted the seller but didn't get a reply back.
The search continues...
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Sorry for the late reply. Basically I didn't go view it.
I'd already done a HPI check but for some reason I decided to do another one with a different company and it came back with a mileage discrepancy.
Date recorded Recorded by Mileage reading
22/May/2007 NMR 2,000
09/Jul/2007 NMR 14,000
18/Mar/2008 NMR 9,000
04/Apr/2008 NMR 9,000
The first check came back ok but the second one had a mileage issue and it just put me off. I know the mileage might of been incorrectly entered at some point but I didn't want to travel all that way to be disappointed. I contacted the seller but didn't get a reply back.
The search continues...
At a guess, I'd say that the 14,000 is an input error and should've been 4,000 (would otherwise have done 12,000 miles in about 6 weeks! NMR is notoriously unreliable - it even records HPI mileage that any random punter types into an HPI check. However, even if it is an error you'd just have the same issue come resale time, so I think you made the right decision.
Had the seller at least replied to you, it might've been worth phoning VW to see how their records correlated, but as he hasn't I wouldn't bother. As per the advice on this thread - always worth doing your homework....especially for cars being sold for a perceived low price!
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Where is the car advertised
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Where is the car advertised
Think it was autotrader
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When I was searching for mine I found a really cheap E30 - turns out it was badly crashed but not registered with the insurance. Nice guy selling it decided to repair it and not tell prospective buyers... I would always steer clear if you have concerns - good car with a fair price will be worth the same when you come to sell IMO.
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I would rather a high mileage rolled ed30 over a categorised one
Cdl engine :happy2: