MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: monte on October 10, 2013, 01:42:36 am

Title: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: monte on October 10, 2013, 01:42:36 am
Can we start a list of some of the Big Brake Kits that are available for our cars?

I for one didn't do much research recently when I bought a TTRS kit. I would really like to find a good set of brakes for fast road and the odd track day that won't involve me using loads of different sets if spacers and wheel bolts.

I know of a few kits, but if anyone with any technical info/prices/links etc can add a reply, then ill copy and paste it to this first post.



S3/R32/Leon 345mm kit
NQSBBK
VWR kit
TTRS 4pot 370mm kit
AKS 370mm kit
AP Racing 4pot 330mm kit
Tarox 10pot kit
Alcon kit
RS4 B5 360mm kit
Porsche Cayenne 18Z kit
Porsche 996 4pot 350mm kit


So any more kits?

Any info on the kits above?

Any links/pics/rough prices?


I don't know if this thread will work and be of any help. Hopefully it will be a good un.  :smiley:




Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Andy on October 10, 2013, 01:52:27 am
think its a excellent post-as you know i would like the ttrs calipers but i dont want to be messing about with spacers etc;After a disc i can just put on like normal
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Shorty on October 10, 2013, 07:19:35 am
What's wrong with TTRS calipers? I'm looking to get rid of my R32's and get some on my car..
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on October 10, 2013, 08:19:59 am
happy to throw some pros/cons on each when this thread comes of age, some Format and the first post being the key post.

I can add available compounds, piston sizes, typical fail modes on calipers etc etc, things to look out for, RRP prices for the pads.

Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Rumple on October 10, 2013, 09:23:35 am
Ill be watching this one!  :happy2:
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: monte on October 10, 2013, 09:38:18 am
happy to throw some pros/cons on each when this thread comes of age, some Format and the first post being the key post.

I can add available compounds, piston sizes, typical fail modes on calipers etc etc, things to look out for, RRP prices for the pads.



Awesome Dave, that's great  :notworthy:
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Top Cat on October 10, 2013, 12:23:26 pm
B5 RS4 kit. It used to stop me dead if you even brushed passed the pedal, thinking back it was probably to much braking for my 270BHP but probably about right for all you BHP whores.  :signLOL:
it comes with a few slight problems to work around but it can definitely be described as a big brake kit.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36.195.html  
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: graeme on October 10, 2013, 01:30:37 pm
xyz
stoptech
brembo.

You name it they do it.  :wink:
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: berg on October 10, 2013, 02:23:41 pm
996 tt - as per MIke's review.

great stopping power but unfortunately not as hassle free as i hoped as had to get 3mm spacers and arches rolled for £400.00  :sad1:
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: nicky on October 10, 2013, 02:39:52 pm
Cayenne 18z 6 pots, I'm running a 8" front wheel et45 and they fit with a 3mm spacer.
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: sub39h on October 10, 2013, 06:51:27 pm
996 tt - as per MIke's review.

great stopping power but unfortunately not as hassle free as i hoped as had to get 3mm spacers and arches rolled for £400.00  :sad1:

i thought the Mk5's arches came "rolled" already
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: berg on October 10, 2013, 08:41:18 pm
996 tt - as per MIke's review.

great stopping power but unfortunately not as hassle free as i hoped as had to get 3mm spacers and arches rolled for £400.00  :sad1:

i thought the Mk5's arches came "rolled" already


not enough to stop damage to my front offside wing running negative camber with TT wishbones and sticky PSS
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: valle on October 10, 2013, 08:48:25 pm
from other forum , if any good:

brakes per side inc disk/caliper/carrier
tt 312mm 14.5kg
tts 340mm 20kg
s3/r32 345mm 21.4kg
ttrs 370mm 17kg
rs6 390mm 21.5kg
b7 RS4 8pot caliper with ttrs 370 disks 17.5kg
RS4 (B7) 8 pot Calipers , Pagid Blue RS4-2 Pads, AP Racing Directional 362mmx32mm drilled rotors, AP racing Bells 14kg
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Scottymon on October 10, 2013, 08:49:50 pm
from other forum , if any good:

brakes per side inc disk/caliper/carrier
tt 312mm 14.5kg
tts 340mm 20kg
s3/r32 345mm 21.4kg
ttrs 370mm 17kg
rs6 390mm 21.5kg
b7 RS4 8pot caliper with ttrs 370 disks 17.5kg
RS4 (B7) 8 pot Calipers , Pagid Blue RS4-2 Pads, AP Racing Directional 362mmx32mm drilled rotors, AP racing Bells 14kg

The single piston r32/cupra setup is a bit of a joke with the weight isn't it.
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: valle on October 10, 2013, 08:56:41 pm
http://vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=10174

i think so to...
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Nafeun on October 10, 2013, 09:05:59 pm
Ttrs. Brilliant calipers
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 10, 2013, 10:27:12 pm
B5 RS4 kit. It used to stop me dead if you even brushed passed the pedal, thinking back it was probably to much braking for my 270BHP but probably about right for all you BHP whores.  :signLOL:
it comes with a few slight problems to work around but it can definitely be described as a big brake kit.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36.195.html  

If i had gone back to an to A 2.0tfsi platform this is 100% what i would have put on it!!
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: GarethB on October 10, 2013, 10:36:24 pm
AP Racing 330mm 4 pots - unbelievable brakes and will fit behind 17" Monzas  :happy2:
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: valle on October 11, 2013, 06:01:38 pm
what about forge bbk?? :ashamed:
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on October 12, 2013, 10:35:52 am
Manufactured in China, no big secret, the box it comes in is covered in chinese writing, its also very evident that the box has never been opened within the UK.

Nick Vaughn is a lifelong forge fan and fitted them to his 8L Track S3, he sort of regrets it lets say....Forge superb engineering for their mainstream products but pads and discs need to be expensive and last or cheap and disposable, soon as you start mixing up the sentences its either very good or very bad.

if you dont want to buy branded quality stuff, then you might as well not bother and spend it on suspension or more engine goodness or a new map. Alternatively run something with cheapy cheap cheap consumables and anticipate swapping them out more frequently.

Nicks setup lasted 3 laps...... £1000 down the crapper

In addition anything over 343mm (13.5") needs to have some element of float if you're going to get them hot, thats BASIC brake tech if the product exceeds that size and is bolted together its all show and no stop and is designed to relieve you of your money and not to stop well
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Paul_zx6r on October 12, 2013, 11:45:08 pm
from other forum , if any good:

brakes per side inc disk/caliper/carrier
tt 312mm 14.5kg
tts 340mm 20kg
s3/r32 345mm 21.4kg
ttrs 370mm 17kg
rs6 390mm 21.5kg
b7 RS4 8pot caliper with ttrs 370 disks 17.5kg
RS4 (B7) 8 pot Calipers , Pagid Blue RS4-2 Pads, AP Racing Directional 362mmx32mm drilled rotors, AP racing Bells 14kg

The single piston r32/cupra setup is a bit of a joke with the weight isn't it.
Definitely agree with that looking at the weight of the others
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: rich83 on October 12, 2013, 11:52:21 pm
from other forum , if any good:

brakes per side inc disk/caliper/carrier
tt 312mm 14.5kg
tts 340mm 20kg
s3/r32 345mm 21.4kg
ttrs 370mm 17kg
rs6 390mm 21.5kg
b7 RS4 8pot caliper with ttrs 370 disks 17.5kg
RS4 (B7) 8 pot Calipers , Pagid Blue RS4-2 Pads, AP Racing Directional 362mmx32mm drilled rotors, AP racing Bells 14kg

The single piston r32/cupra setup is a bit of a joke with the weight isn't it.
Definitely agree with that looking at the weight of the others

Yes they are quite heavy.

At the end of the day it all depends on what you want but I'm guessing (strong guess... i.e. know)  that for 95%+ of people on this forum the R32 345mm setup would be adequate for their useage... unless you just have to have "bigger/better/shinier" just for the hell of it.

Yes they are heavy... yes they are single piston... yes the discs are solid.... but in terms of cost vs performance, you wont find a better kit.
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Scottymon on October 13, 2013, 12:52:05 am
I still don't know what happened to the Cupra R brakes from the 1.8T.. They were 4 pots and no doubt A LOT lighter with similar braking power... Why did VAG decide on the single pistons over those, or at least an evolution of them... Cost? Contracts?
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: rex on October 13, 2013, 10:43:45 am
VAG never fitted multi piston calipers on their MK5 platform except TTRS - RS3.
But they sell Brembo 4 pot calipers with 312x25 discs on Ibiza Cupra R... Seat is considered to be the sportiest of the brands so they get all the fancy brakes  :smiley:
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: Scottymon on October 13, 2013, 10:55:22 am
I know dude.  But they should share more of the parts bin, Christ knows the Cupra wouldn't exist without Audi parts.  Even the newer cupra moved away from the 4 pots to the heavy single piston... :rolleye:
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: rich83 on October 13, 2013, 10:58:53 am
Its all down to saving money.... look at the new M3 V8.... 4 pots??? 6 pots???? 
Title: Re: What BIG Brake Kits are available for Mk5GTI?
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on October 13, 2013, 11:17:27 am
Those Leon mk2 330x28mm replacement discs for the brembo four pots are special order and nearly £500.

I wouldn't put those in the cheap consumable category. AP Supercopa rotors we use on the Miltek car are cheaper

I'd be scared to track them and that's the point, cheap with no major risk or expensive enough they can cope that would be my approach to new brakes.

Or if its a show pony then it doesn't really matter I guess