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Title: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 17, 2013, 06:12:26 pm
I'm buying a 'R' this weekend but most of the one's for sale are DSG's,i've driven manual car's all my life and would never go DSG but what's so special about it? :smiley:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: Marc-5-GTI on October 17, 2013, 06:19:14 pm
I thought this too... Have a test drive... You'll soon realise for yourself  :driver:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: berg on October 17, 2013, 06:35:49 pm
Dsg is the future

So there is a strong argument to get another manual and enjoy it whilst you can sanj
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: xjay1337 on October 17, 2013, 06:37:35 pm
Try it and make your own mind up.
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 17, 2013, 06:38:17 pm
Thank's for the reply guy's,gonna be spending £25k+ so wanted to make sure whether i'm doing the right thing,mmm let's see! :happy2:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sub39h on October 17, 2013, 06:45:21 pm
my personal opinion is that DSG is the best of both worlds and i would never drive a manual again. you might not feel it's involving enough. only you will know. test drive it and see.
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: MAT ED30 on October 17, 2013, 06:46:41 pm
Don't get me started on dsg  :sick:  :signLOL: never did anything for me after owning one and driving loads but for some people it's the best thing ever but it would be a boring world if we all liked the same thing  :happy2:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: Jonneh on October 17, 2013, 06:59:50 pm
I was just like you buddy, thought manuals are always better.

But DSG is flipping great! Took me a couple of test drives to like it and now I love it. Only way is just to try it out and find out if it works for you!

Having said that though I do still own a few manuals to scratch that itch.
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: aarondsg on October 17, 2013, 07:17:37 pm
I used to be the guy that would say auto is rubbish and all that.
I now own a dsg gti and absolutely love it!
My mate with a 8p 2.0tfsi now also wants dsg  :happy2:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: arris on October 17, 2013, 07:46:41 pm
Also was dead set against a auto,

saw the first edition30 for sale local but was DSG test drove it anyway, and bought it same day  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: dan930 on October 17, 2013, 07:48:15 pm
I used to be the guy that would say auto is rubbish and all that.
I now own a dsg gti and absolutely love it!
My mate with a 8p 2.0tfsi now also wants dsg  :happy2:

+2
I used to be the same as I'm a diehard manual fan but after owning a Dsg ed30 & now a Dsg golfR,I would never buy a manual car,it's best of both worlds but tbh it's up to you..
Ps...get the dsg remapped & it will blow yr socks off mate
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: Human Joist on October 17, 2013, 07:55:09 pm
Never been a fan of automatics. However. I don't see these as an auto. They are so smooth and progressive. The gear change is faultless and almost predictive and super smooth it's also faster too in theory as the change is quicker.

Let me put it this way. My other half only drives auto and she recently bought a new insignia diesel auto and I thought it was super smooth. That is until I got my dsg and now hers seems poor by comparison.
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 17, 2013, 09:04:22 pm
Just spotted a grey 'R' DSG 5 door ACC,with a bluefin superchip fitted which take's it to 300bhp,and it was cheaper than the Rising blue manual but had 44k mile's on it but has had the DSG major service done on it at 40k,I think i'm going to go for it! :smiley:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: dan930 on October 17, 2013, 09:49:38 pm
Just spotted a grey 'R' DSG 5 door ACC,with a bluefin superchip fitted which take's it to 300bhp,and it was cheaper than the Rising blue manual but had 44k mile's on it but has had the DSG major service done on it at 40k,I think i'm going to go for it! :smiley:


Go on to rforum.co.uk....there are a few golfRs for sale
ACC is a nice option to have... I've got it on mine too
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: PND on October 17, 2013, 10:24:21 pm
Just spotted a grey 'R' DSG 5 door ACC,with a bluefin superchip fitted which take's it to 300bhp,and it was cheaper than the Rising blue manual but had 44k mile's on it but has had the DSG major service done on it at 40k,I think i'm going to go for it! :smiley:

It looks like a nice one!  I love the grey car and black wheel combination and DSG is great - I wouldn't be without it now.  Check with them that the warranty is transferable - by the way it's an official 'VW' extended warranty with Mondial.  I know because I asked VW when I was speaking to them about something else earlier today!  :happy2:  If I lived closer, I might have been tempted to buy it myself!  Good luck!

2.7 Transfer of ownership
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the existing policyholder named on the confirmation of cover letter.
As soon as possible after the date of sale, please complete the form at the back of this
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N.B. The Extended Warranty is not transferable to any other vehicle other than that shown
on the confirmation of cover letter.
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: flashp on October 17, 2013, 10:43:00 pm
I have DSG and love it. I recently added some s2t paddles (that's the manufacturer) and made a massive improvement to using DSG in manual. Not cheap, but worth it. http://www.s2tpp.com/VW.html (http://www.s2tpp.com/VW.html)

Statllers had one set in black left and they usually keep stock although I had the last pair  :smiley:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: Dave J on October 17, 2013, 10:55:12 pm
Never expected to have a DSG ED30 when I first set out looking, but after trying both manual and DSG, I felt the DSG was better suited for my daily drive.

Guess I'm getting old, as I got fed up of all the clutch work in heavy traffic. Must admit, the DSG changes are absolutely seemless - my mate was amazed by it on track at Donington last weekend - said there was just no break in the acceleration.

Only time I now miss a manual is the ability to skip gears up and down the gearbox.

I can only advise - try both and make your own decision!
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on October 18, 2013, 12:43:24 pm
I'm a big fan of manual as i prefer the involvement of changing gear myself and the challenge of maintaining smooth gear changes with the clutch - its all part of the skill of driving  :smiley:

However After seeing how well the combination of DSG and haldex work together on Hurdy's, if i was going for an "R", it would be DSG. I think the clutch on a manual would struggle to take a lot of fast launches and would be slipping at Stage 1 anyway. . .

DSG does use a little more fuel and is a little heavier (25kg) than a manual box
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: N8KOW on October 18, 2013, 04:23:52 pm
Never expected to have a DSG ED30 when I first set out looking, but after trying both manual and DSG, I felt the DSG was better suited for my daily drive.

Guess I'm getting old, as I got fed up of all the clutch work in heavy traffic. Must admit, the DSG changes are absolutely seemless - my mate was amazed by it on track at Donington last weekend - said there was just no break in the acceleration.

Only time I now miss a manual is the ability to skip gears up and down the gearbox.

I can only advise - try both and make your own decision!


It's 29 & I'm fed up with manual. It all depends on lifestyle as well, how much driving you do. I find the DSG more engaging then manual, and the fact it's quicker is just the winner for me. Everyday driving in 'D' is perfect. Then 'M' is racecar mode  :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: dan930 on October 18, 2013, 04:53:10 pm
Never expected to have a DSG ED30 when I first set out looking, but after trying both manual and DSG, I felt the DSG was better suited for my daily drive.

Guess I'm getting old, as I got fed up of all the clutch work in heavy traffic. Must admit, the DSG changes are absolutely seemless - my mate was amazed by it on track at Donington last weekend - said there was just no break in the acceleration.

Only time I now miss a manual is the ability to skip gears up and down the gearbox.

I can only advise - try both and make your own decision!


It's 29 & I'm fed up with manual. It all depends on lifestyle as well, how much driving you do. I find the DSG more engaging then manual, and the fact it's quicker is just the winner for me. Everyday driving in 'D' is perfect. Then 'M' is racecar mode  :grin: :laugh:


& s mode is awesome too
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 18, 2013, 05:45:58 pm
Well I finally did it!Bought this 'R'.

http://www.citroenwalsall.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-r-4motion-5dr-dsg-wednesbury-201309108711719

Warranty is transferable and it's had the major service on the DSG at 40k,it's on 44k ata the moment,I managed to get it at £22,600 and it has full service history and is in mint condition,it also has the bluefin hand held mapping tool thrown in as well! :jumping:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: PND on October 18, 2013, 06:47:36 pm
Congratulations!!  :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp:

Enjoy it!
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: TomGTI on October 18, 2013, 07:40:31 pm
Gorgeous car, good buy!
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 18, 2013, 08:04:30 pm
Thank's guy's I collect it next Saturday,can't wait! :smiley:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: dan930 on October 18, 2013, 08:41:58 pm
Get a GIAC Dsg map to go along the bluefin,should be a good combination
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on October 18, 2013, 09:17:51 pm
The best bit is you can sell the bluefin  :signLOL:

After reading this I wouldn't touch them: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,65077.0.html

Their mapping techniques seem to put a lot of strain on components, just dumps a load of boost which tails off later on in the rev range  :scared:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: Leonard on October 18, 2013, 09:20:45 pm
How LAZY are people getting nowadays!!!!!

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 18, 2013, 10:57:33 pm
The best bit is you can sell the bluefin  :signLOL:

After reading this I wouldn't touch them: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,65077.0.html

Their mapping techniques seem to put a lot of strain on components, just dumps a load of boost which tails off later on in the rev range  :scared:


That's the first thing i'll be doing is removing the map,I want to keep the 'R' standard until I have a chance to go to R-Tech! :happy2:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: rdfcpete on October 18, 2013, 11:00:06 pm
I'm beginning to think more often now "I wish I got a DSG box...", but that's usually when I've missed a rushed change into 4th or 5th when I remember the Audi A3 TDI 6MT boxes weren't designed for fast changes back to back  :grin: :chicken: :laugh:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: Marc-5-GTI on October 19, 2013, 12:35:11 am
How LAZY are people getting nowadays!!!!!

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

How JEALOUS are people getting nowadays  :wink:

 :signLOL: :signLOL:

(Joking btw don't hurt me)




Good buy though man! Get some pics up and don't leave the forum behind!
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 19, 2013, 09:13:36 am
How LAZY are people getting nowadays!!!!!

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

How JEALOUS are people getting nowadays  :wink:

 :signLOL: :signLOL:

(Joking btw don't hurt me)




Good buy though man! Get some pics up and don't leave the forum behind!

I'd never leave this forum,it's been my life over the last 2 year's and it's been fantastic! :drinking:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: dan930 on October 19, 2013, 02:23:03 pm
How LAZY are people getting nowadays!!!!!

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

How JEALOUS are people getting nowadays  :wink:

 :signLOL: :signLOL:

(Joking btw don't hurt me)




Good buy though man! Get some pics up and don't leave the forum behind!

I'd never leave this forum,it's been my life over the last 2 year's and it's been fantastic! :drinking:


Have you joined the R forum mate?
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 19, 2013, 03:17:57 pm
I tried to join last week and never got my email to activate? :confused:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: dan930 on October 19, 2013, 04:21:59 pm
I tried to join last week and never got my email to activate? :confused:

It took me ages too when I joined...there's a link when you go on the forum,follow the link mate
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 19, 2013, 04:28:05 pm
I tried to join last week and never got my email to activate? :confused:

It took me ages too when I joined...there's a link when you go on the forum,follow the link mate
Cheer's bud,one week to go and counting!  :party:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: dan930 on October 19, 2013, 04:53:56 pm
I tried to join last week and never got my email to activate? :confused:

It took me ages too when I joined...there's a link when you go on the forum,follow the link mate
Cheer's bud,one week to go and counting!  :party:

I had to wait for 3weeks when I brought mine in aug...had to wait for the misses to go on holiday before I can pick it up
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: MC71 on October 19, 2013, 05:54:34 pm
Love the new car Sanj, looks a peach! Not envious at all............honest!! :laugh:

Enjoy.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Time to go DSG?
Post by: sanj on October 19, 2013, 05:56:27 pm
Love the new car Sanj, looks a peach! Not envious at all............honest!! :laugh:

Enjoy.

 :happy2:

Thank's mate,i've got a nice 100 mile return trip when I pickup the car so that will be fun! :smiley: