MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Mk5 GTian on October 23, 2013, 06:36:40 am
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Whilst I save for my Ed30, I need a handling weapon for weekends that I can get my fix in around Pirbright Bends!
Happy to spend around £2500 - £3500, and want to be able to sell it privately for much the same come Spring when I should be ready to go Ed30.
So far, I've been thinking a Mk2 GTi, a really good Clio 172 cup or a 52/03 plate Mini JCW 210bhp.
The mk2 worries me, as I might get sucked onto the slippery slope, and could be problematic at this budget.
Which would you go for, or would you go for something completely different?
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Clio sports are pretty cheap these days. Good little cars!
Although I don't get the benefit of a cup model. You don't get any of the way extras. Xenon's, cruise control, air con etc.
Jas
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I'd go for the Clio, they are like go karts!
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Clio or mx5 :driver:
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Clio 172 cup or maybe a 182 with cup chassis have owned loads of them I even have a phase 1 172 stripped out in the Grg they are fast little things just make sure it's had the dephaser pulleys done, it's easy to hear if they are buggered as you get a loud tapping noise from the top left hand side (if your standing infront of the car) of the engine. It easy enough to sort but it's expensive to do say £500 ish more or less
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Clio 172 cup. You don't need a fancy car as you want to buy one anyway and as its a weekend toy you won't get fed up of the crappy build quality. Plus if you buy a cheap one its not going to loose any more value between now and when you want to sell.
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I agree with all the comments regarding Clio's and their variants but how about a 205 GTI?
It would be a hoot. :driver: :driver:
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That one they had on 5th gear the other night was nice but had loads of cash thrown at it but great car though
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I have a mk2 golf I use on track and drag runs love it :happy2:
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FWD French clutter. It has to be. Maybe an ABF Ibiza to avoid MKII GTI scene tax?
RWD MX5
Something N/A and light, so it's cheap on consumables, reliable and fun.
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I would have a Mini Cooper S for track fun :driver:
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Clio 172 or 182...great little pocket rocket
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106 gti :happy2:, love my ed30 but man do I miss mine lol
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DC2 Integra R
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There's a few "Which track car for £xxxx" threads around Iain and the usual favourites have been mentioned so far :happy2:
What about a Mk1 Leon Cupra, fairly neat handling and decent setup from factory if they slip under the £3k mark?
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I would have a Mini Cooper S for track fun :driver:
No chance unless it's a works version the stock ones are slow i know have owned both versions and a 172 cup is more fun to drive
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Won't beat a Clio sport or ep3 type r... Or if you can push more megane or dc2 or just chuck 3k into the gti
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I would have a Mini Cooper S for track fun :driver:
No chance unless it's a works version the stock ones are slow i know have owned both versions and a 172 cup is more fun to drive
Yeah that's the one, runs ring round my ed30 on the twisties..great fun, and sound nice with a tuned exhaust.
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JdM integra type R dc2
Awsome car allround , addictive engine
I still have mine as well as ED30
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EP3 civic type r.
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EP3 civic type r.
had a few of those as well the mad sounding engine up in the revs with exhaust and induction done :driver: one of the best mods i did on mine was ditching the potenza tyres they come with from the factory the car handled so much better. Great car do fancy another for some reason
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That one they had on 5th gear the other night was nice but had loads of cash thrown at it but great car though
My mate worked at Charters in Aldershot. One night he walked into the pub, asked me if I'd had a drink (the answer was not yet) and tossed me the keys to his current drive, a supercharged 1.9 205 GTI. Fook me it was quick. Only 180hp or so but it weighed nothing. Needless to say I needed a drink after driving that with damp roads. :driver: :driver:
Any of the Honda Type-R's would fit the bill.
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Would have to be a 182, get alot of bang for your buck if you solely want a toy...
As much as it pains me to say it I bought my mums old Corsa 1.8 SRi as a stop gap.... absolutely loved it! handled like a go kart!
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Get a ek9...wicked little rocket
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MK1 Leon Cupra does not handle well without subtle mods. Though it is better than the MKIV Golf out of the factory. I'm just selling mine!!
May I recommend an early S2000.............
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MK1 Leon Cupra does not handle well without subtle mods
Wouldn't say that, it's not bad.
I've driven a Megane RS265 on track which is arguably the bench mark for FWD handling and you don't drive a MK1 Cupra and get out thinking it's poor - the brakes are particularly good from factory too.
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No it isn't bad but there are far more better handling cars out of the box to fit the OP. Upper and lower front strut brace ad rear ARB help tighten things up a bit though and are pretty easy to fit. oh and an uprated Dog Bone Mount - without it used to suffer wheel hop quite badly when trying to get power down at low speeds (with 210bhp).
TBH though better with something like a Pug GTi (205, 106 306), MX, S2k, Civic Type R, 182, etc.
But feel free to buy my Cupra!!!! :signLOL:
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May I recommend an early S2000.............
Good Call :congrats:
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Gotta be a mint example of a 172 cup , what a hoot to drive
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I remember trying it on years ago in a 2.0L Focus Mk1 against my mates 172, suffice to say it left me for absolute dead on the twisties (and straights). They are very light.
If insurance/tax wasn't such a bind, I'd have lots of past gen. (but exciting) cars under wraps to play with. :party:
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EP3 Type R is a good car but due to the lack of an LSD I'd say get an Integra type R instead. EK9 Type R is great as well but no way u will get one for sub 3K
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EP3 Type R is a good car but due to the lack of an LSD I'd say get an Integra type R instead. EK9 Type R is great as well but no way u will get one for sub 3K
Really...u can't get one for 3-4k...
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You probably could.... But you would be daft to do so...
My friend has a white type Ek9 think its a 2000 so later model... nearly 6k he paid for it... Mad in my eyes!
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Get a ek9...wicked little rocket
What's one of those then? :confused:
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EP3 civic type r.
What's EP3 then? :confused:
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The Bread Van (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8) one isn't it? :evilgrin:
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ep3+civic+type+r&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=mZxpUqXzKKnO0QW7iYGgAg&ved=0CDAQsAQ&biw=1278&bih=540
and ep9
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ep3+civic+type+r&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=mZxpUqXzKKnO0QW7iYGgAg&ved=0CDAQsAQ&biw=1278&bih=540#q=ek9+civic+type+r&rls=en&tbm=isch
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My ex had a 210bhp JCW Cooper S convertible. I looked like a big gay bear driving it, but it was bloody hilarious!! You can get them for around £3600 now, so the list is now:
JCW Mini
Clio 172 cup
Clio 182 (cup chassis)
Early Honda S2000 (bloomin' good shout)
Mk1 Ibiza Cupra
I've driven all but the Ibiza and 172 cup, so I'm going to find one to test drive. Aren't these the ones with all the safety mods removed and nicknamed the 'widowmaker'? I've driven a normal 172 which was pretty good. Is there a huge difference between it and the cup?
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What are mk1 TT 225's like on the handling front? Never driven one.
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yep massive change its a lighter car and just drives a bit better so 172 cup all day long they did them in silver too but are pretty rare i think
what about a s2 106 rallye with the saxo vts mtr in it they are mad funny :driver:
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I toook a 182 out for a test drive not so long ago... I used to own one & loved it but having got back in one I instantly remembered why I got rid of it....
Clutch is sooooo heavy.
Seats are really high and the driving position is awful.
Head is about 3inches away from the windscreen.
NO mod cons.
Window wipers look like they are made of match sticks & are right in front of your face off.
Feels about as safe as a go kart.
But.... as a toy and soley as that all the above make it so much fun to drive :/
Daily driver - no.
Toy - BIG YES!
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Every winter I want a:
RIP a Legend.
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No mod cons eh :confused: they have air con,cruise control,xenon head lights,half leather seats and some have nav too plus they have multi function steering wheel :signLOL: well it controls the cruise and the stereo
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No mod cons eh :confused: they have air con,cruise control,xenon head lights,half leather seats and some have nav too plus they have multi function steering wheel :signLOL: well it controls the cruise and the stereo
Cup chasis models don't pal.
:P
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The 172 cup has nothing but 182 cup chassis does 182 trophy still has most mod cons I should know I have owned something silly like 6 Clio sports in all guises and still have a phase 1 Clio now
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In terms of mod cons I was talking abit more than air con & such like anyway pal, clio's are far from luxurious lets be honest.
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:signLOL: yeah it's no vag or anything but it's built to be fun and that's what they are
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:signLOL: yeah it's no vag or anything but it's built to be fun and that's what they are
Entirely my point pal, Ive owned CS's - I love em, if I had the dosh to insure two cars, one being solely for a toy then it would be a 182, or prehaps a bodied 106 gti... :driver:
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So a 182 cup chassis over a 172 cup?
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I would have a Mini Cooper S for track fun :driver:
This is in pole position at the moment. JCW like this:
Will drive a 172 cup and a 182 cup chassis as well over the next 2 weekends, then make a decision.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201310139264583/sort/datedesc/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/price-to/5000/model/hatch_cooper_s/make/mini/onesearchad/used/radius/1500/atcide/emc-cars-SSA009/saved-search-id/2c92181e414f19570141591a4c0c0010/postcode/gu33hn/searchcontext/alert/keywords/JCW/page/1/alert-email-date/20131026?logcode=p
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How about a clio trophy...
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Another vote for a Clio here, I had a 172 and absolutely loved it only got rid cos I needed more space or I'd probably still have it. I'm seriously considering a 182 or early 197 for my run about car.
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Would be mini for me. Wife had a 2005 with lsd and with that super charger wining away and the go kart handling, I think it's the most fun I've ever had in a car
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A bit over your budget but I would suggest this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ford/puma/ford-racing-puma--458-16v--150bhp/1840242
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Modern classic that Puma now and getting harder and harder to find. Came from the same Tickford factory as the RS500 and RS200 IIRC.
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No question it has to be a DC2 Integra Type-R, the chassis is simply stunning and you can drive everywhere at 9 tenths.
Owned a 205gti and a Clio Williams and the Honda was better in every way :happy2:
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No question it has to be a DC2 Integra Type-R, the chassis is simply stunning and you can drive everywhere at 9 tenths.
Owned a 205gti and a Clio Williams and the Honda was better in every way :happy2:
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These Clios have been around a while and must be getting a little bit soft now. The Hondas keep on performing right into the 100k+ miles