MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: celica on November 03, 2013, 01:49:36 pm
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Had a go in one, gearbox in sport and electronic in sport mode
My gosh its really good
Drove mk5 gti manual and thought it was nippy but bit dull and flat
The noise was also very nice to match
What have they done from mkv to mk7 to make it so much better?
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Mk7 has 220ps and 258 lb/ft, 0-60 6.5 secs
Mkv ed30 is 230ps and 221 lb/ft, 0-60 6.6secs
Does the mk7 run a ko4 turbo?
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Very limited information on what turbo is on a Mk7 GTI
someone took a picture from a show but doesnt really tell anyone much..
It would probably be an IHI turbo as used on the mk6 tsi onwards..
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Yes, it is an IHI turbo. :happy2:
The MKVII is a totally different chassis to the MKV and uses the new MQB chassis module that is both stiffer and lighter than the MKV chassis, so overall the MKVII is around 60kg lighter. Combine that with more power and torque and it will feel much better. The MKVII you drove also could also have the performance pack and adaptive chassis control, which add to the driving experience. :happy2:
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How much does the mk7 weigh John?
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Yes, it is an IHI turbo. :happy2:
The MKVII is a totally different chassis to the MKV and uses the new MQB chassis module that is both stiffer and lighter than the MKV chassis, so overall the MKVII is around 60kg lighter. Combine that with more power and torque and it will feel much better. The MKVII you drove also could also have the performance pack and adaptive chassis control, which add to the driving experience. :happy2:
When I test drove one with the adaptive chassis but no performance pack, it really was a revelation.
However - most of a cars handling and response are in it's bushes. So who's to say that a BRAND NEW Mk5 wouldn't handle "similarly".
To be fair for the breadth of ability of the car the asking price suddenly becomes less steep. Yes you can buy a 135m for the same money (basically) but just because it's got 100bhp more, doesn't necessarily make it a faster car over a country road, or a nice place to sit (the inside of the 1-series is like Eeores bottom)
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Have you sat in an f20/21?
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Have you sat in an f20/21?
Guy at work has a 116d.
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Mk7 GTi is pants on the track :signLOL:
Fifth gear and Mr Tiff thinks is Poo :signLOL:
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No it didn't have performance pack
I didn't take note of the on screen changes that can be made as found gearbox in sport and mode sport on dash was good
60kg lighter than mk5
Ihi turbo, what's that versus ko4 say on ed30
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Isn't the IHI a smaller turbo than the K03 and K04? More to do with a better head design.
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No it didn't have performance pack
I didn't take note of the on screen changes that can be made as found gearbox in sport and mode sport on dash was good
60kg lighter than mk5
Ihi turbo, what's that versus ko4 say on ed30
Turbo is not the be all and end all in cars power you know
Reports are about 300bhp from a remap on a Mk7 in Europe..
http://drivingspirit.com/hg-motorsport-golf-gti-mk7/
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Mk7 GTi is pants on the track :signLOL:
Fifth gear and Mr Tiff thinks is Poo :signLOL:
One persons opinion Steve.
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Mk7 GTi is pants on the track :signLOL:
Fifth gear and Mr Tiff thinks is Poo :signLOL:
One persons opinion Steve.
Where did I say it wasn't?? :confused: :stupid:
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Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.
One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"...... :confused:
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No it didn't have performance pack
I didn't take note of the on screen changes that can be made as found gearbox in sport and mode sport on dash was good
60kg lighter than mk5
Ihi turbo, what's that versus ko4 say on ed30
Turbo is not the be all and end all in cars power you know
Reports are about 300bhp from a remap on a Mk7 in Europe..
http://drivingspirit.com/hg-motorsport-golf-gti-mk7/
That's not just a remap though bud, that reads that it's Stage 2 hardware and map making 289bhp; better than K03 but something any healthy Mk5 K04 can make with just a map.
I very much doubt the tiny IHI Turbo could puff out enough to keep up with a Stage 2+ K04, even if the head design is better.
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I keep reading the mk7 GTI is lighter than the mk5GTI but is it? I thought when I compared the original quotes figures it wasnt. Maybe it is when actuallt measured? :sad1:
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Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.
One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"...... :confused:
Oh please!!! Give me a break.. Tiff is a well respected Racing driver, and his verdict of a car on the limit is worth considering if buying a mk7 GTi to maybe eventually modify..
It still is pants on track..
Watch the video for yourself, you can see the brakes are continually trying to straighten up the car.
I would be happy, as he says the Edition 30 was much better and Vw have ruined a good car.
:wink:
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Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.
One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"...... :confused:
if tiff says its pants then it is pants ...end of
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No it didn't have performance pack
I didn't take note of the on screen changes that can be made as found gearbox in sport and mode sport on dash was good
60kg lighter than mk5
Ihi turbo, what's that versus ko4 say on ed30
Turbo is not the be all and end all in cars power you know
Reports are about 300bhp from a remap on a Mk7 in Europe..
http://drivingspirit.com/hg-motorsport-golf-gti-mk7/
That's not just a remap though bud, that reads that it's Stage 2 hardware and map making 289bhp; better than K03 but something any healthy Mk5 K04 can make with just a map.
I very much doubt the tiny IHI Turbo could puff out enough to keep up with a Stage 2+ K04, even if the head design is better.
Stage 2 is only hardware like an intercooler, intake and exhaust my man. Think it even says so in the text ;)
When HG Motorsport first strapped the GTI to their dyno the results were susprising, because in stock form the GTI actually recorded 239HP and and 359NM, significantly up on Volkswagen’s quoted figures.
It all starts off at Stage 1, which uses a carbon air intake, Bull-X sports exhaust and HF Series intercooler to liberate 263HP and 376Nm from the turbocharged 2.0-litre.
Moving on to Stage 2, HG then remap the GTI’s ECU. The result is 289HP and 405Nm.
The final stage requires more serious optimisation of the ECU to squeeze the last few drops from the GTI’s powerplant. Sadly there aren’t any performance figures but it’s safe to say you’d notice the difference, even at just Stage 1.
Read more at http://drivingspirit.com/hg-motorsport-golf-gti-mk7/#UiYxREgLhyc35Pjj.99/quote]
So it did, surprisingly..
Turbos are not the be all and end all like I said. A smaller housing can still have larger (relative to size) turbines .. doubt they are actually any smaller than the k03s , combined with better airflow...
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Reports are about 300bhp from a remap on a Mk7 in Europe..
It's not making ~300bhp on just a map which is what you originally stated bud. :happy2:
K04 FTW :pomppomp:
Now, strap a K04 to the TSI engine... :party: (although probably wouldn't bolt up)
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argh. a technicality. :P
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Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.
One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"...... :confused:
Oh please!!! Give me a break.. Tiff is a well respected Racing driver, and his verdict of a car on the limit is worth considering if buying a mk7 GTi to maybe eventually modify..
It still is pants on track..
Watch the video for yourself, you can see the brakes are continually trying to straighten up the car.
I would be happy, as he says the Edition 30 was much better and Vw have ruined a good car.
:wink:
Drivel!! As per usual!! You wouldn't know a decent handling car if it came down and knocked you off your ladders!!!
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fortunatley the Mk7 i'm thinking of allows you to completely turn off the driver aids and has a race mode
interesting having driven 5/6/7 back to back i'd agree the 7 is to planted but point to point was quicker over my favourite B road despite having least amount of power, 300 miles showed it was the better car, however, whether it felt special is a totally different argument
end of the day not everyone wants a Megane RS, M135 or a car built in 2007 but at least make a decision when you've driven one
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Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.
One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"...... :confused:
Oh please!!! Give me a break.. Tiff is a well respected Racing driver, and his verdict of a car on the limit is worth considering if buying a mk7 GTi to maybe eventually modify..
It still is pants on track..
Watch the video for yourself, you can see the brakes are continually trying to straighten up the car.
I would be happy, as he says the Edition 30 was much better and Vw have ruined a good car.
:wink:
Drivel!! As per usual!! You wouldn't know a decent handling car if it came down and knocked you off your ladders!!!
In your own opinion :P
Go blow your own trumpet fella... Oh hang on a minute....
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:signLOL: wrong instrument. But I'll let you off.
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:signLOL: wrong instrument. But I'll let you off.
Whatever it is you blow, I know you enjoy it :notworthy:
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I couldn't care less about its track manners as that isn't somewhere I am likely to drive it, but if its electronic safety nets stop me or the actions of others from an accident then I am all for them.
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:signLOL: wrong instrument. But I'll let you off.
Whatever it is you blow, I know you enjoy it :notworthy:
I do.... Problem?
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But the Mk5 when stock is also pants on track!! If ou bought a car based on its track manners you wouldnt own a GTI
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Think the only thing I don't like is the electric hand brake why are they fitting these
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:signLOL: wrong instrument. But I'll let you off.
Whatever it is you blow, I know you enjoy it :notworthy:
I do.... Problem?
I don't have the problem rich ... :indifferent:
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:signLOL: wrong instrument. But I'll let you off.
Whatever it is you blow, I know you enjoy it :notworthy:
I do.... Problem?
I don't have the problem rich ... :indifferent:
Doesn't sound like it....