MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: GTI-Ross on November 07, 2013, 03:26:05 pm
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Looking to get 2 new front tyres ( one has a screw in it). Now i know you shouldnt cheap out on rubber, but just before Christmas, Tax due and insurance renewal, I need a semi-cheap tyre.
Looking to get some opinions, so please leave suggestion below. can stretch to £120 if needed.
And also, best place to buy.
Thanks
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Michelin PS3 @ Costco if you have one near by £120-£125 fitted...
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's, think they're £100 from Camskill and are a really good tyre!
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's, think they're £100 from Camskill and are a really good tyre!
x2 :happy2:
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after looking on ebay, there are quite a fair good sets that only parts worn with 6+ mil on them for cheap and have very good feedback, may go down that route.
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I'd go for brand new AS2's mate - or if you have Winter in mind some Goodyear UG8P's :happy2:
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Can't Beat a Vredestein Sessanta.
Very very good in the dry, AMAZING in the wet and work very well for a summer tyre in the snow.
£75 a corner in 17s from Camskill
As you don't post tyre size (WHY??? as 18s cost more obviously..) I will assume that's what you have ;)
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after looking on ebay, there are quite a fair good sets that only parts worn with 6+ mil on them for cheap and have very good feedback, may go down that route.
I got 4 Pirelli P Zero Nero's in 215/40/18 for my new wheels for about £150 part worn!
They were from 2 different sellers but both sets have 7mm on them... This might not be to everyone's taste and obviously isn't the standard size for 18" on a mk5 but if you now what your looking at then its a good way to get cheap good quality tyres.
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Can't Beat a Vredestein Sessanta.
Very very good in the dry, AMAZING in the wet and work very well for a summer tyre in the snow.
£75 a corner in 17s from Camskill
As you don't post tyre size (WHY??? as 18s cost more obviously..) I will assume that's what you have ;)
I second that, have these on my car, very good.
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Bromsgrove midlands. Yokahammas C drive 17" for £80 18" for £105
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I've had Falkens & now on Nankangs - surprising enough the Nankangs are actually alright. Not found their limit yet!!! Paid £54 a tyre (215/45/18's)
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Can't Beat a Vredestein Sessanta.
Very very good in the dry, AMAZING in the wet and work very well for a summer tyre in the snow.
£75 a corner in 17s from Camskill
As you don't post tyre size (WHY??? as 18s cost more obviously..) I will assume that's what you have ;)
I'd avoid the 18's as these get very noisy once you wear past 50% tread.
Have had 2 sets of these and had enough.
Have gone onto Goodyear Eagle f1 Asym 2's and these are much better and a lot quieter.They offer equal grip to the Vreds in all conditions.
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As your in bradford west yorks, check out clickontyres in shipley, you'll get goodyear eagle f1's fitted at approx £114 a corner and im sure there is still a fuel voucher offer on which will compensate the cost. :happy2:
http://www.clickontyres.co.uk/buy-tyres-online/?ct-tyre-finder-width=225&ct-tyre-finder-profile=40&ct-tyre-finder-diameter=18&ct-tyre-finder-speed=Y#refine=true&page_ids=86,&price_min=60&sizes=225-40-18-Y&rows=12
prices plus fitting, so £113.78 a corner, then £40 fuel voucher for two 18" tyres, so about the same as fitting part worns. :drinking:
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Ross, for your everyday 225/40/18 tyres?
To run during both the Summer and Winter look at the Goodyear Eagle F1 2's £105. Peeps keep telling me to get the Michelin Pilot Super Sport £120 although these are only available at Load Rating 88 at the moment and are more Summer tyres I'm led to believe.
For Winters have a look at the Nokian WRG2's £128 or Goodyear Ultragrip 8 £135.
Get them from one of the below (click the site name) Pretty much all the same and they all do a "we can match any price" thingy too so look at getting them from......
lovetyres.com (http://lovetyres.com/search/tyres/225-40-18)
camskill.co.uk (http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b0s2166p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_18_inch_R18_inch_-_205_40_18_205_40R18)
tyre-shopper.co.uk (http://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/?partner=google&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Sitelinks%20TyreShopper&utm_term=tyreshopper%20-e&gclid=COfUwvW707oCFVMbtAodNVgAGw)
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Can get the Nokian WR D3 for £118 delivered or the Goodyear UG8P for £128 delivered... my preference is the Goodyears (having used the Performance 2 versions for two winters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kDF41nTJuk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUn0ix9XzUeOZeGfTObk8SJw)), as the Nokians seem to have artificial reviews atm.
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As your in bradford west yorks, check out clickontyres in shipley, you'll get goodyear eagle f1's fitted at approx £114 a corner and im sure there is still a fuel voucher offer on which will compensate the cost. :happy2:
http://www.clickontyres.co.uk/buy-tyres-online/?ct-tyre-finder-width=225&ct-tyre-finder-profile=40&ct-tyre-finder-diameter=18&ct-tyre-finder-speed=Y#refine=true&page_ids=86,&price_min=60&sizes=225-40-18-Y&rows=12
prices plus fitting, so £113.78 a corner, then £40 fuel voucher for two 18" tyres, so about the same as fitting part worns. :drinking:
got any more details on this deal?
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Falkens n nankangs brave man haha.
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As your in bradford west yorks, check out clickontyres in shipley, you'll get goodyear eagle f1's fitted at approx £114 a corner and im sure there is still a fuel voucher offer on which will compensate the cost. :happy2:
http://www.clickontyres.co.uk/buy-tyres-online/?ct-tyre-finder-width=225&ct-tyre-finder-profile=40&ct-tyre-finder-diameter=18&ct-tyre-finder-speed=Y#refine=true&page_ids=86,&price_min=60&sizes=225-40-18-Y&rows=12
prices plus fitting, so £113.78 a corner, then £40 fuel voucher for two 18" tyres, so about the same as fitting part worns. :drinking:
got any more details on this deal?
check out the website :signLOL:
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Can't Beat a Vredestein Sessanta.
Very very good in the dry, AMAZING in the wet and work very well for a summer tyre in the snow.
£75 a corner in 17s from Camskill
As you don't post tyre size (WHY??? as 18s cost more obviously..) I will assume that's what you have ;)
I'd avoid the 18's as these get very noisy once you wear past 50% tread.
Have had 2 sets of these and had enough.
Have gone onto Goodyear Eagle f1 Asym 2's and these are much better and a lot quieter.They offer equal grip to the Vreds in all conditions.
HMMMM No they don't. And the Eagles are not quite as good as the Vreds in the rain and in the winter it's not even a competition the Sessantas will keep going where the Eagles will be spinning.
I have 215/35/18 Sessantas as well as the 225/45s I've ran on my old TDI and I've just got new 215/40 and 225/45 17s for my winters. The 18's have done about 7k and I still have about 3/4 of the tread left on the fronts. Considering I am on air ride so my geometery is ALWAYS changing , I'd say they don't wear out faster and are no noiser than similar tyres.
Just my 2c ;)
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My friend rates his Vreds, I'm new to Goodyear Eagle F1s, but lots of friends have these on S3s etc seem to rate them highly. I'll be keeping them on the 18" and using them when I go (if) I go 19"
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's, think they're £100 from Camskill and are a really good tyre!
x2 :happy2:
x3
but £94.81 + £8 delivery so £197.62 total. + Fitting and balancing. from lovetyres.com (http://lovetyres.com)
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Narrowed it down to the 2 then:
F1 Asym or Vredestein Sessanta - Need to pick by tomorrow - the only thing putting me of the Sessanta if the fuel rating - its an F (sames as winter tyres) :scared:
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Can't say I've noticed anything bad with the Sessantas RE fuel...the EU tyre rating stuff is all crap, the same tyres in different load ratings get different wet braking results... ahahahahhahahahaahhahahaahahahahahahahahah :star: :star:
You will get more people saying Eagle Assy 2 because more people have tried it. How many have had both tyres? More to the point who's really heard of Vredestein.
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I've had both and much preferred the Eagle F1's, better grip and I found the Vredestein's were a little soft and wore out too quickly
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Not a fan of the Vredestein's, underwhelming tyres in my experience. Had them on my previous GTI and when I bought the Eddy I needed new tyres (all round) so after some recommendations I got a set of GY F1 2's and they've lasted for over 2 years, will need new fronts soon after 16k miles.
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I've had both too, the vred's are a good tyre but the goodyear's get it for me. Better dry and wet handling and last longer :happy2:
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Ive had both, initailly the vred's were fine good all round grip, but half way life they became noisy and lost lots of grip. Now running eagle f1 asy 2's, much quiter tyre, so far very happy and worked out cheaper with the fuel card!!!! :signLOL:
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I've just had all four tyres on my Ed30 replaced with Goodyear Eagle Assy 2's and have now got them scrubbed in.
To start with, I noticed a huge reduction in noise from them compared to the BF Goodrich ditchfinders that were on the front and also they seemed to improve fuel efficiency significantly.
Now that it's been a month or so of use, I can safely say that on some road surfaces they rumble a bit but all in all, I would rate them quite highly.;D
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Can't say I've noticed anything bad with the Sessantas RE fuel...the EU tyre rating stuff is all crap, the same tyres in different load ratings get different wet braking results... ahahahahhahahahaahhahahaahahahahahahahahah :star: :star:
You will get more people saying Eagle Assy 2 because more people have tried it. How many have had both tyres? More to the point who's really heard of Vredestein.
Jay has a very valid point, I alike many other can confirm that the Eagle Assy 2's are very good tyres but I can only compare them to the likes of yoko and toyo.
Looks wise F1's are gorgeous mind you!
Old man has Vreds on his GTO and rates them!
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^^^^ everyone (so far) in this thread who've had both the Goodyear's and the Vredestein's rate the GY's as better tyres out of the 2 in question, it's not the other way round.
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^^^^ everyone (so far) in this thread who've had both the Goodyear's and the Vredestein's rate the GY's as better tyres out of the 2 in question, it's not the other way round.
All 2 people of them..
Ultimately I had both tyres on my old TDI with 365lbft of torque. I did drive it hard (in retrospect stupidly hard for the road, I could have easily wrote the car off), drag race it and all of that.
to ME and my understanding of how the car behaved the Vreds were better overall. In the dry the Eagles perhaps had just a teeny bit more grip but that's at stupid racecar speeds, in the wet the Vreds would cling on far better and in the snow the Vreds would walk all over the Sessantas.
That is my opinion.
Now if someone says that they think the Eagles are better, and they've had both - that's their opinion. That is not to say that either one of us is right - It's subjective.
The only way to verify is for OP to try both. ;)
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^^^^ everyone (so far) in this thread who've had both the Goodyear's and the Vredestein's rate the GY's as better tyres out of the 2 in question, it's not the other way round.
All 2 people of them..
Ultimately I had both tyres on my old TDI with 365lbft of torque. I did drive it hard (in retrospect stupidly hard for the road, I could have easily wrote the car off), drag race it and all of that.
to ME and my understanding of how the car behaved the Vreds were better overall. In the dry the Eagles perhaps had just a teeny bit more grip but that's at stupid racecar speeds, in the wet the Vreds would cling on far better and in the snow the Vreds would walk all over the Sessantas.
That is my opinion.
Now if someone says that they think the Eagles are better, and they've had both - that's their opinion. That is not to say that either one of us is right - It's subjective.
The only way to verify is for OP to try both. ;)
How have you found the wear on the Vredesteins? I need new fronts on ours and am considering the same two tyres, but also Pirelli P Zero Asimmetrico. I'm tempted to try some of the Vredesteins based on your comments about being better in the snow, but need something that will wear well too.
Cheers mate!
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I got 20k out of the fronts on my TDI (as I mentioned I drove very hard, lots of wheel spins!)
I've just this lunchtime swapped my Mercs for my RC's and I'd say I've gone down about 3mm tread on the fronts since fitting them in July - About 8k done since then.
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Thanks for all the input guys, i ended up going for the Eagles as they had them in and did a deal at £110 per corner fitted and ballanced. so done deal.
Do will defo try the Vred in future on Jays review :drinking:
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:happy2: :happy2:
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I got 20k out of the fronts on my TDI (as I mentioned I drove very hard, lots of wheel spins!)
I've just this lunchtime swapped my Mercs for my RC's and I'd say I've gone down about 3mm tread on the fronts since fitting them in July - About 8k done since then.
Cool, that's good to know then! Reckon I'll give them a try!
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I too have had both,assy 2,s which I had fitted to my previous eddy and vreds on the current car, even had the GY,s on the current car as I swapped the wheels to see which to buy as I already had two vreds fitted and couldn't make my mind up whether to buy a pair to match the vreds or get a set of four of something else, in the end the vreds won out but only because of A: I didn't want to nick the wheels of my other eddy because they had been refurbed and B: made more financial sense to buy just a pair.
At the time the vreds were quieter,but only by a nads, the GY,s seemed more confidence inspiring and looked better, However to be honest neither were anything more than decent mid price tyres for general driving use, of the two, if you rag it then its GY's every time imo.
However.... now I have lived with the vreds for 17k miles I wouldn't buy or recommend them again, agree with some of the above comments that after 50% worn they are now quite noisy and have lost quite a bit of grip ( which is understandable ),
When I come to buy again it will be neither of those two, it will be a Michelin without any hesitation, but I will add that a customer of mine has Dunlop sport maxx RT's on a merc In our 224/40/18 size and they are up there with the best aswell.
My advice to you having been in your situation is to buy whatever pair of tyres that you would like to have all four of in the future and buy the best you can afford, so if you can stretch to a Premium brand then go for it.
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I ran Asym 2s on my 17" wheels for a year (not XL).
I had them fitted at the same time as having Koni FSDs put on, and immediately I found a problem. I could not keep the car within a lane on a motorway. There was a huge amount of play straight ahead - once turning the grip came back well in the wet and dry, but there was a 1" movement on the steering wheel before anything happened. Any gust of wind veered the car off line. You could not steer the car with one hand. It felt like I had loads of toe-out, scary! They gave me no confidence at all.
Initially I was sure it was the suspension and thought something went wrong during the fitting (sorry Jim). I had two separate full aligns done and had it checked by VW as well as getting the local garage to give me more toe-in. I had run 5 sets of GSD3s on my Mk4 and really rated the Goodyears on that car but did have one rogue tyre that took a year to find.
I then started to experiment with tyre pressures and found I could notice one psi difference - it was the soft tyre walls!
On the fronts they gave the vague steering and on the back it felt like you were getting random rear wheel steer. I had to run over- pressure to stop it hopping like a kangaroo round corners and to stop the back of the car randomly falling away. The over-pressure made the ride even rougher than usual ( I put on the FSDs because they were brilliant on the Mk4, but they don't do much to soften the Mk5, -I don't do track days and most of my time is on the horrid M27, I like some suspension).
Even with 2 psi over-pressure there was a feeling of toe-out, any more pressure and it went from sloppy steering to like driving on ice. I swapped tyres front to back to no effect, and only noticed a slight difference when front to back and left to right. As they are Asym not directional this surprised me as a bad bias should have been seen in the front to back swap - were two of them rogue?
I had not read anything but praise for the Goodyears on this forum and was really surprised with them. There was a tyre test in the States that mentioned this vagueness in the steering but nothing anywhere else. I guess most of you are on 18" and it seems they made that tyre react better, plus people talk about using the XL version. There are therefore 4 different versions of the tyre on our cars and they all react differently.
I changed them to PS3s in the Summer and got my steering back!
My subjective view on the PS3 is that they take 500 miles to bed in. The steering feel is streets ahead but the ride quality and grip on the limits is less than the Asym2. I cannot comment on the wear rate yet. I do miss the extra grip that the Asyms had on the limit (as long as you are not 1/2 psi low), but do not miss the fear of a windy day!
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I've had Falkens & now on Nankangs - surprising enough the Nankangs are actually alright. Not found their limit yet!!! Paid £54 a tyre (215/45/18's)
A £54 budget tyre on a gti is crazy in my opinion.
Why have an expensive car then put budget tyres on? I never understand this.
They'll give up when you least expect it.
Get some proper rubber on there.
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just a slight revival revival on the thread.
Im after a pair of tyres of the ED30 with the same sort of budget as the OP. I already have the Vreds and fancy a change.
Clickontyres are currently doing:
Michelin Pilot Super Sport 3 for £92 each (after the £40 Michelin fuel offer) + delivery
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Goodyear Eagle F1 (assymetric2) for £89 each (after Goodyear £20 fuel offer) +delivery
With the price difference being almost negligible, which should i go for?
Thanks
Rich
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just a slight revival revival on the thread.
Im after a pair of tyres of the ED30 with the same sort of budget as the OP. I already have the Vreds and fancy a change.
Clickontyres are currently doing:
Michelin Pilot Super Sport 3 for £92 each (after the £40 Michelin fuel offer) + delivery
or
Goodyear Eagle F1 (assymetric2) for £89 each (after Goodyear £20 fuel offer) +delivery
With the price difference being almost negligible, which should i go for?
Thanks
Rich
I am running both those tyres at the moment. PS3 on the g/f's Leon FR and the Eagle's on my ED30, with day to day use there is very little difference. I do find the ps3 a tad quieter on the Leon, the eagles just edge wet performance on roundabouts.
Cant recommend clickontyres enough, just had my winters fitted to some monza's yesterday. Great service, they were really busy, but said if i leave them come back in two hours he will have them done even though they had 5 cars waiting. Best bit no tyre fitting marks!!!! :signLOL:
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just a slight revival revival on the thread.
Im after a pair of tyres of the ED30 with the same sort of budget as the OP. I already have the Vreds and fancy a change.
Clickontyres are currently doing:
Michelin Pilot Super Sport 3 for £92 each (after the £40 Michelin fuel offer) + delivery
or
Goodyear Eagle F1 (assymetric2) for £89 each (after Goodyear £20 fuel offer) +delivery
With the price difference being almost negligible, which should i go for?
Thanks
Rich
I am running both those tyres at the moment. PS3 on the g/f's Leon FR and the Eagle's on my ED30, with day to day use there is very little difference. I do find the ps3 a tad quieter on the Leon, the eagles just edge wet performance on roundabouts.
Cant recommend clickontyres enough, just had my winters fitted to some monza's yesterday. Great service, they were really busy, but said if i leave them come back in two hours he will have them done even though they had 5 cars waiting. Best bit no tyre fitting marks!!!! :signLOL:
Thanks Froddo!
I am friendly with a local tyre place who will fit the new tyres, fit new valves and balancing for £5 per wheel.
Just found the PS3's cheaper on another website so will use the clickontyres price buster facility.
If they match it, im looking at £90 delivered for the PS3's.
Either way, ive come to the conclusion that i cant go wrong with either the PS3's or GY F1's..
Thanks
Rich
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Currently running PS3's on my edition 30 and they are a formidable tire BUT I have never tried the eagles that everyone raves on about...I've put the PS3's on my last 3 cars so I am some what biased :)
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just to keep the thread updated, I ordered the Michelin PS3's for £113 delivered. Have also submitted the my claim for a £40 fuel voucher from Michelin.
Will let you know how I get on...
Rich
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Just remember there are 4 different types of tyre for each different make for our car.
17"- 17"XL - 18" - 18"XL
So before you follow someone's advice when they say it works on their car, you need to know which one they are running.
I found the normal 17" Asym sidewall far too soft, causing steering and handling problems.
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I'd only ever recommend running an XL tyre these days
More support from pot holes (less likely to damage your tyre/wheel)
Better steering response (no spongey response and odd "rolling" sensations
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I have just had 4 Bridgestone pozenza s001 fitted for £450 all done
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Just a quick update but I've had the Vredestein's fitted for over a week now and am really impressed. Obviously it's early days but so far the ride is noticeably smoother, and the grip is increased. Oh and they look cool too :-)
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I know ultimately it comes down to performance but I must say looks are also a big part of the decision on new tyres for me & that's why Eagle F1's are so appealing!