The wheels are lifted from an R8 V10
he also said that its 100% FWD so no 4WD on the new R
Very much doubt its FWD with 270bhp :stupid:
maybe rear wheel drive ?
Very much doubt its FWD with 270bhp :stupid:
maybe rear wheel drive ?
Very much doubt its FWD with 270bhp :stupid:
maybe rear wheel drive ?
Erm.....
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Whats the TTRS got to do with anything?? is that not a 2.5?
According to the 'other' froum, several people have asked various dealers, all whom have confirmed it being FWD. :stupid:
According to the 'other' froum, several people have asked various dealers, all whom have confirmed it being FWD. :stupid:
I'm gonna stick my neck out and say it will be 4WD. I know the 'Rocco won't be, but I'm not sure that's a good thing to base a theory on, now is the time to make some differences between the 2 models 'fast' stable?
The A3/S3 is due for replacement soon, so no stealing sales worries there, it'll make more money for VAG if anything by using up the S3's platform for a while longer when it gets ditched for the MKIII. The A3 traditionally is the first application of the new platform - they've be developing what is to be the MKVII for it now and we won't see a new S3 probably until the MKVII arrives = plenty of space for the R20T in 4WD guise to breathe.
If the R20 is 2WD, then where's the headroom for GTI specials like the ED30??
The R brand has always been a very marked difference to the GTI one and I can't see them allowing the 2 to become so similar. It also goes back a bit further than people think. The Rallye was never a GTI, the VR6 syncro (sadly never imported to the UK) was never a GTI, the R32 was never a GTI.... the new R will not be a rebadged GTI.
very true
I'm sorry Mike (Tony Danza), but your theory is a little flawed.
You only have to look at the Scirocco TSI and the Scirocco R to see where VW are going with the R20. I agree in the sense that the R has always been marked out as a different demographic brand to the GTI, but when has VW ever been known to give us what WE want!
The R20 SHOULD be a 4WD 2.5 litre turbo charged car with 300+bhp if we had our way, but as we all know VW has been cutting it's cost base over the last few years and so a dedicated haldex 4WD based car would push it away from this current ethos and I for one will stick my neck out in the opposite direction to say it will be FWD and 2.0TFSI with the K04, tweaked internals, the E-diff, adjustable suspension and will be the first MKVI to have Xenons. :wink:
I'm sorry Mike (Tony Danza), but your theory is a little flawed.
You only have to look at the Scirocco TSI and the Scirocco R to see where VW are going with the R20. I agree in the sense that the R has always been marked out as a different demographic brand to the GTI, but when has VW ever been known to give us what WE want!
The R20 SHOULD be a 4WD 2.5 litre turbo charged car with 300+bhp if we had our way, but as we all know VW has been cutting it's cost base over the last few years and so a dedicated haldex 4WD based car would push it away from this current ethos and I for one will stick my neck out in the opposite direction to say it will be FWD and 2.0TFSI with the K04, tweaked internals, the E-diff, adjustable suspension and will be the first MKVI to have Xenons. :wink:
I agree John, apart from the Xenon's bit as the current MkVI GTI has them as an option :smiley:
Seeing as they are taking deposits i expect they are correct mate.
The R20 SHOULD be a 4WD 2.5 litre turbo charged car
Seeing as they are taking deposits i expect they are correct mate.
Well considering I have two completed orders for R20's and neither the dealers or VW uk can give any info, I'd say the vote is still out on this one- it'll just work so much better as 4wd, in my view.
Looks like we'll have to wait and see as the consensous is divided!!!
The S3 is not exactly revered as an exciting drive in standard form is it, where the GTI is, so maybe it's auf weidersehen(sp) 4WD and V6. :sad1:
The wheels are lifted from an R8 V10
....I still think they look Gash. Also Bling!
:happy2: [Not long until my LeggyRita wheels come!]
Agreed on the S3 comments, just souless to drive
[Looks like we'll have to wait and see as the consensous is divided!!!
Agreed on the S3 comments, just souless to drive
....Unless, of course, you heavily mod them it seems. Jonnyc's being the most extreme example.
I'm not sure that the S3 owners on this forum would agree though.
Found this the other day,
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/09/insider-vw-r32-successor-270hp-golf-r.html
I'm sorry Mike (Tony Danza), but your theory is a little flawed.
You only have to look at the Scirocco TSI and the Scirocco R to see where VW are going with the R20. I agree in the sense that the R has always been marked out as a different demographic brand to the GTI, but when has VW ever been known to give us what WE want!
The R20 SHOULD be a 4WD 2.5 litre turbo charged car with 300+bhp if we had our way, but as we all know VW has been cutting it's cost base over the last few years and so a dedicated haldex 4WD based car would push it away from this current ethos and I for one will stick my neck out in the opposite direction to say it will be FWD and 2.0TFSI with the K04, tweaked internals, the E-diff, adjustable suspension and will be the first MKVI to have Xenons. :wink:
The S3 is soulless, its engine is boring and its too 'audi'. Its not its haldex that ruins it.
Other than being more powerful its not superior in anyway to the R32? Its much less sporty feeling, the engine is incredibly boring, the noise is mediocre and the interior is very 'audi'. Its a boring car. Standard vs standard there is nothing in it with the S3 and R32.Interior very audi? Thats a bad thing? R32 interior is very VW, and between the two I think most would opt for the audi. I think the R32 engine is boring, it was always designed to be a relaxed engine, not a racer, but yes it does sound nice.
Im not aware of a single flaw in the R32? Other than a slightly high mpg figure?
Of course they are testing the 2.5 in the audi, its going to be the RS3.
Cant be bothered to get into this with someone who doesnt own either
^^^^ :laugh:
I don't care two figs which is faster etc - I'd rather hear a V6 every day (on Milltek of course).
I wish I'd started a book betting on whether the R20 wil be FWD or 4WD!
:evilgrin:
Cant be bothered to get into this with someone who doesnt own either
You cant deny the facts, trouble is mate, I own a cupra, my mate had a r32 DSG until recently, and have another mate who has a s3 with DSG so I have plenty of experience with all 3 cars. The r32 is the slowest of the 3 once rolling. Cupra slowest standing start, around slow corners and damp or wet conditions. S3 with DSG is easily the quickest standard vs a std cupra, but with both the s3 mapped and the Cupra mapped the gap closes tremendously. DSG still gives the S3 a slight advantage, cupra is slightly quicker in a straight line, but the DSG of the S3 takes that back.
You dont own a S3 so should people just disregard your opinion because of it? I base my opinions on my own real life experiences along with what the major publications write.
The mk5 R32 didn't go down brilliantly in the motoring press. Heavy and no faster than a standard 200ps gti. Reviews always followed the lines of, a good car with a nice soundtrack, but we'd take a GTI, more nimble, more special.
Bring remaps into it and loads more torque and a lot less weight and the R32 can't compete unless its wet. I for one take it easy in the wet so being 4wd wouldn't make a difference to me.
If someone came along and offered me a no cost swap then I'd think long and hard. But, slower (v's remapped GTI's), thirstier, higher tax, higher insurance and a jaws front end makes it a no brainer for me.
I don't really mind to much whether it's FWD or 4WD. They both have there advantages and disadvantages IMO.
FWD won't be as nimble off the line as 4WD obviously, but with the technology these days 270-300bhp can still be deployed through front wheels without spitting you into a tree, just look at the new RS. Plus if FWD it will be at least 100kgs lighter and quicker once on the move.
But 4WD won't be a bad thing either so long as they don't make it a 1500kg fat kid. Either way I can seriously see me ordering one as my next motor come end of 2010 when i'm due for change.. :wink:
Yeah the engine on the .:R definately makes a difference no doubt, but so does the 4wd too mate. Just look at the weight difference between the S3 and a 2.0T A3 (FWD). The .:R is nearly 200kgs heavier than a standard GTI and i'm pretty sure that is not just down to the V6.. :wink:I don't really mind to much whether it's FWD or 4WD. They both have there advantages and disadvantages IMO.
FWD won't be as nimble off the line as 4WD obviously, but with the technology these days 270-300bhp can still be deployed through front wheels without spitting you into a tree, just look at the new RS. Plus if FWD it will be at least 100kgs lighter and quicker once on the move.
But 4WD won't be a bad thing either so long as they don't make it a 1500kg fat kid. Either way I can seriously see me ordering one as my next motor come end of 2010 when i'm due for change.. :wink:
The 32's weight it more the engine mate, haldex is not that heavy! Fingers crossed anyway. If not i think its either a 335i or new range rover sport next :drool:
I'm refering to actual motoring press, not a supplement in a newspaper. Top gear yes, but also Evo, autoexpress, autocar, what car, parkers. You clearly love your car but once moving it cannot match a remapped standard gti, standard or remapped ed30. Take into account transmission losses through the 4wd and then the added weight, the power to weight ratio tells the true story.
Yeah the engine on the .:R definately makes a difference no doubt, but so does the 4wd too mate. Just look at the weight difference between the S3 and a 2.0T A3 (FWD). The .:R is nearly 200kgs heavier than a standard GTI and i'm pretty sure that is not just down to the V6.. :wink:I don't really mind to much whether it's FWD or 4WD. They both have there advantages and disadvantages IMO.
FWD won't be as nimble off the line as 4WD obviously, but with the technology these days 270-300bhp can still be deployed through front wheels without spitting you into a tree, just look at the new RS. Plus if FWD it will be at least 100kgs lighter and quicker once on the move.
But 4WD won't be a bad thing either so long as they don't make it a 1500kg fat kid. Either way I can seriously see me ordering one as my next motor come end of 2010 when i'm due for change.. :wink:
The 32's weight it more the engine mate, haldex is not that heavy! Fingers crossed anyway. If not i think its either a 335i or new range rover sport next :drool:
Of course not mate, but as I said in my first post, it will be getting on for 100kg difference if 4WD is added IMO.. The other 100kgs on the .:R will be a combination of the engine, brakes etc as you say..Yeah the engine on the .:R definately makes a difference no doubt, but so does the 4wd too mate. Just look at the weight difference between the S3 and a 2.0T A3 (FWD). The .:R is nearly 200kgs heavier than a standard GTI and i'm pretty sure that is not just down to the V6.. :wink:I don't really mind to much whether it's FWD or 4WD. They both have there advantages and disadvantages IMO.
FWD won't be as nimble off the line as 4WD obviously, but with the technology these days 270-300bhp can still be deployed through front wheels without spitting you into a tree, just look at the new RS. Plus if FWD it will be at least 100kgs lighter and quicker once on the move.
But 4WD won't be a bad thing either so long as they don't make it a 1500kg fat kid. Either way I can seriously see me ordering one as my next motor come end of 2010 when i'm due for change.. :wink:
The 32's weight it more the engine mate, haldex is not that heavy! Fingers crossed anyway. If not i think its either a 335i or new range rover sport next :drool:
What about the extras? Im guessing bigger brakes and other extras would add a bit, i dont think the haldex weighs 200kg?
those pics just showed the start of the 1/4 mile, at the end Top Cats car was quicker by over a second I believe...Not sure about that James.. If you have a well driven .:R on the strip it will take chunks out of a standard GTI off the line that the GTI would never pull back.
even a stock GTi (none ed30) will be quicker down the strip than a stock r32
its just a heavy car mate, very nice but a bit lardy!
Spot on write up Oli :happy2: Right from the horses mouth as it were (not calling you a horse of course) :grin:
I'm refering to actual motoring press, not a supplement in a newspaper. Top gear yes, but also Evo, autoexpress, autocar, what car, parkers. You clearly love your car but once moving it cannot match a remapped standard gti, standard or remapped ed30. Take into account transmission losses through the 4wd and then the added weight, the power to weight ratio tells the true story.
Erm, you are aware my car is fwd while rolling? So not sure what transmission loss you mean? :stupid:
I own one mate and can tell you its quicker (marginally) than a mapped gti lol, most mapped gti owners will agree. Ed30 is a whole different story though.
Isnt topcats car remapped?
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I'm refering to actual motoring press, not a supplement in a newspaper. Top gear yes, but also Evo, autoexpress, autocar, what car, parkers. You clearly love your car but once moving it cannot match a remapped standard gti, standard or remapped ed30. Take into account transmission losses through the 4wd and then the added weight, the power to weight ratio tells the true story.
Erm, you are aware my car is fwd while rolling? So not sure what transmission loss you mean? :stupid:
I own one mate and can tell you its quicker (marginally) than a mapped gti lol, most mapped gti owners will agree. Ed30 is a whole different story though.
Isnt topcats car remapped?
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I'm refering to actual motoring press, not a supplement in a newspaper. Top gear yes, but also Evo, autoexpress, autocar, what car, parkers. You clearly love your car but once moving it cannot match a remapped standard gti, standard or remapped ed30. Take into account transmission losses through the 4wd and then the added weight, the power to weight ratio tells the true story.
Erm, you are aware my car is fwd while rolling? So not sure what transmission loss you mean? :stupid:
I own one mate and can tell you its quicker (marginally) than a mapped gti lol, most mapped gti owners will agree. Ed30 is a whole different story though.
Isnt topcats car remapped?
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Jules you make me laugh all you ever do is come on here and get your self all upset when anyone dare post something negative about a R 32.
We have 5 or 6 R 32 owners who dont bat an eyelid, and yet you just go through the same routine every time. Which always ends in you saying yet but i would like to see them take me on in the rain. :laugh:
just relax dude the R 32 is a great car no matter how many times you prove to us that its not. :happy2:
Oh and by the way in that run i beat the r 32 by well over a second. :pomppomp:
I'm refering to actual motoring press, not a supplement in a newspaper. Top gear yes, but also Evo, autoexpress, autocar, what car, parkers. You clearly love your car but once moving it cannot match a remapped standard gti, standard or remapped ed30. Take into account transmission losses through the 4wd and then the added weight, the power to weight ratio tells the true story.
Erm, you are aware my car is fwd while rolling? So not sure what transmission loss you mean? :stupid:
I own one mate and can tell you its quicker (marginally) than a mapped gti lol, most mapped gti owners will agree. Ed30 is a whole different story though.
Isnt topcats car remapped?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk284%2FGreenouse%2F_IGP0194.jpg&hash=b970d2dcec14cd02d54bc2fa3ff5dc3f451c4631)
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265 BHP and 4WD - flawed theory my arse....
Truck loads of win!!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109091421719/vw-golf-r-uncovered-ahead-of-frankfurt-debut
Yes, but that is TC driving....nuff said :PI'm refering to actual motoring press, not a supplement in a newspaper. Top gear yes, but also Evo, autoexpress, autocar, what car, parkers. You clearly love your car but once moving it cannot match a remapped standard gti, standard or remapped ed30. Take into account transmission losses through the 4wd and then the added weight, the power to weight ratio tells the true story.
Erm, you are aware my car is fwd while rolling? So not sure what transmission loss you mean? :stupid:
I own one mate and can tell you its quicker (marginally) than a mapped gti lol, most mapped gti owners will agree. Ed30 is a whole different story though.
Isnt topcats car remapped?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk284%2FGreenouse%2F_IGP0194.jpg&hash=b970d2dcec14cd02d54bc2fa3ff5dc3f451c4631)
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I thought this was a discussion on the R20 though :innocent:
265 BHP and 4WD - flawed theory my arse....
Truck loads of win!!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109091421719/vw-golf-r-uncovered-ahead-of-frankfurt-debut
265 BHP and 4WD - flawed theory my arse....
Truck loads of win!!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/109091421719/vw-golf-r-uncovered-ahead-of-frankfurt-debut
Good find!!!
Not sure on the performance figures though, 0-60 in 6.5??? surely they mean 5.5!
looks a bit too steady to me...bit like how the MK5 R32 was really. It doesn't look THAT much different to the normal run of the mill Golf's.
It says around 25 grand in the Auto car link. :happy2:
Prices and performance figs are basically not worth the paper they're written on for now, they'll stick anythng down just to have something
Hope there's some nice Recaro CS's and other such tastiness on the options list.
Prices and performance figs are basically not worth the paper they're written on for now, they'll stick anythng down just to have something
Hope there's some nice Recaro CS's and other such tastiness on the options list.
Are you taking the plunge Mike. :pomppomp:
like it and i like the rocco r but its not enough, or what i was hoping for so will be sticking to the eddie until they stick a ttrs engine in the golf :happy2:
I'd agree with you on that score. They couldn't have showed it in any other colour
It already is mike ;) you wouldnt want it in that fairy candy White colour do you? Haha
What is the spec then, does any one know. Is it the new engine in the golf or the old one with a KO 4 like the rocc :smiley:
What is the spec then, does any one know. Is it the new engine in the golf or the old one with a KO 4 like the rocc :smiley:
What is the spec then, does any one know. Is it the new engine in the golf or the old one with a KO 4 like the rocc :smiley:
same as S3/Roc R ...so older type with the K04 and 350bhp potential with HPFP/intake/exhaust :drool:
What is the spec then, does any one know. Is it the new engine in the golf or the old one with a KO 4 like the rocc :smiley:
same as S3/Roc R ...so older type with the K04 and 350bhp potential with HPFP/intake/exhaust :drool:
What is the spec then, does any one know. Is it the new engine in the golf or the old one with a KO 4 like the rocc :smiley:
is your deposit down?
I think that's down to the fact it's an R and not a GTI, I know that will sound very odd but the GTI brand just feels more special to me :smiley:
I am sticking with my current model for the foreseeable.
Its nearly ready for my track days next year so couldn't bare to see it leave.
I think it will be hard to resist once peeps start modding them though. :evilgrin:
Which is impossible! :signLOL:
4WD.....4WD.........4WD!!!!!!!!
OMFG!!!
Group buy :jumping:
Best thing is that my K04 extra bits would fit straight on the R20 for a stage 2+ and the ED30 could be stripped out properly :evilgrin:
There was me thinking of buying a VXR8 .... and looked at one today ! May have to pause and reconsider a little :drool:
thats nice!
my next car has to be a candy white affair, and most certainly contain two sexual recaro seats! i like it alot! just wish the rocco R had 4wd coz atm this has my vote slightly over the rocco!
can't wait to see a few of these modded! a right mean machine! hope the exhaust note is nice!
*Drools at the prospect of the active suspension and addition of a race Haldex controller....
Jules you make me laugh all you ever do is come on here and get your self all upset when anyone dare post something negative about a R 32.
We have 5 or 6 R 32 owners who dont bat an eyelid, and yet you just go through the same routine every time. Which always ends in you saying yet but i would like to see them take me on in the rain. :laugh:
just relax dude the R 32 is a great car no matter how many times you prove to us that its not. :happy2:
Oh and by the way in that run i beat the r 32 by well over a second. :pomppomp:
Autocar are morons mate. Haldex cant do that!
autocar do often hype things but i wouldnt rule it out being possible to put all the drive on the rear?
start saving boys - this thing is going to be north of £28k !!!!!
That will probably not include Sat Nav (c.£1250), Recaros (c.£1500 - as they are in the TTS), + other goodies
Also looks like there will be limited numbers available, so the residuals will be high for a coupel of years.
It is also quoted that it will weigh 35kg less than an R32 - anyone know what the 3/5 door weight is of an R32.
start saving boys - this thing is going to be north of £28k !!!!!1510 kgs for the R32 mate, so 1475kgs for the new R (heavier than the new RS and the old S3). Think i'll be picking up a brochure for the Rocco R instead if this is the case. Don't like to go to a slower car when I change.. :grin: Or dare I say it, a 135i.. :laugh: Well it is going to be cheaper than the Golf with the spec i'd want.. :surprised:
That will probably not include Sat Nav (c.£1250), Recaros (c.£1500 - as they are in the TTS), + other goodies
Also looks like there will be limited numbers available, so the residuals will be high for a coupel of years.
It is also quoted that it will weigh 35kg less than an R32 - anyone know what the 3/5 door weight is of an R32.
28500? thats a lot!Totally agree Jay. For that sort of money there is alot of other machinery that comes into play in that bracket..
28500? thats a lot!Totally agree Jay. For that sort of money there is alot of other machinery that comes into play in that bracket..
It might look the dogs bollocks. but those dogs bollocks dont look nice. :signLOL: :sick:Game of conkers anyone? :signLOL:
....
More pics, guys : - Gallery of R20 pics on VWvortex.... (http://www.vwvortex.com/gallery/gallery2.php?mode=album&album=/Volkswagen/Golf%20-%20GTI%20-%20Rabbit/Golf%20VI/Golf%20R)
Thanks to Snoopy Geoff :drinking:
A 125i? Wouldnt you need a 135i for 400bhp?You would. I considered a 135 for my next car. :driver: The weight put me off tough, for such a small car it's HEAVY. A 335 is only 40kg's more!
A 125i? Wouldnt you need a 135i for 400bhp?
Not amazingly light I know, but they seem to shift the weight with ease.. Like most performance BMW's, they seem to go a lot better than the power/weight suggests..A 125i? Wouldnt you need a 135i for 400bhp?You would. I considered a 135 for my next car. :driver: The weight put me off tough, for such a small car it's HEAVY. A 335 is only 40kg's more!
It would surely be insane to price it higher than the S3??
bmw are having alot of issues with the 3.0 twin turbo last time I was on the bmw forums. Considered getting a 335i instead of the leon, but the reliability issues and the not so stellar tuning options at the time put me off.
28 kiloquid? :scared:
Hitler would turn in his grave!
Fifth Gear Wednesday 16 September 2009
The Golf R’s output tops that of the front-wheel drive Scirocco R, but Volkswagen is pitching the Golf as a more extreme car. As a result the firm is keeping modest with its sales targets; just 500 models (three and five-door) per year in the UK.
Prices start from £28,500 when it goes on sale in October with first deliveries from January 2010.
Fifth Gear Wednesday 16 September 2009
The Golf R’s output tops that of the front-wheel drive Scirocco R, but Volkswagen is pitching the Golf as a more extreme car. As a result the firm is keeping modest with its sales targets; just 500 models (three and five-door) per year in the UK.
Prices start from £28,500 when it goes on sale in October with first deliveries from January 2010.
:confused: I thought they were using the same engine, just the Rocco was FWD? :confused: The Golf may be quicker out the blocks, but the Rocco will be quicker once moving. So not a great statement.. Then again, it is Fifth Gear.. :grin:
....DSG and Recaro's essential for me. I'd rather have the Golf R than a S3 but that's just my taste.
A couple from Volkswagen.de :notworthy:
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infact u could 4 mo a mk5 if you had the balls :laugh:clearly i havent :ashamed:
it looks nice but not for me thanks i love my ed30 too much pure and simple :laugh: and by the time u have spent all that money changing to the mk6 you could have done so much to your car and it would destroy that all day long :laugh: infact u could 4 mo a mk5 if you had the balls :laugh:
it looks nice but not for me thanks i love my ed30 too much pure and simple :laugh: and by the time u have spent all that money changing to the mk6 you could have done so much to your car and it would destroy that all day long :laugh: infact u could 4 mo a mk5 if you had the balls :laugh:
Would be cheaper to turbo an R32, more power and already 4motion :evilgrin:
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Have you gone off your Rocco, Andy? Yours is a very fine example. Personally I'm still not keen on the Rocco from certain angles but that's only my particular taste.
Thing is though guys regardless of cost this is the car that we have all been praying VW would make.
I never thought for one minute that it was going to be 26 - 27 grand. :party:
Once a few people have gone stage 2 + and they are flying up the strip. Then i guess we will all be selling kidneys. :rolleye:
Thing is though guys regardless of cost this is the car that we have all been praying VW would make.
I never thought for one minute that it was going to be 26 - 27 grand. :party:
Once a few people have gone stage 2 + and they are flying up the strip. Then i guess we will all be selling kidneys. :rolleye:
....If you or I ordered the new Golf R we'd deff be including Recaro's methinks. I've forgotten if your Mk5 is DSG or not, but you doubtless get my drift: The optional extras are guaranteed to add a few grand. And then there's one or two or three or four, mods!
Plus it's always wise to wait for a car to be out for about a year. So we are looking at 2011 perhaps. By which time I'll probably have hit 100k miles :laugh:
Thing is though guys regardless of cost this is the car that we have all been praying VW would make.
I never thought for one minute that it was going to be 26 - 27 grand. :party:
Once a few people have gone stage 2 + and they are flying up the strip. Then i guess we will all be selling kidneys. :rolleye:
Once a few people have gone stage 2 + and they are flying up the strip. Then i guess we will all be selling kidneys. :rolleye:
It's just been done by a friend of mine on his MK5 GTI. Will be on the road shortly.infact u could 4 mo a mk5 if you had the balls :laugh:clearly i havent :ashamed:
Good point though Matt :happy2:
It's just been done by a friend of mine on his MK5 GTI. Will be on the road shortly.infact u could 4 mo a mk5 if you had the balls :laugh:clearly i havent :ashamed:
Good point though Matt :happy2:
It's just been done by a friend of mine on his MK5 GTI. Will be on the road shortly.infact u could 4 mo a mk5 if you had the balls :laugh:clearly i havent :ashamed:
Good point though Matt :happy2:
Need details....
Cost
spec
who did the conversion
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It's just been done by a friend of mine on his MK5 GTI. Will be on the road shortly.infact u could 4 mo a mk5 if you had the balls :laugh:clearly i havent :ashamed:
Good point though Matt :happy2:
Need details....
Cost
spec
who did the conversion
:jumping:
Thing is though guys regardless of cost this is the car that we have all been praying VW would make.
I never thought for one minute that it was going to be 26 - 27 grand. :party:
Once a few people have gone stage 2 + and they are flying up the strip. Then i guess we will all be selling kidneys. :rolleye:
....If you or I ordered the new Golf R we'd deff be including Recaro's methinks. I've forgotten if your Mk5 is DSG or not, but you doubtless get my drift: The optional extras are guaranteed to add a few grand. And then there's one or two or three or four, mods!
Plus it's always wise to wait for a car to be out for about a year. So we are looking at 2011 perhaps. By which time I'll probably have hit 100k miles :laugh:
It's just been done by a friend of mine on his MK5 GTI. Will be on the road shortly.infact u could 4 mo a mk5 if you had the balls :laugh:clearly i havent :ashamed:
Good point though Matt :happy2:
Need details....
Cost
spec
who did the conversion
:jumping:
It's Allan Fishburn's new project car at The Golf Centre in Darlington. Audi 4wd system is in, boot just needs tidying up because the spare wheel well had to be removed. I'll post more details once it's completely finished.
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just read an artical on the R20 golf, and was not impressed with the figures, 270BHP is a nice base level of horsepower, but 258Ibft torque is pretty rubbish, considering a stage 2 GTI puts about 300Ibft out.It will tune exactly the same as a S3, leon cupra, ed30.
still I imagine it should tune up very well, with all the extra internal work, then those figures should be vastly increased. for the price though i dont think its worth the money
still I imagine it should tune up very well, with all the extra internal work, then those figures should be vastly increased.
for the price though i dont think its worth the money
The recaro's still do absolutely nothing for me :indifferent:
After seeing the video I got even more convinced just how special my Edition30 really is. :love: :pomppomp: :driver:^^^^^^^^^^ could nt agree more , i m the sirroco R is grpwing on me more all the time :happy2:
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I'd still buy the Golf R rather than the S3. The R has far more style.
A RS3 Sportback S-tronic might make me rethink though.
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I'd still buy the Golf R rather than the S3. The R has far more style.
I think you may have to rethink your rethink when you see how much a reasonably specced S-Tronic RS3 Sportback will be though Red.. :surprised: Dare I say about 3-4 times what your current car would be worth... :scared:
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I'd still buy the Golf R rather than the S3. The R has far more style.
As long as you don't sit in it!
My wife had a Mk6 Golf diesel pool car the other week and the interior felt dreary and a bit cheap to be honest. Since I'm sat on the inside of the car more than the outside I'm beginning to value cabin quality (at my ripe old age!).
The price of these new 'super hatches' are silly
they are competing against things like this with a few miles on them
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1251583.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1162039.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1256517.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1245024.htm
Though I appreciate the quality of Audi interiors it's simply not what I want in a car - I personally prefer it more funky and less of a luxury caccoon detaching you from the road.
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I think you may have to rethink your rethink when you see how much a reasonably specced S-Tronic RS3 Sportback will be though Red.. :surprised: Dare I say about 3-4 times what your current car would be worth... :scared:
....Sorry but I don't see what the value of my current car has to do with it - I either have the money available for the RS3 or Golf R or I don't.
But I do see your point that a RS3 S-Tronic Sportback would be quite a lot of money.
golf r will be £28k plus options which there is nt many , sat nav ,recaro s take it to £30 k
I'm not going to post the nub of what my wife said about the Golf's interior as I'm on a Golf specific forum :wink: (plus it was too rude to type on a public forum!). She enjoyed the car drive wise but was less than complimentary about the internal finish. The polite bit implied you'd expect an interior like this in a SEAT or a Skoda, not in a Golf at this price point.
Nothing to do with you finacial situation Red. I meant is it really worth 3-4 times more than your Golf knowing how much you love it.. :wink:
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I'd still buy the Golf R rather than the S3. The R has far more style.
A RS3 Sportback S-tronic might make me rethink though.
I think you may have to rethink your rethink when you see how much a reasonably specced S-Tronic RS3 Sportback will be though Red.. :surprised: Dare I say about 3-4 times what your current car would be worth... :scared:
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I'd still buy the Golf R rather than the S3. The R has far more style.
A RS3 Sportback S-tronic might make me rethink though.
I think you may have to rethink your rethink when you see how much a reasonably specced S-Tronic RS3 Sportback will be though Red.. :surprised: Dare I say about 3-4 times what your current car would be worth... :scared:
Ben were can you purchase a new RS3 for 18,000.. :chicken: :evilgrin:
For anyone who was considering the Golf R
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Sod That! S3 (gen4 haldex - same as the golf R) S3 engine (same as the golf R) with a saving of £10k........hard one that :signLOL:
Just read the review in CAR magazine. VW are punting the R20 as a more upmarket "GT" rather than an out and out sports car. In their words " The suspension will be ultimately softer than that of the sport mode on the GTI"....WTF....I want something a little more hardcore than that. The sport setting on the MKVI GTI isn't all that hard either!!!!
Ever driven an S3 with it's lack of steering feel??
lets not get carried away, whsilt the price is euros taxation levied accross europe varies massively depending on which country as they get hit with emiisions taxes etcThis is very true mate, just ask Peskarik :surprised:
Just read the review in CAR magazine. VW are punting the R20 as a more upmarket "GT" rather than an out and out sports car. In their words " The suspension will be ultimately softer than that of the sport mode on the GTI"....WTF....I want something a little more hardcore than that. The sport setting on the MKVI GTI isn't all that hard either!!!!Mmmm interesting that.. Not as big a bloater as I thought it would be then. Gives it a power/weight of 192bhp/tonne which isn't far off the standard RS. But more importantly 257bhp/tonne when Stage 2+ :wink:.
Another quote is "similar to the S3"...so disappointing again :sad1:
Good point was that the car in 3dr manual mode will squeeze under 1400kg by 1 kg. DSG will add approx 30kg to that going by the MKV. :smiley:
Just read the review in CAR magazine. VW are punting the R20 as a more upmarket "GT" rather than an out and out sports car. In their words " The suspension will be ultimately softer than that of the sport mode on the GTI"....WTF....I want something a little more hardcore than that. The sport setting on the MKVI GTI isn't all that hard either!!!!
Another quote is "similar to the S3"...so disappointing again :sad1:
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I'd still buy the Golf R rather than the S3. The R has far more style.
The price of these new 'super hatches' are silly
they are competing against things like this with a few miles on them
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1251583.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1162039.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1256517.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1245024.htm
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I'd still buy the Golf R rather than the S3. The R has far more style.
As long as you don't sit in it!
My wife had a Mk6 Golf diesel pool car the other week and the interior felt dreary and a bit cheap to be honest. Since I'm sat on the inside of the car more than the outside I'm beginning to value cabin quality (at my ripe old age!).
....At my ripe old age of 62yo I don't like the Mk6 interior much either - It's too Audi-esque with the silver bits for my taste. Though I appreciate the quality of Audi interiors it's simply not what I want in a car - I personally prefer it more funky and less of a luxury caccoon detaching you from the road.
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Though I appreciate the quality of Audi interiors it's simply not what I want in a car - I personally prefer it more funky and less of a luxury caccoon detaching you from the road.
:happy2:
I'd agree with detachment from the outright experience in an Audi, the over-cossetting tends to make you feel once step removed.
I'm not going to post the nub of what my wife said about the Golf's interior as I'm on a Golf specific forum :wink: (plus it was too rude to type on a public forum!). She enjoyed the car drive wise but was less than complimentary about the internal finish. The polite bit implied you'd expect an interior like this in a SEAT or a Skoda, not in a Golf at this price point.
I'm not going to post the nub of what my wife said about the Golf's interior as I'm on a Golf specific forum :wink: (plus it was too rude to type on a public forum!). She enjoyed the car drive wise but was less than complimentary about the internal finish. The polite bit implied you'd expect an interior like this in a SEAT or a Skoda, not in a Golf at this price point.
....Such things matter to some - Usually more to the ladies than the guys. Generally ladies see cars as utilities and also apply the rather negative (imo) 'am-I-getting-enough-for-my-money?' question - They're always on the hunt for shopping bargains, it's almost in the genes of some. We still love them though.
The price of these new 'super hatches' are silly
they are competing against things like this with a few miles on them
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1251583.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1162039.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1256517.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1245024.htm
+1
though keeping Ferro in shape will cost a fortune, while keeping Golf in shape will be small money
Even the running costs are not as much as you think! The ferrari is not too bad if you dont do many miles a year
....I think it's sacrilege to own a car such as a Ferrari and not drive it at every opportunity, so I'd be doing about 20k miles a year.
You don't keep a good horse couped up in its stable!
Even the running costs are not as much as you think! The ferrari is not too bad if you dont do many miles a year
....I think it's sacrilege to own a car such as a Ferrari and not drive it at every opportunity, so I'd be doing about 20k miles a year.
You don't keep a good horse couped up in its stable! And certainly not a prancing horse!
The price of these new 'super hatches' are silly
they are competing against things like this with a few miles on them
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1251583.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1162039.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1256517.htm
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1245024.htm
Ed30 could be traded for a new R20 :party: :evilgrin:
The more I think about how good the Ed30 is, the more I realise how good it really is. According to Car magazine, the R will have the same engine as the Mk5 GTI?! But uprated... read an Ed30 engine... I really think the Mk5 and esp the Ed30 will attain classic status just like the Mk2 has.
The more I think about how good the Ed30 is, the more I realise how good it really is. According to Car magazine, the R will have the same engine as the Mk5 GTI?! But uprated... read an Ed30 engine... I really think the Mk5 and esp the Ed30 will attain classic status just like the Mk2 has.
Amen to that brother! :happy2: :happy2:
mk7 golf is only arond the corner. It should come with a reworked 2.0T aswell :drool:
mk7 golf is only arond the corner. It should come with a reworked 2.0T aswell :drool:
Surely there wont be a Mk 7 until at least 2011, most models get a good 3 year run at minimum
£450 road tax :scared:
mk7 golf is only arond the corner. It should come with a reworked 2.0T aswell :drool:
Surely there wont be a Mk 7 until at least 2011, most models get a good 3 year run at minimum
Is that £32k plus £450 a year road tax!! :scared:
I think the mk6 GTI will depreciate heavily and be forgotten about personally!
shikes, i hope the Mk7 doesnt look like this !
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/234231/bold_new_golf_gets_into_shape.html?CMP=NLC-Newsletters
IMO R20 would have been better and more suited .. never mind.I can understand why simply the R... no matter how you look at it, an R20 in comparison to a R32 sounds like a step back rather than forward...