MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Carl123 on December 09, 2013, 03:07:02 pm
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Probably been spoken about before but I'm all new to this...soo just wanted to know ppls views on buying a high mileage car been offered a gti with 97k on the clock between 7-8 grand 07plate induction remap intercooler exhaust r32 rear bumper and rear exhaust made to fit...but I'm just curious on the mileage cheers
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Mileage is no indication of anything. Buy the car on it's condition and condition alone.
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119k on mine, solid engine! highest ive seen them go is 180k.
As long it has had engine oil changed regularly with correct oil, they should be sweet as a nut,
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Engine and Gearbox are generally very good... it's just everything else that starts to fall off.
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Thanks for the feed bk yh it's really clean I like it a lot but just had my eye set on a ed30 before this came up lol
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It will be fine just check it over 100k is nothing if it was 200k then I would say check everything
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They do last a long time, but as Jay said, low mileage isn't a stickler for being looked after :happy2:
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I'm in the mileage don't matter club too! most of my cars have been high mileage vw's and I've never had any issues with them that weren't easy or simple to fix and nothing to do with the mileage.
In my eyes anything under the average 10-12k a year hasn't probably hasn't had nice long motorway drives and has been start stop around towns wearing parts out quicker than a higher mileage car.
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i bought mine last year @94K and a year on it still feels like a 40K car, aslong as its been well maintained then u will be fine
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I've always based my buying on service history rather than mileage. Generally a good service history makes up for the high mileage
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My current ED30 has done pretty much 90k, but these days I wouldn't call that high mileage. It drives every bit as nice as my old 40k car.
Does my head in sometimes the way some people are so bothered about mileage over anything else. Sometimes it's just a number on the clocks, how's it's been maintained is a lot more important, cars are built to last these days too.
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I'm in the mileage don't matter club too! most of my cars have been high mileage vw's and I've never had any issues with them that weren't easy or simple to fix and nothing to do with the mileage.
In my eyes anything under the average 10-12k a year hasn't probably hasn't had nice long motorway drives and has been start stop around towns wearing parts out quicker than a higher mileage car.
Too many assumptions , my car is never driven unless it is running for 30 minutes , its 2007 and done 22k . Why does the trade give a higher price for a lower mileage , they are the proffesionals in what A CARS WORTH after all
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My current ED30 has done pretty much 90k, but these days I wouldn't call that high mileage. It drives every bit as nice as my old 40k car.
Does my head in sometimes the way some people are so bothered about mileage over anything else. Sometimes it's just a number on the clocks, how's it's been maintained is a lot more important, cars are built to last these days too.
So a low mileage car wouldn't have been serviced then ?
Long Life Servicing on modern cars is not good for them and cars should be serviced every year . Our other car is a Mini Cooper diesel we bought at 18 months old with about 40k on it , it had only been serviced once and that was what the manufacturer had reccommnded , the car had several problems (which i knew about when i bought it) and were resolved under warranty .
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I don't think mileage is an issue when buying providing it has been serviced properly
A lot of people do have a thing when it comes to mileage, an old car with low miles can also have problems as seals start perish and leak
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I bought mine on 104,000 miles and it's as good as new ,I picked it because of the spec and the history of it
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I'm in the mileage don't matter club too! most of my cars have been high mileage vw's and I've never had any issues with them that weren't easy or simple to fix and nothing to do with the mileage.
In my eyes anything under the average 10-12k a year hasn't probably hasn't had nice long motorway drives and has been start stop around towns wearing parts out quicker than a higher mileage car.
Too many assumptions , my car is never driven unless it is running for 30 minutes , its 2007 and done 22k . Why does the trade give a higher price for a lower mileage , they are the proffesionals in what A CARS WORTH after all
That is not true at all. They pay more for a lower mileage car because to the AVERAGE JOE who is uneducated, or doesn't understand, they think low miles is good. You say they are professionals in what a cars worth, most offer you £3k under retail anyway.. :surprised: :surprised:
Where as some of us believe differently, and understand there is more to a cars condition than the mileage.
I sold my TDI which had done 150k for £6750.. a 2004 Golf - And I can guarantee that car was in better condition than 90% of cars on here which may have done 1/3rd of the miles.
Your car which has done 22k in 5 years I'm sure is a good condition car but who's to say a car which has done 100k in 5 years is any less good condition... ? Engines can in theory last for 500k+
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Engines are cheaper to repair than bodywork , hence the reasoning and the reason why the trade are after low mileage examples as they are less likely to have non engine related problems
So Average Joe is uneducated and doesn't understand ! There are many people on here who feel they know better than other people , some are more in a postion to comment than others as they have more experience of what they choose to comment on . Then there are also people on this forum who buy cars and sell cars and unless they are purely private transaction are controlled by the Trade Price guide . The Car industry is controlled by those that are within it , not by those outside it , hence the trade dictates a cars worth . Damage your car and its written off what gauge do they use to give you a pay out ? The trade guide .
Ask any trader who attends a car auction what they are looking for when looking at cars for sale "BODYWORK"
Look at YOUR comment about YOUR car and what you think of 90% of the rest of the cars on here ! You have seen these 90% ? NO
So how can you say that about your car , it might well have been in good condition but its mileage will put off many more buyers than the the condition will attract and that is a fact :innocent:
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I know what they are looking for. But to people who KNOW about cars (IE enthusiasts, don't believe that car salesmen know half as much as they think they know) then you take the whole package.
You inspect everything, engine, bodywork, interior, wheels, suspension components, etc.
I just go to basically every single show in the community for the last 2 years, I've seen enough Mk5s to know where my old one stood in terms of quality of bodywork. My current GTI is not all that good (in my eyes) but other people think it's amazing. Just goes to show... Buying my GTI I looked at 6 cars, the one I bought was the 6th. 4 of them were CRAP. Either bodywork or mechanical or a combination of both and yet they all had between 40k and 70k.. one was even advertised on here!!!!!! So lower milage and yet crap condition! The best condition one I looked at (the first one) had 85k and this one that I bought had 89k and was the 2nd best condition. So the two highest milage cars I looked at were the best.
The fact is I put the car up for sale for £6750 and within 2 weeks I had had several offers of over £6000 and it was actually sold in cash at full asking price. When was the last time you hear that happening? A car sold within a fortnight for full asking. I am only speaking from experience. On Autotrader or Egay then people would probably have been put off with the mileage. However where it was advertised (on here, Edition, uk-mkivs etc - Enthusiast sites) people are attracted to the condition of the vehicle and generally do not care about mileage because they understand that in the grand scheme of things this doesn't matter and is not an indication at all of vehicle condition - mechanical or bodywork.
Don't under estimate the power of the consumer. WE as buyers control the market. If we don't buy a car because WE THINK it's too expensive the price will drop.
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Agree with most of what you say above
I always advertise my cars at what they are worth , not what i want for them , which is quite different in alot of peoples eyes ! If you price you car right it will sell especially if you are realistic.
At the end of the day we want rid of the car we have because we have an eye on another , it makes me laugh when people say they are not bothered whether they sell it or not , this is because they generally want more than the car is worth .
As a 50 year old i have been about the car scene for a few years :wink: , Condition of a car will always sell a car to an enthusiast from another enthusiast . This rarely happens and might account for about 2% of private sales . Mileage has such a dramtic influence on people that whatever the condition will sell one car over another if the condition of both cars are the same . The advert attracts in the potential buyers and however well you describe the car and show how fantastic it is in photos the car that receives the most attention will always be the low mileage one . The more potential buyers the higher the price (Generally) and what we are on about here is generally and not the exceptions , is it not ?
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I've just bought mine on an 07 with 41k on the clock. The chap has never changed the cam belt, but has a ridiculously comprehensive history otherwise! its a little confusing, but car runs and drives well. Because its only ever done short mileage the past year it probably needs a good thrashing as theres the bit of milkiness in the oil filler, but after 3 separate garages backing up that theory, i'm guessing we're ok!
but i agree, bought both high and low mileage before, and had a mixed bag, although generally the higher milers been better!
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Mine is on 116k and rapidly rising. It drives well. Just gotta change a couple parts and it will be sweet. Might have to get a cambelt and water pump done at some point though.
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I've seen enough Mk5s to know where my old one stood in terms of quality of bodywork
You make alot of good points Jay, I like reading your posts :popcornsoda:
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Lovely.
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The unfortunate simple truth is, a LOWER mileage car will ALWAYS demand & receive a HIGHER price... spec 4 spec.
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Service history doesnt mean that much either , my mrs s nissan qashqai 1.5 dci had full nissan history inc cam belt etc went bang at 73k miles just out of warrenty and nissan say that s exceptable!!!
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As already said if a cars been well looked after then the mileage isn't too much of an issue.