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Title: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 18, 2013, 04:26:07 pm
evening all.

have just fitted mk6 led number plate lights.. nice easy swap but have a error on the dash ( knew i would) but the new led lights don't work? will they once i get it plugged into vas pc and get the error light cleared and it reprogrammed?

sorry for all the noob questions, it seems alot harder to search on here then other forums i use regarding info
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: v4rley on December 18, 2013, 07:26:01 pm
Yep, the error code will prevent them from illuminating. So once code cleared they should be fine.  :happy2:

I've got them fitted to mine and the occasionally throw a fault but just flick lights on / off and it clears my fault.
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 18, 2013, 07:28:22 pm
Just fitted mine , they worked from the off but had fault on dash and mfd , fitted kufotec adaptors yesterday now they are all ok
Sounds like you must have blown the fuse if there is power to the lights they should come on even if the ecu is reading a fault
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 18, 2013, 07:30:34 pm
Yep, the error code will prevent them from illuminating. So once code cleared they should be fine.  :happy2:

I've got them fitted to mine and the occasionally throw a fault but just flick lights on / off and it clears my fault.
The lights will work even when the fault light etc is on , the ecu reads the resistance of the circuit it wont cut voltage going to the lights
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: v4rley on December 18, 2013, 07:33:32 pm
The lights will work even when the fault light etc is on , the ecu reads the resistance of the circuit it wont cut voltage going to the lights

Ok stand corrected! Just as said sometimes mine don't illuminate and show fault, switch on / off and fault gone and lights work..
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 18, 2013, 07:39:20 pm
just gone out for another look.... if i start the car and turn the lights on the number plate lights come on for approx 4-5 seconds then switch off!!

so assume the ECU is reading there not working and cutting the power
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 18, 2013, 07:40:51 pm
Are yours the genuine vw lights ?
I have a mk6 so went the oem route after reading loads of problems with after market ones , fitting just the light brought the fault messages up so i got mike tfsi to re program them via vag com but there was no option to do it so after more research the only solution is the kufotec adaptors ( which are expensive but oem+ quality or alter the wiring as per the 2012 model golfs
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 18, 2013, 07:44:22 pm
just gone out for another look.... if i start the car and turn the lights on the number plate lights come on for approx 4-5 seconds then switch off!!

so assume the ECU is reading there not working and cutting the power
I dont think the ecu is able to do this
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 18, 2013, 07:48:43 pm
Are yours the genuine vw lights ?
I have a mk6 so went the oem route after reading loads of problems with after market ones , fitting just the light brought the fault messages up so i got mike tfsi to re program them via vag com but there was no option to do it so after more research the only solution is the kufotec adaptors ( which are expensive but oem+ quality or alter the wiring as per the 2012 model golfs

yes genuine oem mk6 lights at a cost of £50!
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 18, 2013, 07:54:21 pm
well if i go for them adapters thats £82 just for sodding number plate lights!! i hope other mods i have planed wont sting me this much
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 18, 2013, 08:51:41 pm
Thats just what i thought , i paid £37 for the lights then another £ 33 for the adaptors £7.50 of that is postage but i got them in 24 hours
They do look good though
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi337.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2FC9BB9B47-C2B8-439E-94ED-8F162B7857B6_zpsc3sifl5m.jpg&hash=8825a734e7aec37b02ca489adbb4131b7a1fffb1) (http://s337.photobucket.com/user/candyturbo_2008/media/C9BB9B47-C2B8-439E-94ED-8F162B7857B6_zpsc3sifl5m.jpg.html)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi337.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2F2915D2DE-6B38-404A-93F3-79CF8212F7CE_zpsdmahly1g.jpg&hash=159aef6dcd4d19a42a752c37a7a7f531c7e30ac5) (http://s337.photobucket.com/user/candyturbo_2008/media/2915D2DE-6B38-404A-93F3-79CF8212F7CE_zpsdmahly1g.jpg.html)

The 18 led ones on ebay are far too bright. !
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 18, 2013, 09:17:34 pm
Thats why i didnt want to got for the ebay ones! I have two resister packs at home off my bike so i will solder them in tommrow and see if they work :happy2:
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 18, 2013, 09:29:23 pm
I was going to do that but mine just un plug now so if/when i sell the car i can sell them and get my money back , seen some lights and adaptors in ebay £100 !!
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: GTI-Ross on December 18, 2013, 09:50:29 pm
I bought these and they are perfect fit with no error and they are very bright. Bargain at £20

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271219982418?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 18, 2013, 10:44:18 pm
I was going to do that but mine just un plug now so if/when i sell the car i can sell them and get my money back , seen some lights and adaptors in ebay £100 !!

WHEN you sell the car in about 6months  :P  Got a link to the  kufatec resistor thingys?
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 18, 2013, 10:50:22 pm
I bought these and they are perfect fit with no error and they are very bright. Bargain at £20

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271219982418?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

my problem is im a bit of a OEM snob..... plus i have all ready got the lights so may as well make these ones work lol
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: xjay1337 on December 18, 2013, 11:14:43 pm
I have units similar to those (mine are from mylitco) and I paid £25 and they come with a years warranty -

I'm all for OEM but the MyLitco (or similar ones) are better, cost less than the OEM units themselves and don't need to buy wiring adaptors (at the same cost/slightly more!!!)  to make them work. £70-80 is silly money for number plate bulbs sorry...  :sick:


In VCDS there is a setting to turn off the bulb out monitoring for certain lights (eg indicators, front dipped, front main etc). That may provide some ability to remove the bulb out but won't stop the error of them not lighting I believe. Worth a try anyway!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg826%2F7088%2Fvhg8.png&hash=3de1e39d1cdc50b6ff4d597c2387751eef8b4243)
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 18, 2013, 11:42:40 pm

On the Mk6 byte 18 was different to that and didn't have the box to manually change the binary to one that is known to turn off bulb diagnosis

There was an option in byte 17 to enable PWM LED number plate bulbs but it made no difference :(
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: xjay1337 on December 18, 2013, 11:44:37 pm
Argh :(

That's a bum lol
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 19, 2013, 07:27:28 am
Well mine cost £80 but i m loving them lol, mike , 6 months ?
The 18 led ones are quite handy to if your reverse light blows or you need to see where you ve been !  :signLOL:
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: GTI-Ross on December 19, 2013, 09:50:43 am
I bought these and they are perfect fit with no error and they are very bright. Bargain at £20

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271219982418?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

my problem is im a bit of a OEM snob..... plus i have all ready got the lights so may as well make these ones work lol

As if you and Candy spent £80 on bulbs...OMG !!! I could think of a worse way to spend money. The ones i bought are PERFECT !!! and very bright.

Dont get me wrong i like OEM but £80....you guys need your heads shaking.
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 19, 2013, 09:59:17 am

Most of the aftermarket LEDs look far from OEM in how bright they are.  To many, that makes them look tacky, cheap, 'boy racer' call it what you will.

The good thing is the thread tells anyone else looking to do this, both options are available; a bright white error free (and good value) or a more costly but factory fit, error free solution.  :smiley:



Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: GTI-Ross on December 19, 2013, 10:06:54 am

Most of the aftermarket LEDs look far from OEM in how bright they are.  To many, that makes them look tacky, cheap, 'boy racer' call it what you will.

The good thing is the thread tells anyone else looking to do this, both options are available; a bright white error free (and good value) or a more costly but factory fit, error free solution.  :smiley:





The cheaper, brighter (OEM look) are error free , not a hint of errors. Like you said, everyone to their own
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: G40will on December 19, 2013, 01:55:09 pm
I've bought the ones Ross linked last night so when they come I'll throw a pic up on the thread.
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 19, 2013, 02:16:03 pm

My after market xtec or mtec (can't remember) ones;

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMy_Leon_Cupra%2FMini_mods%2FP1040512.jpg&hash=3ed436dcfcbcd85a104a66b612dd4b1474e4ed28)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMy_Leon_Cupra%2FMini_mods%2FP1040511.jpg&hash=b74325b8b17b4d0a89127b26afca05b668afbdf8)

Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: scooba on December 19, 2013, 02:21:47 pm
Fitted m6 leds to our Golf ED30 and they was plug and play error free
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 19, 2013, 02:23:26 pm
That's good to know cause I wouldn't mind 'upgrading' to oem LEDs
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 19, 2013, 03:59:30 pm
Fitted m6 leds to our Golf ED30 and they was plug and play error free
They are genuine vw mk6 led number plate lights ?
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 19, 2013, 05:45:06 pm
Fitted m6 leds to our Golf ED30 and they was plug and play error free
They are genuine vw mk6 led number plate lights ?
Exactly what i was going to ask
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 19, 2013, 07:31:29 pm
well i got mine working today with the help of a resister i had in my tool box! its for led motorcycle indicators and seems to work fine



(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F150x100q90%2Fc%2F34%2F9fvp.jpg&hash=e303b936f0cc984c7c3da1766781d2e6af3f60e3) (https://imageshack.com/i/0y9fvpj)
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 19, 2013, 07:54:28 pm
They look good , did you just connect the resistor in parallel with the light ?
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 19, 2013, 07:59:51 pm
i wired them like this

http://www.matstrad.com/resistors_tech.php

and i only put one resister on one light and it all works  :confused: would of thought i needed to do both lights
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: dandav1985 on December 19, 2013, 08:03:43 pm
Can you not turn the bulb warning light off on vag com????

Not 100% sure
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 19, 2013, 08:06:51 pm
As long as the circuit resistance is equal to the 2 bulbs you ve taken out it should be fine , just watch out cause the resistor  could get quite warm
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 19, 2013, 09:23:06 pm
Its well insulated and shrink wrapped ;-)
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: xjay1337 on December 19, 2013, 11:21:22 pm
Needs a heat sink ideally and mounting a solid surface lol not wrapping up
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: D8MOA on December 20, 2013, 12:01:13 am
Needs a heat sink ideally and mounting a solid surface lol not wrapping up

thats how it came from the manufacture, its designed to go under motorcycle fairing so assume they wrapped it in insulation for that reason! plus the ones from Kufatec come heat shrinked  :P 

http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-5-golf-5-plus-1k/adapter-led-number-plate-light-vw-seat
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: Andy on December 20, 2013, 12:24:15 am
I put these in tonight with no errors
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=370714734903



(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcc20%2Fmaxitrol%2F20131219_173546_zps4a4ddb05.jpg&hash=552c9dac6e14d6e653f590ea96e2676b7a3643e9)
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 20, 2013, 03:21:18 pm
Needs a heat sink ideally and mounting a solid surface lol not wrapping up

thats how it came from the manufacture, its designed to go under motorcycle fairing so assume they wrapped it in insulation for that reason! plus the ones from Kufatec come heat shrinked  :P 

http://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-5-golf-5-plus-1k/adapter-led-number-plate-light-vw-seat
No they are nt the cable is heat shrinked the resistors are exposed and they are wired in series so they wont ne carrying the load a resistor in parallel would
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: G40will on December 20, 2013, 05:53:06 pm
Well, I got the ones from eBay in the post today (gtiross's link) and I'm very please with them!

Here's the pics.

Standard
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ff213%2Fwillg40%2F3d8aca705f6f86c3e540d3d64161b49b.jpg&hash=d20098d6ee13d1f60155fb550612aebad94f3a62)

Half way through
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ff213%2Fwillg40%2F4198c9617ad0a830c6d94961eca50bd1.jpg&hash=d0c220d2a0f29820d6fd5833185c2f8af1801fa0)

All done
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ff213%2Fwillg40%2F46a2ee7df586b1639435ec7978beaf58.jpg&hash=a1e28fa0fa622a30b4a5e525af09b26fbb706510)

As you can see they are very bright but I like them!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ff213%2Fwillg40%2Fd6ebdc5a5f24ec9cf2819e313ad63cc6.jpg&hash=69edb1c5e626164cb2120d00358fb7b71d924317)

Can't complain for the £23 I paid for them to come next day!





Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: GTI-Ross on December 20, 2013, 06:21:13 pm
Yep they look mint. And i can confirm they look even better in the flesh, no glare on the plate at all.  :congrats:
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: G40will on December 20, 2013, 06:22:38 pm
Yep they look mint. And i can confirm they look even better in the flesh, no glare on the plate at all.  :congrats:

Yes, forgot to men's ion that they don't glare of the plate, really chuffed with them! Cheers for the link Ross.
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: GTI-Ross on December 20, 2013, 06:23:14 pm
I put these in tonight with no errors
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=370714734903



(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcc20%2Fmaxitrol%2F20131219_173546_zps4a4ddb05.jpg&hash=552c9dac6e14d6e653f590ea96e2676b7a3643e9)

worth the £3 but the ones above for an extra £20 make a huge difference
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: GTI-Ross on December 20, 2013, 06:24:12 pm
Yep they look mint. And i can confirm they look even better in the flesh, no glare on the plate at all.  :congrats:

Yes, forgot to men's ion that they don't glare of the plate, really chuffed with them! Cheers for the link Ross.

No problem mate, i would rather people buy these than waste £80 on the OEM ones
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: xjay1337 on December 20, 2013, 07:13:35 pm
Well, I got the ones from eBay in the post today (gtiross's link) and I'm very please with them!




Basically identical to the ones I suggested but everyone is like "JAI Y U BEAM ME UP SCOTTY"  :sad1: :sad1:
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: G40will on December 20, 2013, 07:47:08 pm
Well, I got the ones from eBay in the post today (gtiross's link) and I'm very please with them!




Basically identical to the ones I suggested but everyone is like "JAI Y U BEAM ME UP SCOTTY"  :sad1: :sad1:

 :love:
Title: Re: mk6 numberplate light issue?
Post by: candy turbo on December 20, 2013, 08:38:47 pm
Well, I got the ones from eBay in the post today (gtiross's link) and I'm very please with them!




Basically identical to the ones I suggested but everyone is like "JAI Y U BEAM ME UP SCOTTY"  :sad1: :sad1:
Lol  :P