MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: nelmser on December 22, 2013, 08:47:45 pm
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Don't ask how, but I've managed to scrape/hit against a post near my house... My poor GTI has come away quite badly :(
I need to replace the left front wing and entire front bumper. Everything else is fine. Initially the left wheel couldn't turn because the wheel arch had crumpled, but I've managed to sort that out, now need to replace the damages.
Will probably take to a garage, but seen as all my locals are closed until after Xmas, anyone care to estimate a fix cost?
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I take it your a women?
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Saw it coming... :signLOL: :driver:
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I take it your a women?
No need for that! We are old enough on here to avoid sexism, even in joke form!
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I take it your a women?
I take it then, that it was your missus that wrote off your car? :innocent:
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Wing is pretty mashville.
Can get them on fleabay painted to code for about £85 :happy2:
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Had a look, can also buy front bumpers too.... I'm sure it would save me tons of cash, but I'm clueless on how to fit. So I'll end up taking to garage.
I was hoping repair cost would be under a grand, and judging by those part costs hopefully it will be :happy2:
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Paint is horrendous price now , don't skimp on quality as you'll see it every time you go near the car . Has the wing being pushed back caused any door damage or A pillar problem ?
At least £1000 done properly ?? My sons car was damaged recently , front n/s wing not as bad as that and no bumper damage but f/n/s door skin and rear n/s door skin and the bill was £4600 , but that was on Insurance . The paint alone cost over £500 according to the invoice .
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Wing is pretty mashville.
Can get them on fleabay painted to code for about £85 :happy2:
What is the quality of that though , a VW wing is about twice that before prep and paint ? Paint is horrendous price now its water based etc
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If you're paying a grand to do that on an 8 year old hatchback you need your head checking, if someone is paying £4.6k then a lobotomy is the only answer. Price of paint sounds like classic bodyshop B$ to me. :wink:
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I take it your a women?
No need for that! We are old enough on here to avoid sexism, even in joke form!
I think if anyone is offended (women) they are able to speak up for themselves lol.
If you can't have a joke in life because you're PC then hey so be it!!
From looking at the pictures..
You would need new wing, blending onto the door, new bumper, new fog light, new fog light grill, associated clips, new splitter, probably a few little bits of wiring etc, new headlight if there's any damage on that. Also would imagine you'd need a new air temp sensor (for the dash readout) but maybe got away with that one?!
Presume the crash bar isn't bent/damaged and no other damaged parts.. best bet is to whip bumper off to check!
Prices depend on your location and what not... always get a bit irate at people asking how much it is to spray when we're not spray painters in your area!!! :grin:
I had half my old car resprayed for £450. Yet I know in some parts in London that would barely get you one panel done for that! :confused:
You need to ask a bodyshop in your area for an accurate quote..
RE Insurance bodyshop repairs .... agree they cost a fortune, that's how the majority of bodyshops make their money through insurance work. - By charging extortionate amounts of money!!! 500 quid in paint? You need like 3-4 litres to do a FULL respray (I'm talking colour change or from a bare metal chassis). Same colour blow over sort of work is much less.
1 US quart is 0.96L am I right? The house of kolor paint I use on my wheels is £50 per quart. That is a pretty special colour plus house of kolor scene tax. So it would cost me let's say at worst £300 for paint to do a car... normal paint would be less.. OK plus the lacquers and thinners and what not but still. £500 for a few panels is a far reach.
No wonder our insurance prices are so high! :signLOL: :signLOL:
How on earth did you manage to do that though?!?!
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Gutted for you :sad1: on the other hand I did have a little laugh when I saw the scrape/hit comment then saw the picture :laugh: that's tried to rip the wing off!! Would be very surprised if the headlight mounts haven't being snapped off. Have you no friends that could this as a govey? You just get the parts and they fit?
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Jay your hok paint is fairly cheap bud.
We use DuPont
Average tinte r price is about 150 per litre. The binders are over 200 a tub and the xirrilic pearls are 250 for half a litre. Your laqcuers are close to 350 a gallon.
I'm sick of saying it but ins quotes are done through a recognized system with tines derived from thatchem, the same people who grade the alarms. Sad to say but the Times they quote are accurate, just the fact Joe public would never pay them so we have to loose some of the time and profit.
Paint prices are worked out on an index of panel coverage.
Like anything you can buy cheap paint. But I wouldn't use it for anything. Is crap.
The above repair your looking at roughly £220 paint and materials around £130 Labour and then the parts on top.
Oe parts are best but expensive, non gen can be ok as long ad there thatchem approved , used parts will be cheapest but bare in mind you'll pay a bit more due to them having stone chips or dents that may need doing.
Jake
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I take it your a women?
No need for that! We are old enough on here to avoid sexism, even in joke form!
I think if anyone is offended (women) they are able to speak up for themselves lol.
If you can't have a joke in life because you're PC then hey so be it!!
I wouldn't consider myself particularly PC, but that hasn't got anything I do with being PC; it wasn't written in a jokey form, with any humour linked to it, nor did it follow up with any query about the car so was just a sexist statement.
Anyway, back to the poor lad and his car, definitely more a wack than a scrap :signLOL:, only way to keep parts down is like others have said, second hand pre-paired parts would be the best bet
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I had a moment a few weeks back and drove into the back of a car :-( done exactly the same damage as you + headlight but on the drivers side, gone through insurance because couldn't be bothered with the hassle of fitting etc myself and having to colour match ESP being red!! Company doing the repairs, using gen parts and having to spray pretty much 1 whole side of the car to blend it in , price comes to over £2K!!! Im sure it can be done ALOT cheaper than this but I figured if my insurance company are going to spank my backside next year I might aswell spank theirs! haha
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I'm sick of saying it but ins quotes are done through a recognized system with tines derived from thatchem, the same people who grade the alarms. Sad to say but the Times they quote are accurate, just the fact Joe public would never pay them so we have to loose some of the time and profit.
No denying that and not mugging anyone off but there is a huge variation in price between private jobs and the invoiced cost on insurance. I'm not sure about spraying as I said, but I know the book times for mechanical work are nowhere near accurate. They say it takes 4.5 to change a gearbox on a Golf, I've watched it be done in 1 hour 58 minutes!
When my old car got keyed it was blended on rear wing, resprayed rear door, drivers door, front wing, bonnet and the adjacent wing, and I paid £450 for that. (over half the car basically). Wasn't the BEST job but nothing a wet sand wouldn't fix. It was perfectly presentable!
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Dont forget the times take into account never working on the car,
how many times has the guy who did the job taken out the same gearbox,
now give him a chevy lacetti and get thim to do the same,
when we were mitsubishi approved, we had to take a dash out, times given were 3hrs! for a full dash on a l200 warrior
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I agree Jake, familiarity is everything. :happy2:
But you'd think for the most part the majority of cars are fairly similar, most cars, Golfs, Astras and what not, are all fairly simple.
However in the case of mechanics, I went to VW for a quote on the clutch change they wanted £700 in labour!! They said it would take 4.5 hours.
You'd think a VW Mastertech could do it a bit more quickly than that.
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I take it your a women?
No need for that! We are old enough on here to avoid sexism, even in joke form!
Bore off...what are you a member of parliment?
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I take it your a women?
I take it then, that it was your missus that wrote off your car? :innocent:
A 17 year old lad with L plates on and his mother in the passenger seat whilst my car was parked outside my house believe it or not :signLOL:
Anyway back on topic...your car looks worse then mine...and my insurance wrote mine off and are paying me out for the whole car :fighting:
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Everyone asking how..... It genuinely was a scrape against a post next to my drive. Misjudged swinging round in my drive :sad: Wasn't even going to stop because it literally felt like nothing, was just going to check it out at the end of my drive lol. Then heard a strange noise as I continued, so pulled up, got out and almost fell over in shock. Honest to god, there was no impact whatsoever, just scraping :/
Seems to be massive variation in guesses.... Some people saying £3-4k some saying under £1k!!
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I take it your a women?
No need for that! We are old enough on here to avoid sexism, even in joke form!
Bore off...what are you a member of parliment?
:signLOL: now that was funny. However, no I am not a member of parliament, I just don't think that the first thing to jump at should be the well worn 'are you a woman' joke - especially when it was in fact a guy that did it himself :evilgrin:
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If a woman finds a woman joke offensive then that's one thing
a bloke finding it offensive may work to win you brownie points with the missus but doesnt work with us :grin: :grin:
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The worm has turned, the two ronnies predicted it: &t=0m21s lolf
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Mine wasn't a guess
It was a quote ;)
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If a woman finds a woman joke offensive then that's one thing
a bloke finding it offensive may work to win you brownie points with the missus but doesnt work with us :grin: :grin:
Difference being that I'm not trying to win brownie points on here, was just stating my view :grin:
Anyway, now that we have cleared that up, I still think the op will
Be better fixing himself, as others have said insurance costs will be high due to new parts at full retail plus paint and labour
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Its never going to be £3-4k
The damage you have can be repaired with new parts , copy parts and secondhand parts - First saving possibility
You can probably put all the bits on yourslef and source them yourself - Second Saving possibility
You can get them sprayed properly in a top class approved bodshop or cheaper - third saving possibility
If you are paying the bill it is all down to you how much you can get it done for - My sons £4600 repair using genuine bits vw approved bodyshop etc i reckon could have been done alot cheaper and around £1500 or less , but then some tw@t pulled out onto him and smashed his pride and joy so we will get it repaired as best as possible with genuine parts and it was near perfect prior to accident too
Your car may have other bodywork issues and had previous work and you might be skint , that would make a great deal of difference to what you do
Good luck to you and hope that you get it sorted and it doesn't spoil your Xmas - Have a good one :drinking:
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If it were my car and I buy the parts I expect to pay no more than 300 for the spray and fitting -
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It would cost more than that, bumper and wing need doing as well as blending on the other wing, bonnet and drivers door.. £500 is a reasonable amount for spraying, especially as replacement panels would either be the wrong colour or need spraying from fresh.
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It would cost more than that, bumper and wing need doing as well as blending on the other wing, bonnet and drivers door.. £500 is a reasonable amount for spraying, especially as replacement panels would either be the wrong colour or need spraying from fresh.
I'd agree with that , especially red :innocent:
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Like I said I expect to pay no more than £300
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Then simply have a crap quality job or don't have it done at all! Lol. :popcornsoda:
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Like I say 300 as the wing and bumper will be sprayed off car - anyone is free to spend their £500 or whatever it may be in the perception that paying more will give a better quality job
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I guess you don't want your panels to match then do you.
Doesn't matter whether it's on or off the car, to have a PROPER spray job it will be more than that.
Some people have no idea how much things cost lol.
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I been in the metal finishing industry for 30 years so I doubt there's anything you can teach me about prepping and painting
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Okay pal :innocent:
I am the last person to tell people to may more, but hey.
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Given the state of this picture I think we should be encouraging banter!
I certainly wouldn't expect to put this picture up and not get some abuse. :laugh:
Joking aside... have you checked your not actually a woman?
lol
No - seriously, feel for you pal, hope you get it sorted :happy2:
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I been in the metal finishing industry for 30 years so I doubt there's anything you can teach me about prepping and painting
Show us your certificates then we'll believe you :happy2:
We don't need to be taught about it , we talking about the cost :innocent:
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Front bumper if it's any help :happy2:
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Certificates??? When you are willing to pay me £200 a day minimum for my services I will show you certification and references going back 30 years if not ShUT YOUR BLAH BLAH TRAP
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?? :surprised: :confused: :surprised:
Why don't your stick your certificates up your hole? Merry Christmas :laugh:
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Maybe u should come and c me and I will stick it where it belongs I can accommodate you anytime
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200 a day but you wouldn't pay more than 300 so that's a day and a half for you to do the job.
Your heads so far up your back side mate. Talking to people like that's out of order.
If that can be done for 300 correctly then I'll hold my hands up. But my betting its a Fred In the shed using sh*t paint.
If it were me I'd be buying a genuine new wing. The non gen fit like pants and buying used means your inviting trouble 're the old vw wing rust issue.
Then get a used front bumper in good condition.
The colour needs blending into the door so you don't look like apatch work quilt under sodium light.
Some people will blend the other wing but as norm most bumpers are off colour. Yours prob are already.
Like I say you've got 4hrs Labour in strip build and prep, then you paint for the wing bumper and door taking into account that the used bumper will need priming to remove any stone chips.
That's the way I'd do it.
Jake
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Remember 200 minimum is my charge --when I posted a comment I had already phoned 4 of my contacts their reply is ---- non metallic 250 --- metallic 300? 1/2 pint needed insurance approved like I said if I BUY the parts 300 max--as for head so far up backside ( we are here to give constructive advice based on experience) you are welcome to come and rectify the situation
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If u asked for just the wing n bumper like u said above then that's quite expensive.
Who deals in pints of paint? Are you American????
Ins approved means dick. Has no bearing on quality.
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Us old Skool veterans talk in pints -same as we say painting instead of spraying , but hey like I said i meaning ME I would not expect to pay more than 300 if the op wants it done for that price I can sort it for him them all can comment on the quality
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Guys,
Come on lets not make this personal :grouphug:
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Apologies to all for the conbatitive attitude -- my bad
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Certificates??? When you are willing to pay me £200 a day minimum for my services I will show you certification and references going back 30 years if not ShUT YOUR BLAH BLAH TRAP
How very rude :innocent:
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He said sorry
Let's leave it now.
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Merry xmas to all , cheers and enjoy
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When I had my TR GTI I reversed into a car in my dark works car park , marked my bumper - cost me nearly 400 do get the bumper and door mirrors sprayed at my local Mitsubishi garage - and after that they didnt match at all - so when it went in to get the wings changed under warranty I got VW to spray them again - the match was better but still not right , I couldnt stand seeing the mismatch in paint colours so I traded the 05 car in for a Candy White 58 plater. Red is a right bassa to match :(
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Yikes all kicked off in here.
Near me i got quoted £400 to paint a bumper and £60 a wing to blend in.
But i know someone up north who paid £800 for a paint job. but havent seen how good it is!