MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Loss of power :(
Post by: Scottymon on December 24, 2013, 05:32:28 pm
Coming home tonight, gave it a bit up the slip road, but not really going felt like the Turbo had died.

In the summer I replaced a faulty Throttle Body for a Q version which had a similar feel when it went, but also gave an EPC light on the dash.

Has a diet of Super unleaded, recently a few tanks of V-Power
I've checked the Petrol cap is on tight.
Spark plugs are fairly new around 2 months.
PCV test would suggest ok (but perhaps not).
DV was swapped in the Summer to Rev G.

Car picks up when Turbo boosts but then kind of dies and very flat after around 3kRPM.

I've run a complete scan and it returns no error codes at all.

Any suggestions? :happy2:

EDIT: Forgot to mention Cam Follower swapped in the summer also.
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: bacillus on December 24, 2013, 05:40:50 pm
No stored fault codes you say?   :confused:

You may have to live log the car to check at minimum boost, timing, fuel rail and lpfp pressure to help shed some light on what's happening.
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Scottymon on December 24, 2013, 05:49:49 pm
Yeah mate, was really expecting some sort of error code but clean as a whistle... hmm.

I thought it maybe clutch, but it's totally different, the revs don't rise quickly at all, everything just slows down after 3k'ish. Leaky or not getting the fuel, but I would've assumed some sort of error code for either... bah.

Thanks for the recommendation, I was going to do a live log, but couldn't remember where it was in VCDS, so will have a look after Santa has been. :happy2:
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: martin@gti.co.uk on December 24, 2013, 06:02:05 pm
can you do a log while driving to see what is happening?

http://www.goapr.com/support/datalogging.php
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: bacillus on December 24, 2013, 06:04:41 pm
boost block 115
Timing pull  block 020
Fuel rail pressure block 106
LPFP block 231
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: bacillus on December 24, 2013, 06:05:41 pm
can you do a log while driving to see what is happening?

That's live logging...
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Scottymon on December 26, 2013, 08:41:57 pm
Haven't had a chance to live log yet, but had a quick shifty from around the bonnet today (before the usual distractions)... looks like the nearside intercooler pipe isn't completely butted up, about 1/2inch away from being square and seated up - could this be the reason?
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: bacillus on December 26, 2013, 09:33:46 pm
Absolutely, boost leak from anywhere can lead to varying degrees of power loss.
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: SurreyED30 on December 27, 2013, 12:21:54 am
I had a similar issue with mine mate, plant your foot then around 3-4K it was is if the turbo stalls then picks up again once you've let off the throttle? Plugged my eddy in and it showed multiple misfire on all 4 cylinders !  :jumping: sh*t my pants to be honest.

Vw done multiple tests to see what was up with it as in theory the car should even start! They tested for compression, timing, smoke test, physically checked all the hoses and everything was done up tight lol and my issue was fueling, I had a cracked fuel pump and a shot fuel control unit.

I replaced my fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter and fuel control unit. (Cost was quite a bit)
Ever since I've had no issues at all what so ever even when driving hard.

Don't panic and think that's what's wrong with mine, just my story lol

Good luck mate hope it's something daft

Jake
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: edd666999 on December 27, 2013, 01:23:00 pm
Was about to say check ic hoses as the pop off for fun  :grin:
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Scottymon on December 29, 2013, 07:25:37 pm
Well, I took all the underbody plastics off today (have a slight knock that I'm trying to solve and wanted to rule out knocking plastics), top and bottom arch liners and undertray... took the IC pipes off, cleaned them up and re-attached, whilst I was at it, took a look at the DV for tears, bearing in mind I replaced this at the end of the summer for a brand new Rev. G (probably covered 5k miles)...:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voodish.co.uk%2Fmisc%2Fdv-g.jpg&hash=b1ad9ff8f66644aecc7a6e980c5be6e7a9bd3a91)

 :rolleye:

Can't believe it has torn in such a small amount of time and mileage... however, I'm glad this is the reason and not Turbo.

It's all gone back together until I grab a new DV.

Thanks for the input! :happy2:

Do these have any sort of warranty?  Pretty damn poor to fail so soon.

Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Markyed30 on December 29, 2013, 07:41:59 pm
What stage/power are you running?
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Scottymon on December 29, 2013, 07:52:58 pm
Lame... a little 250bhp / 290lb K03

I'm contemplating the GFB DV+, but the price of it is annoying me TBH... anyone have one for sale? :party:
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Markyed30 on December 29, 2013, 08:03:19 pm
I'd take it back surly it should come with a year's warranty from what I can tell my car has had a rev g since new 08 plate with 30k miles
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Jonathon555 on December 29, 2013, 09:10:54 pm
I had a similar issue with mine mate, plant your foot then around 3-4K it was is if the turbo stalls then picks up again once you've let off the throttle? Plugged my eddy in and it showed multiple misfire on all 4 cylinders !  :jumping: sh*t my pants to be honest.

Vw done multiple tests to see what was up with it as in theory the car should even start! They tested for compression, timing, smoke test, physically checked all the hoses and everything was done up tight lol and my issue was fueling, I had a cracked fuel pump and a shot fuel control unit.

I replaced my fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel filter and fuel control unit. (Cost was quite a bit)
Ever since I've had no issues at all what so ever even when driving hard.

Don't panic and think that's what's wrong with mine, just my story lol

Good luck mate hope it's something daft

Jake

What :did all that cost ????

Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: SurreyED30 on January 02, 2014, 12:43:26 pm
^^^^ £662  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Scottymon on January 02, 2014, 01:03:21 pm
I'd take it back surly it should come with a year's warranty from what I can tell my car has had a rev g since new 08 plate with 30k miles

Very true, I've contacted http://www.germanautopartsdirect.co.uk where I purchased it from to see what's what.

Only thing I can think of, is the K03 get stupidly hot and cooks the little rubber diaphragm being sat right on top of it, where as the K04 has the relocation of the DV --- perhaps Rev.D or DV+ is better suited to a tuned K03.
Title: Re: Loss of power :(
Post by: Scottymon on January 09, 2014, 05:12:00 pm
Just wanted to give a shout out for Martyn at German Auto Spares: http://www.germanautopartsdirect.co.uk/

He replaced my split Revision G free of charge (I've sent the old one back), can't say fairer than that! Thumbs up to him, will definitely be using them again for other bits. :happy2:

Car is boosting great now :party: