MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: nath on December 26, 2013, 07:37:49 pm

Title: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: nath on December 26, 2013, 07:37:49 pm
What are the advantages of mapping a diesel ( gt tdi 140 ) for example . I don't drive fast and wonder why you would map a diesel ?  I don't do many miles either .  Just wondering really . Would it not make fuel consumption worse ? Would it not make more sense to by a petrol Gti ?  Thanks  :confused:   Is there a Map that would suit my driving without putting extra wear n tear o the car ?
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: Andy on December 26, 2013, 07:45:36 pm
Mapping a diesel makes the car drive better and gets rid of that terrible flat spot they have..A good tuner will be able to make a map for your car to suit you..If your not doing a lot of miles ignore all that and get a Gti
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: rich83 on December 26, 2013, 07:51:12 pm
Resistance is futile.  BUY A PETROL!!!!
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: Andy on December 26, 2013, 08:01:28 pm
 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: xjay1337 on December 26, 2013, 10:05:07 pm
Driving a standard diesel to a mapped one is a huge difference.
As standard TDIs have a very flat delivery, they peak and then sort of fade away very quickly. With a remap you will double your powerband width, from around 1800-2800 in a normal car to about 2000-4200 in a mapped one.
You also gain fuel economy because of the way the boost and fuelling is done, making it more efficient at part throttle openings, meaning you can expect around 6-8mpg increase on a steady cruise.
If you don't drive many miles you should not have really bought a diesel to be honest! That being said driving a GTI even around town the difference is huge, the worst I got from my 1.9 TDI was 450 a tank, the worst I've had from my GTI is 260 (so far...) so really the TDI is more economical.

But hey!  :surprised: :innocent:
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: rich83 on December 26, 2013, 10:24:30 pm
You don't gain fuel economy. Anyone telling you that has a four foot wooden nose.
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: xjay1337 on December 27, 2013, 09:39:25 am
Yes you do Rich.
I know that first hand.  :wink:
(I have a 4 foot wooden something though  :drool:)
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: SkyJawa on December 27, 2013, 09:44:44 am
Because often diesels gain even more bhp and torque than petrols quite often while adding even better mpg when driving normally.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: Trekmeister on December 27, 2013, 10:11:52 am
You don't gain fuel economy. Anyone telling you that has a four foot wooden nose.
I gained better economy by about 5mpg for certain, i never got 60mpg ever and its a lot smoother
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: rich83 on December 27, 2013, 10:54:21 am
I've had both remapped diesel and petrol car.... Never had increase MPG with either of them. Could be down to lead foot disease.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: Trekmeister on December 27, 2013, 11:22:08 am
I've had both remapped diesel and petrol car.... Never had increase MPG with either of them. Could be down to lead foot disease.
Definitely,  if I put my foot down I average 40mpg which is still good tbh. To get really good mpg I have to drive like a nun
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: xjay1337 on December 27, 2013, 11:24:20 am
I've had both remapped diesel and petrol car.... Never had increase MPG with either of them. Could be down to lead foot disease.

Driving style : Knob head haha.
If you drive quicker then completely agree it's worse than before but on cruise control on motorway...? Better :)
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: Andy on December 27, 2013, 11:39:30 am
Mine  is better also but never achieved it thou as I like the sound of the milltek
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on December 27, 2013, 03:46:44 pm
I haven't mapped my CR 170 TDI (yet  :evilgrin:)

But have lots of mates with mapped diesels. Think Jay has the reasons pretty much wrapped up further up in the thread, if you want a bit more poke and a more flexible engine then a remap is for you.

Some people also have remap to support other modifications like DPF removal or EGR removal.
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: slider955i on January 02, 2014, 07:59:08 pm
i have had many petrol cars and a couple of diesels , nothing better than mapping a good petrol turbo but my god the torque from a diesel is fantastic , got my gt sport 170 done and its amazing , 208bhp and 338 ft lb torque
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: connery tdi on February 27, 2014, 08:01:28 pm
I am certain my 2.0tdi 140 is mapped, purchased it like it and it pulls like a bloody train and the economy is good. I just wish I knew who it was mapped by (if at all) and what power it is putting out. It's definitely fun to drive!!  :innocent:
Title: Re: Why map a diesel ?
Post by: chris-182 on April 23, 2014, 10:57:37 pm
If you don't drive fast or feel like you need more power a economy map might be worth while for you? should see decent gains on your MPG and will also smooth out any flat spots