MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: D8MOA on December 28, 2013, 10:16:13 pm
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went today for a friend as they have a silver ed30 forsale! drove the 3 hours from essex to find the biggest sack'O'crap ever!
was told its got history and is in perfect condition except for the mirror cover broken WELL we found alot more
-osf headlamp scratched badly
-nsf seat back torn
-rear bench seat torn
-no parcel shelf
-no spare wheel
-front bumper cracked
-poor paint all round car
-bald tyres
-both mirror cases broken
-rear cup holder missing
-2 wheels dented
-osf inner arch missing
i didnt even open the bonnet or look at the paperwork! im only posting this as they have some very nice cars listed on there very 'Professorial website' (which isnt where there cars are kept) and i wouldn't want anyone to deal with them!!
http://www.drivelinesportsandperformance.co.uk/
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i think i know who these chaps are they are friendly with someone down in bristol who deals with dodgy motors in the past the mk2 rs on there he had a few weeks back! they pakistanis by any chance
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What kind of dealer worth anything puts a load of pics up with the rear wiper screwed like that!!
I wouldn't have viewed it on that basis alone!!
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went today for a friend as they have a ed30 forsale! drove the 3 hours from essex to find the biggest sack'O'crap ever!
was told its got history and is in perfect condition except for the mirror cover broken WELL we found alot more
-osf headlamp scratched badly
-nsf seat back torn
-rear bench seat torn
-no parcel shelf
-no spare wheel
-front bumper cracked
-poor paint all round car
-bald tyres
-both mirror cases broken
-rear cup holder missing
-2 wheels dented
-osf inner arch missing
i didnt even open the bonnet or look at the paperwork! im only posting this as they have some very nice cars listed on there very 'Professorial website' (which isnt where there cars are kept) and i wouldn't want anyone to deal with them!!
http://www.drivelinesportsandperformance.co.uk/
Do you really expect perfect ED30 for £7k ??
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TBH,for 7k u won't expect a mint ed30 mate
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I paid 7k for mine and its perfect!! Mine is a cat d and so was the silver one we looked at today... i would have thought for 7k it be a half nice car even on a cat d
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What kind of dealer worth anything puts a load of pics up with the rear wiper screwed like that!!
I wouldn't have viewed it on that basis alone!!
Thats the black one... we went to view the silver one
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My extensive experience of car dealers makes me vary wary , a car like this one would need to be making them £1500 profit , makes it a £6k purchase . If it is cheap at a dealer there is a real issue with any car , whether it is visible or not . I would never buy anything that appears cheap .
Thanks for posting this
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£32k for an rs3 with mickey mouse wheels on ? .... No thanks lol
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They have had that silver one for sale for a very long time
It was on my list when I was looking but the no history and cat d put me off,just from a resale point of view
It was £7895 when I was looking
I got my 08 ed30 with full history for £8500 slightly more but worth the extra
7k is his top budget... his now looking at nice low mileage gti's. But thanks for the offer :happy2:
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They have had that silver one for sale for a very long time
It was on my list when I was looking but the no history and cat d put me off,just from a resale point of view
It was £7895 when I was looking
I got my 08 ed30 with full history for £8500 slightly more but worth the extra
7k is his top budget... his now looking at nice low mileage gti's. But thanks for the offer :happy2:
Mines not for sale lol, I was just saying how much I payed
Oh my bad lol sorry.... i keep winding him up saying he can have mine for 7k but he wasnt finding it funny on the wasted trip back from bimingham
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They have had that silver one for sale for a very long time
It was on my list when I was looking but the no history and cat d put me off,just from a resale point of view
It was £7895 when I was looking
I got my 08 ed30 with full history for £8500 slightly more but worth the extra
7k is his top budget... his now looking at nice low mileage gti's. But thanks for the offer :happy2:
Mines not for sale lol, I was just saying how much I payed
Will you take £8k cash?
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They will try their luck and hope someone buys the car.
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i think i know who these chaps are they are friendly with someone down in bristol who deals with dodgy motors in the past the mk2 rs on there he had a few weeks back! they pakistanis by any chance
yes they are of non English background.... there was about 13 of them too so didn't want to start any arguments lol
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i think i know who these chaps are they are friendly with someone down in bristol who deals with dodgy motors in the past the mk2 rs on there he had a few weeks back! they pakistanis by any chance
Lol I know exactly who you mean I reckon. Got Ferrari F430 yeah ;-)
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http://www.drivelinesportsandperformance.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0t-gti-edition-30-5dr-birmingham-201306037085856
That?
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Lots of cars on their website look too cheap to be true. Wouldn't even bother.
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Look through the cars on the website, they are all on V car as Cat C or Cat D, so clearly they are buying smashed up cars cheap, getting one of there bruva's to repair them and knocking them out for sale.
And id never buy a car from Birmingham!
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Look through the cars on the website, they are all on V car as Cat C or Cat D, so clearly they are buying smashed up cars cheap, getting one of there bruva's to repair them and knocking them out for sale.
And id never buy a car from Birmingham!
Stolen car parts to repair that's the usual thing with the higher end performance ones. Some of the cars 30% cheaper then similar cars
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http://www.drivelinesportsandperformance.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0t-gti-edition-30-5dr-birmingham-201306037085856
That?
Thats the one!! It was a cat D in feb 2012 so if they repaired it that means its been for sale a LONG TIME!!!
I went to look at a bmw320d for myself about 5 years ago and basically had the same experience as yeaterday!!! DO NOT BUY CARS FROM BIRMINGHAM haha
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they pakistanis by any chance
How is this even relevant?
When was the last time you said, "I'm not racist, but.....?"
I paid 7k for mine and its perfect!! Mine is a cat d and so was the silver one we looked at today... i would have thought for 7k it be a half nice car even on a cat d
I'm confused, genuinely and not taking the p*ss but how do 'Cat D' and 'Perfect' go together?
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I paid 7k for mine and its perfect!! Mine is a cat d and so was the silver one we looked at today... i would have thought for 7k it be a half nice car even on a cat d
I'm confused, genuinely and not taking the p*ss but how do 'Cat D' and 'Perfect' go together?
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Perfect condition is what i mean... 16000 miles from new and no expense spared on it but yes its a cat d.....
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£32k for an rs3 with mickey mouse wheels on ? .... No thanks lol
Weren't these a option? Either way not great.
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The other issue with cat c and d cars is you cant insure them nowadays most companies wont touch them and if you dont tell them they ll soon find out when you come to claim then you ll have no insurance any way !!!
They are not really a cheap way to buy a car
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The other issue with cat c and d cars is you cant insure them nowadays most companies wont touch them and if you dont tell them they ll soon find out when you come to claim then you ll have no insurance any way !!!
They are not really a cheap way to buy a car
I also have a cat d cbr1000rr and after a chat with my insurance company they say they do insure them BUT wont offer extras like agreed value etc! Also if you ever do write it off again they kick you in the nuts when it comes to payout time due to much lower value
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£32k for an rs3 with mickey mouse wheels on ? .... No thanks lol
They are the stock wheels. You can actually order those with the red on. :happy2:
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Look through the cars on the website, they are all on V car as Cat C or Cat D, so clearly they are buying smashed up cars cheap, getting one of there bruva's to repair them and knocking them out for sale.
And id never buy a car from Birmingham!
I was going to comment on this thread but AndyBohen saved me the bother ^^^^^^
I came across these guys a while ago when looking for an R32. Stay well clear.
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Looks like they are trying to get a better (aka worse!) reputation than Keighley :wink: :signLOL:
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Looks like they are trying to get a better (aka worse!) reputation than Keighley :wink: :signLOL:
That a refernce to Keighley Trade Centre? Should see the new site, they have taken over a multi story car park, had a walk round the other week, got lost in the place, must be a few £million worth of stock.
Found myself on the roof when i got lost and found a smashed up merc Vito van, seemed very strange.
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I've been looking at some cars at Keighley Trade Centre, sent them a few emails regarding mileage which wasn't shown on the adverts, got no answer, so that told me all I needed to know really.
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£7.2 k is bonkers cheap
I paid nearly 11k for a 42k 07 ed30 4 months ago which sounds a fortune compared to 7.2k
The car is spot on and is tight and we are very happy with it
You get what you pay for is what i have learnt to my expense with cars in the past
Now i am super fussy
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they pakistanis by any chance
andy a = How is this even relevant?
When was the last time you said, "I'm not racist, but.....?"
I'm confused, genuinely and not taking the p*ss but how do 'Cat D' and 'Perfect' go together?
Asking if the garage is Pakistani owned is relevant whilst identifying the garage being that it is.
Imagine whilst in Spain someone said the "English garage" would someone bother to claim racism?
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To be fair, I'm of non-English descent and it's the first question that came to mind.
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After looking at all the cars for sale on the website.........
Reminds me of another sales place in west yorkshire .. Seemingly cheap cars good specifications
Do not expect perfect cars for bottom dollar, this is no wheeler dealers
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To be fair, I'm of non-English descent and it's the first question that came to mind.
Case closed.
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I've been looking at some cars at Keighley Trade Centre, sent them a few emails regarding mileage which wasn't shown on the adverts, got no answer, so that told me all I needed to know really.
There are a few reasonable cars in there, but many questionable ones. Many are high milers ex reps cars & many have certain markers on them with a number of owners. :signLOL:
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I've been looking at some cars at Keighley Trade Centre, sent them a few emails regarding mileage which wasn't shown on the adverts, got no answer, so that told me all I needed to know really.
There are a few reasonable cars in there, but many questionable ones. Many are high milers ex reps cars & many have certain markers on them with a number of owners. :signLOL:
Cheers, I'll look further afield. :happy2:
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I've been looking at some cars at Keighley Trade Centre, sent them a few emails regarding mileage which wasn't shown on the adverts, got no answer, so that told me all I needed to know really.
There are a few reasonable cars in there, but many questionable ones. Many are high milers ex reps cars & many have certain markers on them with a number of owners. :signLOL:
Cheers, I'll look further afield. :happy2:
Sytner select often have a good choice of clean quality cars, got a nice r32 for sale in wakefield
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I went to look at the 1.9 TDI sport which is on there website still! Was terrible condition inside (stains all on the seats it looked like they hadn't even cleaned it) and staff weren't very helpful either.
Wouldn't buy anything from this garage
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Sytner select often have a good choice of clean quality cars, got a nice r32 for sale in wakefield
My car gets looked after by Sytner VW Knaresborough, although I'm just moving it to Sytner VW Leeds. The Sytner Select website is stocked from trade ins and oddballs which don't sell through the main dealers group. So if stuff is too old to retail on the forecourt or too high mileage etc. it gets farmed off through the select avenue. I keep an eye on that website as well, but finding just the right car is a long job. Took me 18 months to find the car I currently have and it's now been with us for 2 years. I'm looking now for something to replace it based on finding the right one in about a years time. :grin:
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they pakistanis by any chance
How is this even relevant?
When was the last time you said, "I'm not racist, but.....?"
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so you find that racist? like i said i think i know who they are and thats how i described them.. i like how even if the word pakistan gets mentioned now a days in the uk people class it as racist
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Asking if the garage is Pakistani owned is relevant whilst identifying the garage being that it is.
Imagine whilst in Spain someone said the "English garage" would someone bother to claim racism?
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To be fair, I'm of non-English descent and it's the first question that came to mind.
French?
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It's all very well and good saying that but it is kind of a bit racist to assume that they're dodgy because they're Afghani. We've all seen Rouge Traders but come on... in this day and age ANY person would sell a dodgy car, not just people who are from certain areas.
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It's the real world fellas and if you are naive enough when you walk into a "dealership" you are going to get stung. If you walk in with you eyes open, listen to the patter, body language etc, you aren't.
When I get an email in my junk filter from Nigeria, i don't open it because I'm racist, it's because if the Crown Prince of Lagos wants to rest £5,000,000 in my bank account, I'd rather decline the offer.
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It's the real world fellas and if you are naive enough when you walk into a "dealership" you are going to get stung. If you walk in with you eyes open, listen to the patter, body language etc, you aren't.
Which has nothing to do with their country of origin???
You can call it the "real world" if you want, real world is being buyer-savvy. Doesn't excuse racism.
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When I get an email in my junk filter from Nigeria, i don't open it because I'm racist, it's because if the Crown Prince of Lagos wants to rest £5,000,000 in my bank account, I'd rather decline the offer.
You better walk away from the £5m, he said it was mine!
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The other issue with cat c and d cars is you cant insure them nowadays most companies wont touch them and if you dont tell them they ll soon find out when you come to claim then you ll have no insurance any way !!!
They are not really a cheap way to buy a car
This is not a true fact ,
There are afew company's that don't insure them but most do .
Where do you think the cars come from ? The insurance company's sell them.
If they all stopped insureing them ,then nobody would buy them ,and they would be stuck with them .
It's in there intrest to insure them
Only a FEW companys will insure Categorised Cars , when you go to claim you will find out how much they value your car that their industry sold you .
A written off write off will be worth very little
If you do buy a Cat C or D repaired when you get the insurance as them to value your car first before you pay the premium :innocent:
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Isn't 'pikey' an offensive term?
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I recently rang this garage regarding a Mk5 GTi they had for sale.
Was promised a call back and no call received..!!
In the end, I rang back and the guy couldn't seem to remember the conversation and got told the car had been sold in a matter of couple of hours! Dodgy..!!!!
z%bz
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I once went to Keighley Trade Centre all the way from Surrey to look at a couple of Skylines. They were utter dogs as was 90% of the cars they had there. Almost like they were the cars no one else wanted to import.
This was before they had the reputation they now have, just google them and it should tell you all you need to know - avoid!
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I once went to Keighley Trade Centre all the way from Surrey to look at a couple of Skylines. They were utter dogs as was 90% of the cars they had there. Almost like they were the cars no one else wanted to import.
This was before they had the reputation they now have, just google them and it should tell you all you need to know - avoid!
Mad really as there stock list is quite exotic. Lambos, Ferraris etc
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No gti or edition 30 badges on the rear hatch , I would have thought that said it all ...PAINT JOB 99% OF THE TIME
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The other issue with cat c and d cars is you cant insure them nowadays most companies wont touch them and if you dont tell them they ll soon find out when you come to claim then you ll have no insurance any way !!!
They are not really a cheap way to buy a car
This is not a true fact ,
There are afew company's that don't insure them but most do .
Where do you think the cars come from ? The insurance company's sell them.
If they all stopped insureing them ,then nobody would buy them ,and they would be stuck with them .
It's in there intrest to insure them
Only a FEW companys will insure Categorised Cars , when you go to claim you will find out how much they value your car that their industry sold you .
A written off write off will be worth very little
If you do buy a Cat C or D repaired when you get the insurance as them to value your car first before you pay the premium :innocent:
Most insurance company WILL insure categorised cars,
And a cat c or d repaired vechile will still be worth money just not as much as a straight one ,, say if it's worth 4k straight they would still offer 3k easy ,,, so if the cars cheaper to start with then it's not a problem .
Very naive , most insurance companies will not , if you tell them about it in the quotation process , fail to notify them and they will rarely pay out a claim :innocent:
I have been involved with the vast majority of insurance companies for 27 years plus , but you believe what you like :innocent:
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As said above i have had cat c/d cars for the last 10 years and also have a cat d bike..... no issue insuring them at all
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As said above i have had cat c/d cars for the last 10 years and also have a cat d bike..... no issue insuring them at all
Have you disclosed their previous history and have you ever had to claim ?
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As said above i have had cat c/d cars for the last 10 years and also have a cat d bike..... no issue insuring them at all
Have you disclosed their previous history and have you ever had to claim ?
Yes thay have been told about the history but no.never had to claim
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The other issue with cat c and d cars is you cant insure them nowadays most companies wont touch them and if you dont tell them they ll soon find out when you come to claim then you ll have no insurance any way !!!
They are not really a cheap way to buy a car
This is not a true fact ,
There are afew company's that don't insure them but most do .
Where do you think the cars come from ? The insurance company's sell them.
If they all stopped insureing them ,then nobody would buy them ,and they would be stuck with them .
It's in there intrest to insure them
Only a FEW companys will insure Categorised Cars , when you go to claim you will find out how much they value your car that their industry sold you .
A written off write off will be worth very little
If you do buy a Cat C or D repaired when you get the insurance as them to value your car first before you pay the premium :innocent:
Most insurance company WILL insure categorised cars,
And a cat c or d repaired vechile will still be worth money just not as much as a straight one ,, say if it's worth 4k straight they would still offer 3k easy ,,, so if the cars cheaper to start with then it's not a problem .
Very naive , most insurance companies will not , if you tell them about it in the quotation process , fail to notify them and they will rarely pay out a claim :innocent:
I have been involved with the vast majority of insurance companies for 27 years plus , but you believe what you like :innocent:
Lol believe what you like ,, many people are driving round in categorised cars which they don't no about , are you saying they never get payed out ?? I have been driving cars for nearly 20 years and I've never had a problem , most of my cars have been insurance total lost, lots of my friends have them to .
Oh I should also add , I work in the salvage trade , have done for a number of years
When and if the day comes that insurance company's stop insuring the cars they sell ,they will have problems ,because nobody will buy the salvage
Copart sell hundreds of cars/bikes everyday not to mention hbc salvage / motorhog / bld .
That is all
Chris
If you work in the salvage trade what used to happen to repaired write offs that were put back on the road ?
They used to be examined by the Police for several reasons ( i am sure the DVLA told the police via a VQ13). We found 44 cars that had been sold as repaired write offs that were actually stolen cars cloned onto the identity of the categorised damaged car
They now get somebody from the VRO to do it , they have no contact with the Insurance database or insurance at all and haven't found any since they have been doing it ! VRO are not aware of the hidden identities given to the police and their locations either
If people are not telling Insurance companies they have a repaired write off they could be uninsured at worst or perhaps just as bad if they claim the payout can be refused or drastically reduced
Its a matter for them to tell or not , i am only pointing it out for people that are naive when it comes to everything that surrounds the purchase/insurance etc of a categorised car or van . I have seen many sad faces over the years from people who have fallen foul of one thing or another
As far as Cat C or D there is no problem having one or buying and repairing one , best to buy a damaged one and do it yourself , but you must be up front with Insurance and value etc
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As said above i have had cat c/d cars for the last 10 years and also have a cat d bike..... no issue insuring them at all
Have you disclosed their previous history and have you ever had to claim ?
Yes thay have been told about the history but no.never had to claim
Good for you , a claim would have opened your eyes a bit about their "Attitude" to repaired write offs
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I once went to Keighley Trade Centre all the way from Surrey to look at a couple of Skylines. They were utter dogs as was 90% of the cars they had there. Almost like they were the cars no one else wanted to import.
This was before they had the reputation they now have, just google them and it should tell you all you need to know - avoid!
Mad really as there stock list is quite exotic. Lambos, Ferraris etc
Car safety is not a concern of there's. Couple of years ago they sold an M3, both rear tyres had significant sidewall defects. When this was highlighted by the mechanic (no longer does work for them) he was told to swap the tyres round on the rear wheels so the bulges would be on the inner edge and let the car go out. Need i say more :surprised:
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Cat c/d cars are on the up as it's a lot easier to purchase them. I buy cars from copart mostly cat d corsas/clios with minor damage fix up and sell. Not as a business just as a small hobby and bit of cash earners. Always list for sale ad as being they are cat d etc they sell better then non damaged cars. Obviously because there cheaper. Never heard of insurance companies not insuring. Them.
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The only vehicle,s that have to be examined (Vic check) are cat c cars, cat d cars don't , commercial,s don't
And motorbikes don't .
As you said cat c and d's can be put back on the road . It's been happening for years and years .. You'd be surprised how many , how many people hpi a cheapish car ? Thousands will be driving round in cars that are write off,s
Are they uninsured ?? No
There's a difference between paying for insurance and having insurance cover. Insurers will quite happily take your premiums based on the facts given to them at the time the policy was taken out. In many cases they already know the previous history of the car which they're taking premiums for, and will simply refuse a claim if and when an accident claim is presented to them.
Do not assume that paying for insurance either monthly or annually means you have a valid insurance policy.
And as you say, it's entirely legal for Cat C and Cat d cars to be put back on the road, as is Cat B.
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Cat B Cannot be put back on the road , that is the whole point of Cat B and A
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Cat B Cannot be put back on the road , that is the whole point of Cat B and A
You're confusing the insurance industries standards with legal fact. Insurance requirements are that Category A and B cars are not to be returned to the road. If you as a private individual were to buy an insurance Cat B car, there is nothing in law to stop you repairing it and returning it to the road. Category A I guess you'd have a hard job returning to road use, but the same applies. As long as you repair it to road going standard, have the vehicle VIC checked, get it mot'd and taxed, and can find an insurance company prepared to insure you, it's entirely legal.
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Cat B Cannot be put back on the road , that is the whole point of Cat B and A
You're confusing the insurance industries standards with legal fact. Insurance requirements are that Category A and B cars are not to be returned to the road. If you as a private individual were to buy an insurance Cat B car, there is nothing in law to stop you repairing it and returning it to the road. Category A I guess you'd have a hard job returning to road use, but the same applies. As long as you repair it to road going standard, have the vehicle VIC checked, get it mot'd and taxed, and can find an insurance company prepared to insure you, it's entirely legal.
Unlikely to get insurance cover for a Cat B , only ones i know that have been put back on the road are rare cars sent back to the factory to be repaired and a TVR Griffith 500 that the owner had delivered to his house with 2 miles on the clock and he wrote it off doing around 90mph with less than 10 miles on the clock . It was returned to TVR to repair and they F@cked up and damaged the engine , they put another engine in it and didn't update the owner or DVLA . We then examined it and found the engine change !
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Cat B Cannot be put back on the road , that is the whole point of Cat B and A
You're confusing the insurance industries standards with legal fact. Insurance requirements are that Category A and B cars are not to be returned to the road. If you as a private individual were to buy an insurance Cat B car, there is nothing in law to stop you repairing it and returning it to the road. Category A I guess you'd have a hard job returning to road use, but the same applies. As long as you repair it to road going standard, have the vehicle VIC checked, get it mot'd and taxed, and can find an insurance company prepared to insure you, it's entirely legal.
Unlikely to get insurance cover for a Cat B ,
That's very likely. Although not being able to insure a car isn't the same as not being legal to put it back on the road. Which goes for Cat C and Cat D as well. The only people who can reasonably argue the case for being able to insure a written off car are the insurers who either will or won't accept the risk. After that, anyone claiming that they (insurers) will or won't provide cover is simply making assumptions. Personally, I believe insurers are less likely to offer cover for write offs, and certainly value them at less than a straight car if and when they need to pay out.
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The people who own this garage are probably Mirpuri. Most people who come from pakistan to this country are mirpuri and they aren't very educated. Mirpur is an area in pakistan where people are from the hills, basically put they are - gypsies/ jungle people. However not everyone is like that, even within that community. There are many well established pakistani businesses, look at James Caan etc.
I guess any garage you go to you will get a gut feeling about the place and the people who run it.