MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Golfgirl on September 22, 2009, 07:05:45 pm
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I'm never going to knock people with parking sensors again as I could have done with them today :sad1: (I still think they look gay and will never spec them on a car though!).
I reversed into a tree stump that was out of sight in my rear view mirror and now have a broken bumper and dented backbox :fighting:
Do I need an entire new bumper? Or just the valance (the bit under the part the number plate is attached to) or just the inset bit in the middle (the bit that's black on a normal GTI).
If anybody could post up pics off ETKA of the parts it would be appreciated, plus anywhere I could get one cheaper than VW? I'll give VW a call tomorrow for a price. I've noticed Awesome GTI sell them (click (http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=6816&xSec=156)) but is there anywhere else?
Any advice on the backbox appreciated too - it's only dented, there's no holes/cracks so would it be ok to leave? Are VW likely to say anything when I hand it back on my PCP plan? They have to expect a reasonable amount of wear & tear/scratches/scuffs etc. but what do they class as reasonable?
If anyone has a candy white bumper in mint condition, let me know :happy2:
Here's the damage:
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pictures would help :happy2:
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ouch sorry to here that golf girl, another member to the stealtwolf september curse
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pictures would help :happy2:
Sorry, I had them lined up ready but forgot to put the links in my first post (you replied whilst I was editing my post to include them!)
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If I still had my old exhaust u could have had it for nothing
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lower bumper 1K6 807 521 L this number is for the Pirelli but I presume they are the same, not cheap at nearly £400. The exhaust bock box is 1K6 253 609 BG again not cheap just over £300 you'll prob need the exhaust clip cos if its never been changed it may need cutting 1K0 253 141 D
Sorry to here your bad news by the way hope ya get it sorted easy enough.
Darren
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are we allowed to tie stealthwolf to a stake? :chicken:
sorry to hear see this :sad1:
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Sorry to hear about the damage. As RR will testify to the first JKM meetup, I reversed into a bollard that I hadn't noticed. Thankfully, the car bounced off it and there was no damage to the bumper. Less lucky for you.
I'd imagine the "wear and tear" would refer to stone chips and the odd kerbed rim rather than "damage" which is what your car has. A relative managed to damage the side skirt of her VW (scraped it on something) and she had the car on PCP, handed it back and never heard a word about it.
are we allowed to tie stealthwolf to a stake?
You can try all you want. All I'm doing is observing that last year around this time of year, there was a noticeable increase in the number of people having problems with their cars, and that this year the same thing seems to be occurring.
If there's a curse or jinx, I certainly didn't start it! :evilgrin:
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I'd imagine the "wear and tear" would refer to stone chips and the odd kerbed rim rather than "damage" which is what your car has.
Hmmmm, never really thought of it like that. Might be an excuse to get a Milltek :laugh: but I'll still have to find on original exhaust to put on when I hand the car back.
If I still had my old exhaust u could have had it for nothing
Cheers Mat :drinking:, never mind!
lower bumper 1K6 807 521 L this number is for the Pirelli but I presume they are the same, not cheap at nearly £400. The exhaust bock box is 1K6 253 609 BG again not cheap just over £300 you'll prob need the exhaust clip cos if its never been changed it may need cutting 1K0 253 141 D
Sorry to here your bad news by the way hope ya get it sorted easy enough.
Darren
Thanks Darren. Which bit of the bumper is the part number for? Just the inset bit or the whole lot below the number plate? Can't tell properly how many bits the bumper comes in.
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put on a milltek and keep quite when handing back the car. Doubt they wil notice, especialy if resonanted.
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i would doubt anyone noticing that exhaust like that!
Im sure theres loads of lumps and bumps on the sump covers of most cars, it doesnt stop it working, its just been used.
see the exhaust like that! ;)
now the bumper, i think youd have to replace that.
have a look on ebay, speak to some breakers
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Sorry to see this, looks like it wont be to much bother to repair, it could have been worse :scared: :happy2:
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Looking at that bumper I'd say any bodyshop should be able to repair it. I wouldn't worry about the exhaust. Just cosmetic ?
Chris.
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Looking at that bumper I'd say any bodyshop should be able to repair it.
But wouldn't you be able to tell that it's been broken in the past? I've never had experience of bodyshops so I don't know how good their work is?
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Well I rang two VW dealers today - both different branches of the same company.
The first one was rude on the phone. When I told him what part I wanted he said that there were so many different parts it could be he needed the chassis number (I didn't realise there were so many different bumpers for the Edition 30?!). After I told him I didn't have it to hand but he could have the registration number he told me that he couldn't proceed without the chassis number. So I kept him on the phone whilst I got my V5 out, gave him the chassis number and he came up with a price of 371.05 inc. VAT plus an estimate of £180 for spraying.
The second dealer was quite happy with just a registration number , but gave me a price of 40 something pounds. On questioning this he said it was the black piece of the bumper. I told him that it was colour coded and he disputed this saying that the chassis number I'd given him showed it was black. I told him (again) that it wasn't this part I needed but the entire lower half and he came up with £288.25 plus VAT (£331.49) but couldn't give me any idea on the price for spraying, and made no attempt to find out.
Trying other routes now to see if I can get it any cheaper, but will probably go back to the cheaper dealer, then go direct to the bodyshop.
Interesting how the prices vary though considering they are the same company?
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I'd persevere and try to find a bodyshop that will repair it. Looks to me like a bit of plastic welding and a quick fill, paint and done. I would avoid the bigger bodyshops as they probably won't want to look at it as their mainstay is insurance work , and if they did they'd charge to a small fortune . Find a smaller bodyshop , ask around friends with nice cars who care about them. Chances are someone will recommend someone they trust. Ask to look at some of their work too.
I wouldn't go paying the best part of £4-500 to replace it.
Chris.
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Valid point. :happy2:
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For plastic welding try one that specialises with motorbikes.
Where abouts are you? Just wondering if anyone here can point you in the right direction.
Plus don't worry about plastic welding surface results are amazing.
The back box will clean up too, so no worries there.
Btw sorry to hear the news such a beautiful car.
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Depending on where you are there is a company called 'Little Knocks' which specialises in similar repairs and has a few outlets I believe. I reckon that bumper can possibly be repaired.
http://littleknocks.co.uk/index.htm (http://littleknocks.co.uk/index.htm)
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I wouldn't be happy with it being repaired, I want a new one so I've decided to claim on my insurance :happy2:
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I wouldn't be happy with it being repaired, I want a new one so I've decided to claim on my insurance :happy2:
Claire its your car you have to go with what you thinks best, but it could be easily fixed, If you look through Plush automotive's build thread he knows a guy who is amazing at plastic welding. Also if you buy a new one that will still need colour matching, which is the hardest part of the job.
If you claim off your insurance you will be paying for it over the next 5 years, even if you have protected no claims, you still have to declare that you made a claim which will restrict the number of insurance companies willing to take you on therefore meaning you wont always have access to the cheapest quotes. :smiley:
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Claire whereabouts are you from ?
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Claire whereabouts are you from ?
Near Worcester.
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Well I've decided to claim on my insurance. I had a quote over and above my excess for buying the part and getting it sprayed and fitted. So I thought I'd make an insurance claim as I have guarateed NCB so I don't lose anything really.
I went to see the insurance assessor today and he confirmed that the lower valance and exhaust would be replaced. I get a courtesy car too so it's no major hassle really. Just need to book it in but I'm going to wait until I'm back off my holiday.
Only problem is I don't get to choose the bodyshop if I want the courtesy car but never mind.
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I wouldn't be happy with it being repaired, I want a new one so I've decided to claim on my insurance :happy2:
Claire its your car you have to go with what you thinks best, but it could be easily fixed, If you look through Plush automotive's build thread he knows a guy who is amazing at plastic welding. Also if you buy a new one that will still need colour matching, which is the hardest part of the job.
If you claim off your insurance you will be paying for it over the next 5 years, even if you have protected no claims, you still have to declare that you made a claim which will restrict the number of insurance companies willing to take you on therefore meaning you wont always have access to the cheapest quotes. :smiley:
Sorry, missed this post first time round.
The extra increase in premium over the next 3 years (that's how long you normally have to declare accidents for) probably won't be as much as the difference between my excess and the cost of a new valance and exhaust so I may as well get my money's worth out of the insurance company and just pay my excess.
I've been to two different bodyshops and they have both said they would be happier to replace than fix.
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Well I've decided to claim on my insurance. I had a quote over and above my excess for buying the part and getting it sprayed and fitted. So I thought I'd make an insurance claim as I have guarateed NCB so I don't lose anything really.
I went to see the insurance assessor today and he confirmed that the lower valance and exhaust would be replaced. I get a courtesy car too so it's no major hassle really. Just need to book it in but I'm going to wait until I'm back off my holiday.
Only problem is I don't get to choose the bodyshop if I want the courtesy car but never mind.
You can chose the body shop of you'r choice.I'm shure i read it on the net somewere,don't let them fob you off might be worth a Google ?.
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Ok, as I've mentioned in another thread I had the lower half of my bumper replaced after this incident last September. A couple of weeks ago I noticed a 'bulge'. I've not noticed it before and don't know what's caused it. It looks like it's sort of warped, or maybe it's not been bolted on properly and has caused it to flex slightly. Or is it normal?
Here's the pics - it is on the right hand side....
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It seems like I'm not the only one with the problem, as discussed here (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,16810.0/topicseen.html) but instead of trashing someone elses thread with my pics I've put it here in my original thread.
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I would say there is def something wrong there. Exhaust to close & the heat making it buldge?. I would be back to the garage that did the repair & get them to have a look.
Hope you get it sorted soon. :smiley:
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Your, ahem...bulge is in exactly the same place as Chips' I reckon! Sorry...! :ashamed:
We were looking under his Ed30 on Sunday speculating as to what it might have hit to put the lump in it but maybe it's normal although looking at Chips car we were convinced it didn't look right.
He might be able to get a photo of his up so we can do a comparison.
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well mate if you do change ill buy your old one off you
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I was trying to keep my bulge quiet JJ! :mad: :signLOL: Now you have mentioned it i suppose i will have to show it!!!
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Mine does look like it's been caught on something! Bit strange how its in the same place :confused:
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I was trying to keep my bulge quiet JJ!
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Fnarr!! I'd forgotten yours had visible damage mate. Maybe just a big coincidence then.
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No bulges on mine..........Thewww!!
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Chip - is yours the original or a replacement? And do you know if it has ever been removed and put back on?
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I couldn't tell you to be honest.It all looks original but i have only owned the car for 6 months so not sure of its history.Mine does look like it's been caught on something.If your not happy with it,take It back to the bodyshop that has done the work.Insurance work is normally guaranteed :happy2:
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Your, ahem...bulge is in exactly the same place as Chips' I reckon! Sorry...! :ashamed:
We were looking under his Ed30 on Sunday speculating as to what it might have hit to put the lump in it but maybe it's normal although looking at Chips car we were convinced it didn't look right.
He might be able to get a photo of his up so we can do a comparison.
John's right. It's a carbon copy of Chip's bumper.