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Title: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Pipps on January 08, 2014, 03:01:17 am
I am struggling to understand why so many current vendors are asking £10-11k for GTi ED30s, when the the current market value (before minor spec adjustments) is only around £7,800 (link (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/prices/used/volkswagen/golf/gti-2005/35714/?yearplate=84)).

I am not talking about anyone in particular here - this is just my initial disbelief after browsing AutoTrader, PistonHeads, and several forums. Many normal GTis are being sold at around market value, but all the ED30s seem to be around £2k more than their list prices. Why?

I appreciate that many of the Edition 30s currently for sale have had additional aftermarket work performed - e.g. an uprated air intake costing £300-400 - but what else can possible account for an extra £2-3k which is being asked for?

Is it just me, or are Edition 30 vendors slightly out of touch with market value?

I would be grateful to know if there is something I am missing here. Thanks
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: edewer on January 08, 2014, 07:04:48 am
I don't think they're overpriced at all really.

At the end of the day a car worth what people are willing to pay, not what Glass's guide, Cap or anyone else recommend. After all, none of these valuation companies will actually buy your vehicle. They're simply controlled by a board of industry big wigs who want to manipulate the market.

The Edition 30 is very much a car of the moment and so prices are being driven up as a result. Owners are asking what they feel is the value to them, and buyers are paying the money, therefore creating a new market value, even if it's not what's written in a dealer principals book.

So I wouldn't say they are overpriced at all. I do agree in that I'm a little intrigued as to why they're currently £2-3k more desirable than a gti (especially when I own a very high spec gti) but it's the way of the market, and if I was an Edition 30 owner right now I'd be flipping pleased about the way things are going
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: richtung on January 08, 2014, 08:03:33 am
I think its just a simple case of supply and demand...

Rich
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: skard on January 08, 2014, 08:20:32 am
If those cars are overpriced, then why are they selling privately for £9000 and more? Those guides are extremely generic.

It is hard to find a good one, many have CAT C or D, and as mentioned there is a greater demand than supply.

The 25th Anniversary is an 11-12 year old diesel yet still sells for £5k.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: garrardrj on January 08, 2014, 08:29:22 am
Being an ED30 owner i would be biased but when you look at what you would have to pay to upgrade it to a newer version (2010 Golf R or ED35) around £10-13 k plus the ED30 gives great value for money priced at £9 -12k . Having had mine for 3 years i have been looking at replacing it with a Golf R , S3 , Audi Avant etc i cannot really say that if i spend another £10 - 13k i will have any real "Driving" benefit other than having a 10 plate against a 07 plate . I think as my car has only done 22300 miles makes it still like driving a new car and the test drives are not any improvement like you normally get by driving a newer car , you can normally feel it . so for the time being i will be keeping it unless something different jumps out of Pistonheads/Autotrader/Ebay at me  :innocent:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 08, 2014, 08:54:55 am
Don't look for white even they cost more  :signLOL: they are 100% worth the money if they were crap so many of us would not have kept them 7 years now like I have.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: MC71 on January 08, 2014, 09:03:40 am
I am struggling to understand why so many current vendors are asking £10-11k for GTi ED30s, when the the current market value (before minor spec adjustments) is only around £7,800 (link (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/prices/used/volkswagen/golf/gti-2005/35714/?yearplate=84)).

I am not talking about anyone in particular here - this is just my initial disbelief after browsing AutoTrader, PistonHeads, and several forums. Many normal GTis are being sold at around market value, but all the ED30s seem to be around £2k more than their list prices. Why?

I appreciate that many of the Edition 30s currently for sale have had additional aftermarket work performed - e.g. an uprated air intake costing £300-400 - but what else can possible account for an extra £2-3k which is being asked for?

Is it just me, or are Edition 30 vendors slightly out of touch with market value?

I would be grateful to know if there is something I am missing here. Thanks

Well, don't buy one then!!

You can have mine for £22k if you want, no wait, I'm out of touch!  :stupid:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Deago on January 08, 2014, 09:49:46 am
Anything is worth as much as someone is willing to pay. This works both ways, with ED30's people will pay north of 10000 if it's right spec. They're in demand! I payed a good whack more than 7800 for my regular Gti
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: VEA on January 08, 2014, 11:11:23 am
I've been looking recently, and I have to agree, a car is worth what people are willing to pay for it.

I am also selling a car at the moment and the "guide price" of it is around 4k under what the "real" market value of it appears to be. Guides are exactly that, guides.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: DANBOY66 on January 08, 2014, 11:14:35 am
Hi everyone

I feel I paid a little over the odds for my car
I needed a car as my car was stolen and it had the exact spec apart from the stereo
3 door
Dsg
Grey
40000 miles
Highline dash
Steering wheel controls
2008MY
Sometimes you have to pay for what you want and getting a grand more from my insurance company for my old car was worth just made it feel a little better
Hopefully it will still be worth a bit more than the gti's when I sell it

I love this car and do not even think about how much it cost when I started looking I thought I might find a bargain as I am pretty good at finding a good deal but soon realised that was never going to happen
Dan..
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: MC71 on January 08, 2014, 11:59:53 am
^^^^ Buying it the cheap bit, modding it is the expensive part in my experience!  :wink:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Deago on January 08, 2014, 12:04:15 pm
^^^^ Buying it the cheap bit, modding it is the expensive part in my experience!  :wink:

Was putting away a invoice for something done on my car and did the dreaded "lets add these all up and see how much i've spent so far"  :confused:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: MC71 on January 08, 2014, 12:14:07 pm
^^^^ Rookie error right there! Never add it up and never EVER let your wife add it up!! I've had the raised eyebrow more than a few times!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: D Squared on January 08, 2014, 12:26:38 pm
agreed, thay are expensive, i couldn't stretch that bit further to get one....shame..
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 08, 2014, 12:31:53 pm
Think you will find that with threads like this the ED30 owners will be very defensive over their pride and joy and of course say it is worth every penny.

For someone who isn't bothered about some red thread around bit of the upholstery and painted bumpers nor the 30bhp extra then it it's a TREMENDOUS premium over a normal GTI.

It's still the same chassis, similar engine just with some fancy bits of trim and bearing in mind the later generation golf is only a couple of thousand £'s more. . .

Then again, the people who know of the potential of the engine and want to pay for the luxury of having a limited edition GTI (it is a luxury as the stock GTI is a great hot hatch)  then they are willing to pay for it.

As others have said, if people will pay the money then to them it's worth the money. It's a car you buy with your heart rather than your head with the stock GTI being very good as it is.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Deago on January 08, 2014, 12:39:36 pm
^^^^ Rookie error right there! Never add it up and never EVER let your wife add it up!! I've had the raised eyebrow more than a few times!  :laugh:

I just named my car after the girlfriend, then if anyone asks, i spend all my money on her and its technically not a lie....  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: garrardrj on January 08, 2014, 12:47:56 pm
I've been looking recently, and I have to agree, a car is worth what people are willing to pay for it.

I am also selling a car at the moment and the "guide price" of it is around 4k under what the "real" market value of it appears to be. Guides are exactly that, guides.

What car is that then ?
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Eddie-NL on January 08, 2014, 12:50:04 pm
If people are prepared to pay over the odds then they will be priced that way

as time goes by the lower mileage pristine examples will fetch even more

Could also be that people over price them so they don't sell :wink:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: skriller on January 08, 2014, 12:52:18 pm
It's a car you buy with your heart rather than your head

THIS :love:



I looked for months for the car I had been dreaming of, ever since it arrived at one of my local dealers when they first came out I wanted one.

The Ed30 to me is an amazing car.

I don't feel like I had paid a premium as it was the car I was looking for and with the options that I wanted. (Don't forget they are limit in number and spec) I also bought mine from a dealer which came with warranty and full service and 1500 spent on it to make it like new!

It also helped that it was as clean and looked after like new by the previous owner. with 32k on the clock it was spanking.

Premium or not, you still end up with what you pay for.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: garrardrj on January 08, 2014, 12:52:26 pm
Think you will find that with threads like this the ED30 owners will be very defensive over their pride and joy and of course say it is worth every penny.

For someone who isn't bothered about some red thread around bit of the upholstery and painted bumpers nor the 30bhp extra then it it's a TREMENDOUS premium over a normal GTI.

It's still the same chassis, similar engine just with some fancy bits of trim and bearing in mind the later generation golf is only a couple of thousand £'s more. . .

Then again, the people who know of the potential of the engine and want to pay for the luxury of having a limited edition GTI (it is a luxury as the stock GTI is a great hot hatch)  then they are willing to pay for it.

As others have said, if people will pay the money then to them it's worth the money. It's a car you buy with your heart rather than your head with the stock GTI being very good as it is.  :happy2:

and some GTI owners who haven't got one are jealous  , the engine is by far NOT similar :innocent:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Pipps on January 08, 2014, 12:58:18 pm
Thanks for all the replies, chaps.

I guess the ED30 is just one of those cars which has bucked the trend and not followed any of the industry's anticipated depreciation curves.

To be fair, that is understandable. Only a limited quantity were ever made. They have generally been owned by enthusiasts who have looked after them more. And they have rather unique future tuning potential. I can accept all of this as justification for this car being an anomaly.

I just hope that if I pay what might technically be considered 'over the odds' for one now, that I will not loose out at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: garrardrj on January 08, 2014, 01:00:46 pm
I think it will be sought after for many years to come , a 25th Anniversary is still worth £5k at 12 years old ish  , if the miles aren't sky high , but they are a bit dated now
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 08, 2014, 01:18:31 pm
Think you will find that with threads like this the ED30 owners will be very defensive over their pride and joy and of course say it is worth every penny.

For someone who isn't bothered about some red thread around bit of the upholstery and painted bumpers nor the 30bhp extra then it it's a TREMENDOUS premium over a normal GTI.

It's still the same chassis, similar engine just with some fancy bits of trim and bearing in mind the later generation golf is only a couple of thousand £'s more. . .

Then again, the people who know of the potential of the engine and want to pay for the luxury of having a limited edition GTI (it is a luxury as the stock GTI is a great hot hatch)  then they are willing to pay for it.

As others have said, if people will pay the money then to them it's worth the money. It's a car you buy with your heart rather than your head with the stock GTI being very good as it is.  :happy2:

and some GTI owners who haven't got one are jealous  , the engine is by far NOT similar :innocent:

Similar covers it tbh. A bigger turbo is the main feature (I could list the complete list if differences but this comes down to my point that that this is an enthusiasts car. If your bothered about the detail then it's your kind of car - joe blogs sees a TFSI  in both GTI & Ed30 with a 30bhp difference in power), it's still a TFSI !!

I guess some GTI owners are jealous, it's the best MK5 you could get, no doubt about that. If you mean by that that I am jealous, I could have had the pic of the Ed30's if I had wanted but didn't fancy another Golf at the time.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Hedge on January 08, 2014, 02:32:21 pm
Ed30 is good but it's no .:R32.  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: rich83 on January 08, 2014, 02:34:00 pm
A good clean example of an Edition 30 with moderate mileage and decent spec is still worth 10-11k in my opinion. (i dont care what the guides say)

R32s are an interesting one as pre 2006 you get cheap tax but high mileage will put some people off, post 2006 you get lower mileage but sky high tax which will put folk off.... they are a double edged  porksword
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: VEA on January 08, 2014, 03:04:34 pm

What car is that then ?

Z4MC
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Wooosh on January 08, 2014, 04:11:45 pm
The edition 30 has

- 230bhp Engine which is more like a detuned S3 engine with the K04 turbocharger and other bits
- 18" BBS Pescara Alloys as standard (GTi has 17" Monzas as standard)
- Half Leather seats which are heated and have electric lumbar support
- All the lower skirts & bumpers around the Edition 30 are colour coded (looks better in my IMHO)
- Smoked Rear Light Lens (same as the R32)
- Red stitching on the seats, mats, steering wheel & gear knob plus Edition 30 badges

280-300bhp easily obtainable with the right mapping (Revo, R-Tech or APR) :happy2:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: arris on January 08, 2014, 05:47:29 pm
Way I looked at it was if I had got a normal gti, I'd have spent the extra painting bumpers, getting the nicer interior etc...

So was better just to pay the extra and hope when I come to sell it holds value better.

Plus bigger turbo helped sway my decision  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Scottymon on January 08, 2014, 06:00:50 pm
If you try and make a GTI an Edition 30 with all the associated bits, skirts/rear valance/wheels/colour code/injectors/k04/reloc./half leathers/rear clusters you'll have spent the difference.

That said, the Ed should definitely have been given the R32 brakes as standard from the parts bin to make it a more rounded package. :happy2:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 08, 2014, 06:24:27 pm
And the engine block is not the same as a normal gti it's stronger inside so a gti even with ko4 is not an ed30
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: GTI-Pirelli on January 08, 2014, 06:33:33 pm
The edition 30 has

- 230bhp Engine which is more like a detuned S3 engine with the K04 turbocharger and other bits
- 18" BBS Pescara Alloys as standard (GTi has 17" Monzas as standard)
- Half Leather seats which are heated and have electric lumbar support
- All the lower skirts & bumpers around the Edition 30 are colour coded (looks better in my IMHO)
- Smoked Rear Light Lens (same as the R32)
- Red stitching on the seats, mats, steering wheel & gear knob plus Edition 30 badges

280-300bhp easily obtainable with the right mapping (Revo, R-Tech or APR) :happy2:


And if you fancy:

The same stronger K04 engine.
18" 5 spoke Limited edition Pirelli alloys
1/2 leather seats with tyre tread instead of tartan
All the same exterior colour coded trim extras
Smoked rear lights
Yellow stitching on the seats, steering wheel, handbrake lever & gear knob plus Pirelli badges

Then there is another option!

 :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Scottymon on January 08, 2014, 06:47:22 pm
When will the Rocco R's be hitting £10k?  Thought they'd stop maknig them!! :party:

Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: sanj on January 08, 2014, 08:35:57 pm
Loved my Edition30,would'nt have bought any other golf until I had enough money to buy the MK6 'R' i'm driving now,it's the only Golf GTI i'd ever go back to. :smiley:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: skriller on January 08, 2014, 10:55:18 pm
Loved my Edition30,would'nt have bought any other golf until I had enough money to buy the MK6 'R' i'm driving now,it's the only Golf GTI i'd ever go back to. :smiley:

I like you.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: big eck on January 09, 2014, 01:35:34 am
Another option is to buy the MK2 Leon Cupra, newer, more spec as standard and better suspension as standard as well. They have the stronger CDL engine and K04 turbo. They may be a bit blander than the ED30 but the money you save on buying one makes up for that lol.

Just a thought  :P
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Jonneh on January 09, 2014, 10:02:01 am
Another option is to buy the MK2 Leon Cupra, newer, more spec as standard and better suspension as standard as well. They have the stronger CDL engine and K04 turbo. They may be a bit blander than the ED30 but the money you save on buying one makes up for that lol.

Just a thought  :P

The interiors are awful in Cupras!

You buy an Edition 30 because you want the best Mk5 Golf you can get. I bought mine for a fair wedge but it's low mileage all the spec, the right colour and from a vw dealer. The ones I saw from private sellers were the same price but with none of the warranties, cover etc etc. In my eyes, worth every penny too.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: mo on January 09, 2014, 10:36:02 am
I really wanted a 5dr S3 with DSG but at the time i was changing from my mk4 GTI they had only just come out and i couldn't justify spending 30 odd grand. So i got an Ed30.
Glad i did too. With my mk4 i spent shed loads on body kit and alloys & suspension etc to make it look like an anniversary and decided that that i wouldn't go down that route again.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Joesoap on January 09, 2014, 11:26:15 am
Another option is to buy the MK2 Leon Cupra, newer, more spec as standard and better suspension as standard as well. They have the stronger CDL engine and K04 turbo. They may be a bit blander than the ED30 but the money you save on buying one makes up for that lol.

Just a thought  :P

The interiors are awful in Cupras!

You buy an Edition 30 because you want the best Mk5 Golf you can get. I bought mine for a fair wedge but it's low mileage all the spec, the right colour and from a vw dealer. The ones I saw from private sellers were the same price but with none of the warranties, cover etc etc. In my eyes, worth every penny too.

X2 same as you ...you pay for what you want and these cars a very limited when it comes to colour and spec you want  :smiley:

Ps Grey for the win  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: garrardrj on January 09, 2014, 11:37:45 am
Another option is to buy the MK2 Leon Cupra, newer, more spec as standard and better suspension as standard as well. They have the stronger CDL engine and K04 turbo. They may be a bit blander than the ED30 but the money you save on buying one makes up for that lol.

Just a thought  :P

The interiors are awful in Cupras!

You buy an Edition 30 because you want the best Mk5 Golf you can get. I bought mine for a fair wedge but it's low mileage all the spec, the right colour and from a vw dealer. The ones I saw from private sellers were the same price but with none of the warranties, cover etc etc. In my eyes, worth every penny too.

You won't find many Ed30s at VW Dealers now . Also you can buy a warranty from many warranty providers whoever you buy from . Most ED30's now will have generally been owned by people who know what they are and know their value , they will have been generally well looked after .

When it comes to spec i am surprised that people are influenced so much by it . Xenons i can understand if you drive at night alot and the ICE , but the other stuff , is it really worth much ? You can retrofit nearly everything afterwards and cheaper than VW do it for . So the base car would be my first priority in the colour , doors and gearbox i wanted follwed by mileage and then everything else secondary  :innocent:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: clubsport on January 09, 2014, 03:44:04 pm
Prices do seem to be all over the place.

I am looking for an Ed30 maybe a Pirelli, but am in no real rush.

As these cars are a little older, have had a few owners and are now out of warranty, it makes sense that not all cars for sale are of the same standard.

I recently missed, what appeared to be a nice 34k mile Pirelli at a dealer for under £12k.  I enquired, but could not get to the other end of the country for a few days.

The car sold, but you do tend to find cars offered as private sales at prices even higher than some dealers?

Personally I don't think prices change much for now, but it will be a while before we see any appreciation of the Ed30 as a collectors piece, they did make quite a few of them!
I'll keep an eye open for a nice, honest 5 door
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: sanj on January 09, 2014, 08:38:24 pm
Loved my Edition30,would'nt have bought any other golf until I had enough money to buy the MK6 'R' i'm driving now,it's the only Golf GTI i'd ever go back to. :smiley:

I like you.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: gobbleplease on January 10, 2014, 12:33:50 am
The edition 30 has held its value so well because -

1) vw has a huge cult following who will pretty much only buy vw or always look to buy a VW
2) One of the best if not the best gti ever built is the mk5 IMO - No doubt someone will pipe up and says eh no it's not its the mk2 - well why didn't you save your self 5k and buy a mk 2 then ?
3) The edition 30 is the pick of the Mk and has a huge tuning potential with the best 4 pot vw has ever made couple this with     limited numbers and you have a limited supply with a high demand which will push up the prices.

Also for 10-11k I really can't think of anything on a 57 plate that's better for similar money ? Can anyone else ?
Sure we can go back to 2004 and say a 70k m3 but having owned one I'd rather have the Eddy modded.

Look at other cars in a similar position mk2 focus rs - amazing car with brand loyal enthusiasts and holding its value unbelievably well I bought mine new kept it a year and the dealer bought it back off me for nearly as much as I bought it for.

A well specced nice example of an edition 30 will command a further premium to enthusiast -

Having had both mk5  GTis and ed 30s  in the past I'd say you can easily have the same fun in a 2+ gti as you could in a 2+ eddy obviously not quite as fast but not worth the upgrade if you already have a gti in the first place however if you are going ko4 on a gti it makes financial sense to sell the gti and buy the eddy and I would always recommend a eddy over a gti to a first time buyer

In conclusion why are good ones going for 10-12k ? Simple because it's one one of the very best cars you can buy right now in its class and with a few quid spent in the right places it can become a completely awesome tool yet still retaining every bit of drivability you'd expect from a daily

The edition 30 one of the very best vws ever made ! :congrats:

Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: rich83 on January 10, 2014, 12:40:05 am
Find me a 10k car with 300bhp... 14second 1/4m... 5 doors for family freindlyness... Big enough to fit a load of sh*te in... Will do 35MPG on a run.... aesthetically pleasing... Drives reasonably well. GO!  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: xjay1337 on January 10, 2014, 01:21:44 am
. It's a car you buy with your heart rather than your head with the stock GTI being very good as it is.  :happy2:

Sure it's not just so people can try to make themselves a bit more "exclusive" over the more common GTI?
 :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Hurdy on January 10, 2014, 01:25:19 am
. It's a car you buy with your heart rather than your head with the stock GTI being very good as it is.  :happy2:

Sure it's not just so people can try to make themselves a bit more "exclusive" over the more common GTI?
 :signLOL: :signLOL:

The Edition 30 was a limited edition run of 1500 cars........that is fairly exclusive!

It is just that VW themselves forgot to turn off the production line at that point!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Gra on January 10, 2014, 07:39:01 am
Well I paid £14500 for my pirelli last year still only done 34k miles at the mo but I was happy to pay it as she is so dam beautiful!! Lol


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Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Scottymon on January 10, 2014, 07:39:28 am
Find me a 10k car with 300bhp... 14second 1/4m... 5 doors for family freindlyness... Big enough to fit a load of sh*te in... Will do 35MPG on a run.... aesthetically pleasing... Drives reasonably well. GO!  :popcornsoda:

SAAB 9-5 Aero
Mazda 3 MPS
Volvo V50 T5
Focus ST
Audi S3
Leon K1
Megane various....


Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: rich83 on January 10, 2014, 09:35:11 am
Find me a 10k car with 300bhp... 14second 1/4m... 5 doors for family freindlyness... Big enough to fit a load of sh*te in... Will do 35MPG on a run.... aesthetically pleasing... Drives reasonably well. GO!  :popcornsoda:

SAAB 9-5 Aero **** will break
Mazda 3 MPS **** will blow up and won't do 35mpg
Volvo V50 T5 **** (should have said hatchback)
Focus ST **** won't do 35mpg in a million years
Audi S3 **** 10k? Really
Leon K1 **** yeah I guess so :-)
Megane various.... **** if you want to drive around in a tin foil shell



Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Scottymon on January 10, 2014, 10:17:19 am
Find me a 10k car with 300bhp... 14second 1/4m... 5 doors for family freindlyness... Big enough to fit a load of sh*te in... Will do 35MPG on a run.... aesthetically pleasing... Drives reasonably well. GO!  :popcornsoda:

SAAB 9-5 Aero **** will break... Mine had waaaaay less problems than the GTI
Mazda 3 MPS **** will blow up and won't do 35mpg.... Lol, neither true
Volvo V50 T5 **** (should have said hatchback)... More cubic footage-idge-at-bility
Focus ST **** won't do 35mpg in a million years... You didn't say downhills weren't allowed
Audi S3 **** 10k? Really... Ish
Leon K1 **** yeah I guess so :-)
Megane various.... **** if you want to drive around in a tin foil shell... True.






Re MPG although stage 1/2 eddy will do 35mpg, the only way it will is driving it off boost and cruising, most of the cars above will achieve that in the same fashion, had 40mpg outta the 9-5 aero... But seriously the mk5 gti is a great car, the addition of the k04 made it shine.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 10, 2014, 01:18:06 pm
Find me a 10k car with 300bhp... 14second 1/4m... 5 doors for family freindlyness... Big enough to fit a load of sh*te in... Will do 35MPG on a run.... aesthetically pleasing... Drives reasonably well. GO!  :popcornsoda:

SAAB 9-5 Aero **** will break
Mazda 3 MPS **** will blow up and won't do 35mpg
Volvo V50 T5 **** (should have said hatchback)
Focus ST **** won't do 35mpg in a million years
Audi S3 **** 10k? Really
Leon K1 **** yeah I guess so :-)
Megane various.... **** if you want to drive around in a tin foil shell




Focus ST WILL do 35mpg - I ran one for a year and 36mpg is possible on a steady cruise (this was before a map which is supposed to make it better).

The 5pot sound is epic throughout the rev range (with pops & bangs on the overrun) and the seats in the ST3 are great, the thigh support makes it a very comfortable GT car.

Dont knock it until you have tried one  :happy2:

Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: rich83 on January 10, 2014, 01:23:25 pm
I have driven one and loved it, but the owner of it said the MPG was a crippler! Like you say the 5 pot is lovely!
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Joesoap on January 10, 2014, 01:41:25 pm
Wouldn't take a Gift of a FORD and don't like them ST's at all  :sick:
Got a proper Run in an RS Focus and it was crap, even have a video somewhere  :smiley:

My Wee Grey high Spec Edition with 24K will do me.
Still have my mk4 Anni TDI love it to, on classie insurance now :)
Golfs are for keeps

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy243%2Ftestuser111%2FDSC00872_zps89128096.jpg&hash=65db807d1945a7bfa56527c29d46734932375d4c)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy243%2Ftestuser111%2FIMG_1595_zps8dcef517.jpg&hash=1e5e5c6987b5b81f08504106e58fa61c0a6d6ad6)
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: xjay1337 on January 10, 2014, 02:04:24 pm
I have driven one and loved it, but the owner of it said the MPG was a crippler! Like you say the 5 pot is lovely!

Was that the fat gingers car?

Did sound nice.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: skriller on January 10, 2014, 03:07:26 pm
I have driven one and loved it, but the owner of it said the MPG was a crippler! Like you say the 5 pot is lovely!

Was that the fat gingers car?

Did sound nice.

From Newcastle?
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: rich83 on January 10, 2014, 04:26:09 pm
No not from Newcastle.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: skriller on January 10, 2014, 06:10:10 pm
ok lol.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: martin@gti.co.uk on January 11, 2014, 09:52:07 am
They seem to be a bit overpriced. Would rather get S3 with quattro as 300 bhp without LSD is useless..
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: rich83 on January 11, 2014, 09:55:10 am
They seem to be a bit overpriced. Would rather get S3 with quattro as 300 bhp without LSD is useless..

I've don't have an LSD.... Copes fine in most cases.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Jonathon555 on January 11, 2014, 10:11:03 am
You get what you pay for ....

We paid: £10,900 for a super clean 42k ED30 6 months ago, same dealer is still getting the same money for them today as they are good sellers. He gets more money for 07 plate s3 & R32's , they all sell very well.

When i was looking there were very few under 10k for sale. Now there are a some at around 9k

There is an 09 plate Ed30 on PH for £4300. This week

So over priced NO, in demand YES



Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: MC71 on January 11, 2014, 10:56:00 am
You get what you pay for ....

We paid: £10,900 for a super clean 42k ED30 6 months ago, same dealer is still getting the same money for them today as they are good sellers. He gets more money for 07 plate s3 & R32's , they all sell very well.

When i was looking there were very few under 10k for sale. Now there are a some at around 9k

There is an 09 plate Ed30 on PH for £4300. This week

So over priced NO, in demand YES

 :confused:


Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Jonathon555 on January 11, 2014, 11:12:11 am
You get what you pay for ....

We paid: £10,900 for a super clean 42k ED30 6 months ago, same dealer is still getting the same money for them today as they are good sellers. He gets more money for 07 plate s3 & R32's , they all sell very well.

When i was looking there were very few under 10k for sale. Now there are a some at around 9k

There is an 09 plate Ed30 on PH for £4300. This week

So over priced NO, in demand YES

 :confused:




It,s gone now.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: billyjo76 on January 11, 2014, 05:00:02 pm
ive got an 08 plate candy white ed30, its only done 10,000 miles.. i intend to hold on to that for a while, its absolute pristine, underneath is like brand new, not a mark anywhere, so hopefully in time these will start to increase in value, no way will i be giving this away for 8k..... as people say you get what ya pay for i guess..
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: billyjo76 on January 11, 2014, 05:18:14 pm

There is an 09 plate Ed30 on PH for £4300. This week




Hard to believe

dont think it will have been a minter...  got to be something wrong for it to be that cheap
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: rich83 on January 11, 2014, 05:19:04 pm
Will have been a write off..
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: nigw on January 11, 2014, 05:33:51 pm

There is an 09 plate Ed30 on PH for £4300. This week




Hard to believe

Yeah, it wasnt a genuine ad - anyone that thinks it was would be crazy! It was one of those scam ads where they include email address in the photo and ask you to contact them directly.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: N8KOW on January 11, 2014, 05:36:54 pm
I've owned my TR ED30 since Novemeber, I love it. It's just such a great car. I'm coming from an Audi A3 which I owned brand new for 5 and 1/2 years.

For around the £10K mark with DSG NOTHING touches it. It just has so much potential. It's a nice looking car, superb build quality, sporty, practical, looks that little bit nicer over the GTI IMO.

Well happy with mine.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 11, 2014, 06:31:52 pm
ive got an 08 plate championship white ed30, its only done 10,000 miles.. i intend to hold on to that for a while, its absolute pristine, underneath is like brand new, not a mark anywhere, so hopefully in time these will start to increase in value, no way will i be giving this away for 8k..... as people say you get what ya pay for i guess..

Pretty sure it's CANDY WHITE. Championship White is Honda paint  :wink:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: skriller on January 11, 2014, 10:44:59 pm
DSG NOTHING touches it. It just has so much potential. It's a nice looking car, superb build quality, sporty, practical.

Well happy with mine.

Im exactly the same... I get excited when I know I get to go for a cruise in it... may sound sad but I do get genuinely excited  :driver:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Jonathon555 on January 11, 2014, 10:45:42 pm
Lad round the corner from me is putting his ED30 up for sale on monday

08 plate Candy white 5 door
DSG
36 k full optioned up

According to parkers the car is  £9395.00

But he will be putting up for £12k and will probably sell somewhere near

Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: N8KOW on January 12, 2014, 02:49:38 pm
Im exactly the same... I get excited when I know I get to go for a cruise in it... may sound sad but I do get genuinely excited  :driver:

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: dmac1969 on January 12, 2014, 06:36:24 pm
The dealer I use (GTI World in Edinburgh) sold a CW 3 door Ed30 a few months ago , 44 mins after it appeared on their Facebook page! They said its the quickest they have ever sold a car , ever - so they are definately still in demand!
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: skard on January 12, 2014, 09:48:05 pm
The dealer I use (GTI World in Edinburgh) sold a CW 3 door Ed30 a few months ago , 44 mins after it appeared on their Facebook page! They said its the quickest they have ever sold a car , ever - so they are definately still in demand!

Good news, hopefully mine will not hang about in a few months when 'it is time'
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: Pipps on January 14, 2014, 03:06:13 pm
Thanks for all the great responses, guys. Thought provoking stuff. I can now appreciate more why the ED30s are holding their prices so well. Sure makes it hard for prospective buyers, though!

So yesterday I purchased an MK5 GTi 3dr DSG. Collecting it tomorrow. Exact spec that I was looking for: silver, full leather interior, DSG (working flawlessly), spot-on average mileage, FVWSH, totally standard with no mods. Dealership has provided an interim service, new tyres, full valet, and 12 months MOT. Cost me just under £7k - bang-on the Parkers price. I just had to drive 120 miles oop North to get it. Worth it, though.

I simply couldn't justify another £4k for the equivalent spec ED30 at the VW dealership down the road from me. They wanted over £11k. And IMO owning an ED30 without tastefully tuning it would be a crime.

The main reason for this, is that I will be using the car as my daily driver company vehicle. But if I decide to get into modding one day, then maybe an ED30 would be worthwhile then.

Although when I probably sell this Golf GTi in 3-5 years time, it'll probably by then be worth around £5k and I'll just use it as a deposit on a second-hand Porsche.

But no doubt the MK5 ED30 is the best Golf ever made.
Title: Re: Why are all GTi Edition 30s all so overpriced?
Post by: garrardrj on January 14, 2014, 04:16:48 pm
Thanks for all the great responses, guys. Thought provoking stuff. I can now appreciate more why the ED30s are holding their prices so well. Sure makes it hard for prospective buyers, though!

So yesterday I purchased an MK5 GTi 3dr DSG. Collecting it tomorrow. Exact spec that I was looking for: silver, full leather interior, DSG (working flawlessly), spot-on average mileage, FVWSH, totally standard with no mods. Dealership has provided an interim service, new tyres, full valet, and 12 months MOT. Cost me just under £7k - bang-on the Parkers price. I just had to drive 120 miles oop North to get it. Worth it, though.

I simply couldn't justify another £4k for the equivalent spec ED30 at the VW dealership down the road from me. They wanted over £11k. And IMO owning an ED30 without tastefully tuning it would be a crime.

The main reason for this, is that I will be using the car as my daily driver company vehicle. But if I decide to get into modding one day, then maybe an ED30 would be worthwhile then.

Although when I probably sell this Golf GTi in 3-5 years time, it'll probably by then be worth around £5k and I'll just use it as a deposit on a second-hand Porsche.

But no doubt the MK5 ED30 is the best Golf ever made.

Whats the mileage and year of the GTI you bought