MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Sunglasses Ron on January 08, 2014, 08:31:00 am
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http://www.seatcupra.net/wp/index.php/2014/01/08/new-2014-leon-cupra-and-cupra-280-full-details/
http://www.seatcupra.net/wp/index.php/2014/01/08/the-mk3-leon-cupra-welcome-to-the-new-generation/
Thoughts guys?
Not for me visually, but it seems the way most manufacturers are going with regards the subtle looks. Seems to give off a 'TDI with big rims' look to me.
Good to see a mech diff in place as standard and I am sure it will be well kitted out.
Not to sure what the point of the 265 model is though?
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Not a bad looking car. My guess is the 265 possibly meets a lower emissions band for car tax reasons???
Haing driven both the diesel and petrol MK3 Octavias and felt sick I will keep an eye on these.
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I like that. Interior looks smart, styling typical VAG cookie cutter but not offensive, power/diff/brakes good.
What's not to like for so little money?
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I think I actually prefer the new Ibiza over this... I priced one up on a finance deal the other day & I am very tempted - The combination of blue, panoramic sun roof, & led lights is very appealing!
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The question for me is,
is this still a 2.0TFSI engine like the Golf R which has been renamed a 2.0TSI!! or have they detuned the new S3 engine?
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It says TSI. No TFSI's from the factory with 280 horses.
http://www.seat.co.uk/content/uk/brand/en/news-and-events/new-leon-cupra.html
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Looks a lot like an Audi A3 I thought on first look!
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What's not to like for so little money?
Really I am thinking the opposite. Its £27k+, which can't be far off the new Golf R and S3.
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Mechanical diff.... if seat can do it then why doesnt the mk7 GTI have a mech. diff!! :stupid:
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Mechanical diff.... if seat can do it then why doesnt the mk7 GTI have a mech. diff!! :stupid:
I think its a electronic diff .... A psuedo Lsd
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SEAT have to be a little behind, but usually add something a bit better to the mix (more power / better brakes etc.)
This is no doubt a Mk7 GTI in drag.............. £27k+ though, that for real?... hmm.
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It says TSI. No TFSI's from the factory with 280 horses.
http://www.seat.co.uk/content/uk/brand/en/news-and-events/new-leon-cupra.html
The Golf R, scirocco R and Cupra R all say its a 2.0TSI, but they arent, they were 2.0TFSI with re-labled engine covers! Wouldnt take much to get 280 from the 2.0TFSi so its possible surely.
If it is a 2.0TSI it will be interesting to see if its the detuned S3 or tuned up GTI setup.
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Mechanical diff.... if seat can do it then why doesnt the mk7 GTI have a mech. diff!! :stupid:
I think its a electronic diff .... A psuedo Lsd
"every Leon Cupra comes as standard with a mechanical front axle differential lock"
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The new S3 is TFSI too.
What the f*ck is actually TSI... just the Mk6 GTI? (with chain jumping engine lunching sh*te).. what about the Mk7 is that a true TSI, yikes.
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The GTI/vRS etc are all genuine TSI.
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The new S3 is TFSI too.
What the f*ck is actually TSI... just the Mk6 GTI? (with chain jumping engine lunching sh*te).. what about the Mk7 is that a true TSI, yikes.
Audi retained the TFSI name - even on what we know as TSI engines :laugh:
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The GTI/vRS etc are all genuine TSI.
Which Gen?
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The new S3 is TFSI too.
What the f*ck is actually TSI... just the Mk6 GTI? (with chain jumping engine lunching sh*te).. what about the Mk7 is that a true TSI, yikes.
Audi retained the TFSI name - even on what we know as TSI engines :laugh:
Someone build a table/chart please! :laugh: :grin:
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The GTI/vRS etc are all genuine TSI.
Which Gen?
Mk6 GTI, Mk7 GTI ( i think), Facelift Mk2 vRS, Mk3 vRS.
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Mechanical diff.... if seat can do it then why doesnt the mk7 GTI have a mech. diff!! :stupid:
I think its a electronic diff .... A psuedo Lsd
"every Leon Cupra comes as standard with a mechanical front axle differential lock"
Now i am confused by the info seat are putting out. I have read both now
The New SEAT Leon Cupra 280 | SEAT.co.uk
www.seat.co.uk/content/uk/brand/en/news-and.../new-leon-cupra.html
Meet the newest member of the Leon family, the most intense Leon CUPRA yet. ... The new electronic front differential lock improves traction and handling.
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I've got a new FR DSG arriving next week which should go well once we've mapped it, exhaust and springs! :party:
To be honest I had one over the GTD as I just thought it was a much better looking car with great spec! Looking forward to the LED lightings!
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Interested to see this Mr Greenstuff. When are you darn sarf?
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Interested to see this Mr Greenstuff. When are you darn sarf?
No plans as yet but will be as soon as the show season starts again! :happy2:
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Diesel?
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Diesel?
Yarp. Had to as I've put 7.5k on the MK6 GTD in 3 and 1/2 months. And that was with a week in NY!
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Diesel?
Yarp. Had to as I've put 7.5k on the MK6 GTD in 3 and 1/2 months. And that was with a week in NY!
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Diesel?
Yarp. Had to as I've put 7.5k on the MK6 GTD in 3 and 1/2 months. And that was with a week in NY!
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I got plenty of petrol powered toys to play with! :evilgrin:
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I got plenty of petrol powered toys to play with! :evilgrin:
All with dodgy aftermarket parts? :wink:
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I was hoping it would look more extreme but I hear rumours of it breaking the current fwd ring record
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What's not to like for so little money?
Really I am thinking the opposite. Its £27k+, which can't be far off the new Golf R and S3.
Who pays anything close to list at a SEAT dealer? :grin:
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What's not to like for so little money?
Really I am thinking the opposite. Its £27k+, which can't be far off the new Golf R and S3.
Who pays anything close to list at a SEAT dealer? :grin:
this, my mate reckons he got a brand new astra vxr optioned to 30k for just over 20k on a factory order
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10 grand off list on a 30K car.... i just dont believe that.
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10 grand off list on a 30K car.... i just dont believe that.
Im having a hard time too, but he reckons hes ticked everybox.
Only thing I can think of, is that the finance dept have tricked him with the numbers/package hes signing up to and there will be some sort of balloon at the end
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Well i guess if he bought it for 20K on finance they might be making up the 10K + profit in APR adjustment.
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Big discounts are possible on BMWs, so anythings possible on a SEAT.
I think the car has far greater appeal than the Golf GTI. Its basically got all the performance pack stuff + more power from the get go. Although, id be tempted to hold out for the Cupra R which may potentially be 300+bhp and AWD.
The FR is more of a comparable car to the GTI really.
Also, dont forget you get about £2k worth of extras with LED lights and other bits. Not to mention the bigger brakes, wheels, better interior, diff. Can anyone confirm if this has the same diff as offered in the performance pack on the GTI?
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On the other hand, it's a fair hint at the ED40's probable spec.
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On the other hand, it's a fair hint at the ED40's probable spec.
I bet the Ed40 has 240hp
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On the other hand, it's a fair hint at the ED40's probable spec.
I bet the Ed40 has 240hp
If this happens i just wouldn't understand....
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On the other hand, it's a fair hint at the ED40's probable spec.
I bet the Ed40 has 240hp
If this happens i just wouldn't understand....
It would make some sense though, ed30 had 230bhp, ed35 had 235bhp so very possible the ed40 could come with 240Bhp, the anniversary models have never been about big numbers power wise :happy2:
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The engine is the latest EA888 version with an IHI turbo which has been reworked from the GTI version for cars like the Golf R, S3 and Leon Cupra. So I expect it will just be (as before) a detuned S3/7R engine - maybe with some minor mechanical difference if any at all.
Nice to see they have put DSG on the list now and things look promising for a AWD Cupra R with 300bhp now - which is odd as it would match the Golf R which normally they tend to be a step behind - time will tell.
I don't see the point of the 265 version - same engine, same co2 so why bother .. :confused:
Money's on its the same Mechanical diff which the GTI performance pack gives you - why would it be any different.
I'll wait another year and upgrade to the 7R most likely :wink:
Ed40 I'd put money on having 240bhp but maybe the Performance pack as standard ...
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On the other hand, it's a fair hint at the ED40's probable spec.
I bet the Ed40 has 240hp
If this happens i just wouldn't understand....
It would make some sense though, ed30 had 230bhp, ed35 had 235bhp so very possible the ed40 could come with 240Bhp, the anniversary models have never been about big numbers power wise :happy2:
Yeah... 240-250(perf. pack) would make sense given the 300bhp of the MK7R
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Has anyone tuned this latest S3 engine yet?
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I can't help but notice that the heralded DSG gives poorer fuel economy and worse emissions according to the SCN figures...
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Has anyone tuned this latest S3 engine yet?
360hp from a tuning box.
APR have cracked the new gen ECU's so are probably writing files as we speak
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Be a bit surprised if the 'ED40' didn't match the Leon Cupra on paper.
This Leon Cupra will be the market rival of the Astra VXR but there's not a lot to distinguish any of the VAG range with the increased platform sharing.
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Has anyone tuned this latest S3 engine yet?
APR have cracked the new gen ECU's so are probably writing files as we speak
Will these files be a viable option for anyone who wants to keep their warranty though Jas? Doesn't look good at the minute.
From what I read, tuning boxes seem to be the only way to go with most manufacturers now if you are wanting some more horses..
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Has anyone tuned this latest S3 engine yet?
APR have cracked the new gen ECU's so are probably writing files as we speak
Will these files be a viable option for anyone who wants to keep their warranty though Jas? Doesn't look good at the minute.
From what I read, tuning boxes seem to be the only way to go with most manufacturers now if you are wanting some more horses..
I'm unsure I haven't been keeping up with discussions on the Facebook group, but it does look that way. There seems to be some concerns about the safety of tuning boxes also if you drive hard so dunno.
We'll see how things pan out I suppose but tuning is becoming harder and harder. If tuning boxes start to take over popularity wise I'm sure the OEM will do something to detect those somehow also.
Suppose it really will come down to, gotta pay to play.
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i think some have already written files for the new S3 lump as different kettle of fish to the Mk7 GTI in terms of ECU encryption
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Good to hear that the ECU is now readable/cracked. For most though i would imagine that it's only good news if when the car is mapped it doesn't announce it to everyone in the dealer when it goes in for service/warranty work. Unless of course you have very deep pockets and it doesn't bother you.