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Title: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Phillyf21 on January 13, 2014, 02:15:51 pm
Hi all,

I know there are too many variables to consider, but do you think 30 mpg is possible from the following scenario:-

50 mile round trip consisting of 35 miles of moderate motorway traffic and 15 miles of free flowing A roads, all driven pretty sensibly?

I leave the non-sensible driving for weekends  :evilgrin:

Cheers

Phil
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: JoeDarKa on January 13, 2014, 02:21:39 pm
Depends on driving style. Try it and see?
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: edewer on January 13, 2014, 02:32:00 pm
I wouldve thought so. I do a mix of A roads and motorway to work (30 miles or so) and i can get anywhere from 37 on a good run, down to 22 because I was in a serious rush this morning!
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 13, 2014, 03:41:12 pm
Yes. I could get mid - high 30's on a run like that. Correct Tyre pressures, light right foot, coasting down to junctions using engine braking and a clear run without traffic lights all help to get great MPG  :happy2:
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: MC71 on January 13, 2014, 04:19:14 pm
^^^^ Sounds about right. I usually get 34 mpg ish at cruising speed (60mph ish) and no more than 23mpg around town in my Eddy.

I wouldve thought so. I do a mix of A roads and motorway to work (30 miles or so) and i can get anywhere from 37 on a good run, down to 22 because I was in a serious rush this morning!

Your not rushing anywhere NEAR enough, I expect mid teens if I'm in a PROPER hurry!  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: cageman86 on January 13, 2014, 04:39:20 pm
I do 25 miles to work and 25 back, about half is on the motorway the other half around town, if I drive at 70 on the motorway and the traffic in town isn't too bad I can easily get 30-35 MPG BUT and its a huge BUT it starts drinking if you get a bit of a heavy right foot and if your sitting around in traffic and in low gears its not too clever, at very worst on my journey to work I get about 24-27 mpg but I use the motorway, before when I worked in town I would struggle to get above 25-27 driving like a granny, my cars stage 1 R-tech with no other mods, and it is definitely better since its been mapped BUT and again this is a gigantic BUT use the power or drive it cold or do short journeys it will drink fuel! All good fun though!  :driver: :driver:
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Phillyf21 on January 13, 2014, 05:18:30 pm
I do 25 miles to work and 25 back, about half is on the motorway the other half around town, if I drive at 70 on the motorway and the traffic in town isn't too bad I can easily get 30-35 MPG BUT and its a huge BUT it starts drinking if you get a bit of a heavy right foot and if your sitting around in traffic and in low gears its not too clever, at very worst on my journey to work I get about 24-27 mpg but I use the motorway, before when I worked in town I would struggle to get above 25-27 driving like a granny, my cars stage 1 R-tech with no other mods, and it is definitely better since its been mapped BUT and again this is a gigantic BUT use the power or drive it cold or do short journeys it will drink fuel! All good fun though!  :driver: :driver:

Great answer,  thanks. I will also be purchasing the r-tech stage 1 with a carbonio intake, cant wait.
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Broomy on January 13, 2014, 06:50:59 pm
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20 miles to & from work, village & 60mph road mix only just got the car last Saturday.
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Deago on January 13, 2014, 06:59:48 pm
I quite often hit mid to high 30's even on the shorter journeys
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: xjay1337 on January 13, 2014, 07:16:49 pm
Trip and range remaining, no fuel light on

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Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: edewer on January 14, 2014, 07:38:26 am
That another of your dodgy photoshops again Jay? (Minus the penises drawn in paint?)
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: xjay1337 on January 14, 2014, 09:12:37 am
 :grin: :signLOL:

This time no photoshop was involved! I can tell from having seen a few shops in my time.
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: ROH ECHT on January 14, 2014, 09:47:58 am
I had a commute similar to the OP's, and I averaged 28.5 to 29 mpg when driving as a zombie...and 26.5 to 27 mpg when alive.  :grin:
I found, when my mileage began dropping over the last 7 years, that the MAF was going bad, the coils were going bad, or winter's crappy fuel had arrived.
So, one needs to keep their mkv firing well to achieve top running mpg.
All that will effect the mileage are going to be:
plugs
coils
failing maf or O2 sensor
fouled injectors
running rich - vcds group 33
gummed up intake ports
old oil
using 5w when 0w oil is better for winter mileage
fueling not running optimally...etc.
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: xjay1337 on January 14, 2014, 10:39:31 am
0w oil???
I would not recommend that...
Especially when the engine is at temperature the cold weight of the oil has no bearing on fuel economy.....
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: ROH ECHT on January 14, 2014, 10:54:16 am
I run 0w40 all of the time. It's for start up and idle until reaching operating temps where it saves on mileage.
OP, what is your cold tire pressure currently at? Do you check it early morning before the sun hits the tires or warms the air?

Quote from: Mobil 1 Oil
Q: Does 5W-20 Motor Oil Offer Fuel Economy Advantage over 5W-30?
A: You should probably continue to use the viscosity recommended by the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) which is a 30 grade. We have introduced two products: Mobil 1 0W-20 and 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy. We recommend you try Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy as a replacement for the 5W-30 you are currently using.

Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Phillyf21 on January 14, 2014, 11:16:34 am
I run 0w40 all of the time. It's for start up and idle until reaching operating temps where it saves on mileage.
OP, what is your cold tire pressure currently at? Do you check it early morning before the sun hits the tires or warms the air?

Currently dont own a mk5, i'm hunting for one as we speak. Just asking the question regading mpg really. Currently drive a s60 d5 which will still get 50 mpg with 4 flat tyres  :laugh:

Quote from: Mobil 1 Oil
Q: Does 5W-20 Motor Oil Offer Fuel Economy Advantage over 5W-30?
A: You should probably continue to use the viscosity recommended by the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) which is a 30 grade. We have introduced two products: Mobil 1 0W-20 and 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy. We recommend you try Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy as a replacement for the 5W-30 you are currently using.


Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: SkyJawa on January 14, 2014, 11:22:53 am
As per other posts, got 37.6 shown last night in the rush hour to Maidstone coming back for the whole trip it was 34.5 as managed to get a bit of a heavier foot coming back  :wink: 

Better than my 330d at the moment showing just 34!!!!

Or perhaps I bought a TDi by mistake lol  :grin:
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: ROH ECHT on January 14, 2014, 11:34:34 am
I run 0w40 all of the time. It's for start up and idle until reaching operating temps where it saves on mileage.
OP, what is your cold tire pressure currently at? Do you check it early morning before the sun hits the tires or warms the air?
Quote from: Mobil 1 Oil
Q: Does 5W-20 Motor Oil Offer Fuel Economy Advantage over 5W-30?
A: You should probably continue to use the viscosity recommended by the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) which is a 30 grade. We have introduced two products: Mobil 1 0W-20 and 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy. We recommend you try Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy as a replacement for the 5W-30 you are currently using.
Currently dont own a mk5, i'm hunting for one as we speak. Just asking the question regading mpg really. Currently drive a s60 d5 which will still get 50 mpg with 4 flat tyres  :laugh:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1205.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb434%2Frohecht%2Fdumb%2520forum%2520stuff%2FDaniel__s_Facepalm_by_xAikaNoKurayami.jpg&hash=3a9d11b183111bab3c33f112a29b8435d6761ea7) (http://s1205.photobucket.com/user/rohecht/media/dumb%20forum%20stuff/Daniel__s_Facepalm_by_xAikaNoKurayami.jpg.html)

Dope! Yes, you will likely get very near 30mpg ±
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: john87 on January 14, 2014, 12:12:26 pm
I think the mpg indicator in the mk5 should be read with a pinch of salt, as on my daily commute mines would often read between 33 and 36mpg, whereas my current mk6 R indicates between 29 and 32.

I get exactly the same number of miles to 20 quid as I did in the GTI..
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: xjay1337 on January 14, 2014, 12:25:30 pm
I run 0w40 all of the time. It's for start up and idle until reaching operating temps where it saves on mileage.
OP, what is your cold tire pressure currently at? Do you check it early morning before the sun hits the tires or warms the air?

Quote from: Mobil 1 Oil
Q: Does 5W-20 Motor Oil Offer Fuel Economy Advantage over 5W-30?
A: You should probably continue to use the viscosity recommended by the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) which is a 30 grade. We have introduced two products: Mobil 1 0W-20 and 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy. We recommend you try Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy as a replacement for the 5W-30 you are currently using.



Maybe in very very cold climates, in the UK it will provide less protection against 5w.
While I may change top end W depending on application (I ran 5w40 on my old PD 1.9 tdi) to offer extra protection, I noticed ZERO difference in MPG between that and the 5w30 that it WAS serviced with. I don't see oil as a way to improve fuel efficiency!! Especially when wind direction and tyre pressures (or even tyre brand) can effect far more...

And certainly at the expense of my engine I am not going to start running a 0 weight oil.. that's basically water. And I would recommend no-one else in our climate does that either. In Canada over winter I think yes it would have it's place absolutely but not here.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Rob. on January 14, 2014, 12:33:58 pm
I've managed 41mpg indicated in my Jetta TFSI on a 160 mile run (mostly motorway)...2 people plus luggage too.
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Twiggy on January 14, 2014, 12:46:01 pm
I got 38.6mpg on last year trip to Goodwood FOS, two people plus camping equipment, food and lots of Beer.
the trip was around 500 miles give or take.

Did it the year before in … dare i say it… a Focus ST and got 34mpg.

Just to put this in there, Golf is faster and more economical, also handles better but the exhaust pops of the ST are pretty sweet.

please note that on the drive down i was between 60-70mph and was driving carefully.

Fuel used was Vpower.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: nelmser on January 14, 2014, 06:26:00 pm
I think reaching 30 mpg is easy.  I can achieve it on a 30 minute trip (50% dual carrageway and 50% town), and I like to rag it around a bit!!

On the sort of journey you're describing, if careful I'm sure you could hit high 30s  :happy2:
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Deago on January 14, 2014, 06:27:58 pm
If you're careful enough you can get pretty good mpg out of the gti. I drove to Heathrow casually and got 41.5  :party:
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: xjay1337 on January 14, 2014, 06:53:34 pm
You'd be surprised what sort of MPG you can get if you drive careful :)
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Frodo-anni on January 14, 2014, 09:45:23 pm
22 mile journey to work, 14 miles on motorway - returns 36-38mpg each morning.

Heavier traffic in an evening, but can see 31-33mpg on way home. As mentioned above if i get stuck in traffic it does drop 24-26mpg.
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: D Squared on January 15, 2014, 12:14:14 pm
interesting post, i'm new to my GTi, and i do about 10miles each way to work, town and country roads, and get low 30's driving like an old granny....
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Phillyf21 on January 15, 2014, 02:47:50 pm
Ok fellas from all the previous posts I understand that 30 mpg is easy achievable. Just need the car now, can't decide on a 05/55-06 higher milage for £5-5.5k or bite the bullet and get 56-07/57 lower milage example for £7k. The missus is on my case as I was meant to be buying another diesel though, so I'll probably end up with a older higher milage example.

Thanks for all your help.

Phil
Title: Re: Is 30 mpg achievable?
Post by: Jonathon555 on January 16, 2014, 07:21:26 pm
30 mpg from ed30 yes

But you have to go steady