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Title: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: D8MOA on February 02, 2014, 12:51:18 am
i get terrible wheel tramp is there anyway to cure or make it better? if i actually got wheel spin it wouldn't be so bad but the wheel tramp is a joke!

i have goodyear eagle f1's and don't put my foot down until i'm in 2nd or 3rd gear and i dont just stick the pedal to the floor! i am stage 1 with just over 300bhp
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: fab5freddy on February 02, 2014, 07:47:06 am
Yep WALK or SALK will help along with updated engine mounts
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: vRSAlex on February 02, 2014, 11:07:08 am
Nothing fully gets rid of it.

Best things that help are the Superpro Alk and Vibratechnics engine mounts.
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: D8MOA on February 02, 2014, 01:22:09 pm
Nothing fully gets rid of it.

Best things that help are the Superpro Alk and Vibratechnics engine mounts.

I may as well set up an account with you alex haha
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: rich83 on February 02, 2014, 01:40:59 pm
Turning the esp off helps too.
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: GTI5 on February 02, 2014, 05:26:50 pm
You could also go for S3 control arms, these are still fitted with rubber bushes and there's a bit of weight saving too.

You can change the engine mounts but they do increase NVH.

How much tread have you got left on the Eagle F1's? I noticed they deteriorated a lot below 3mm depth which seems a sensible depth to replace them.
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: D8MOA on February 02, 2014, 07:51:21 pm
You could also go for S3 control arms, these are still fitted with rubber bushes and there's a bit of weight saving too.

You can change the engine mounts but they do increase NVH.

How much tread have you got left on the Eagle F1's? I noticed they deteriorated a lot below 3mm depth which seems a sensible depth to replace them.

brand new tyres with 7mm mate.. what is NVH?
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: MC71 on February 02, 2014, 07:56:54 pm
NVH or Noise, Vibration and Harshness.

I didn't notice any of these to be honest when i had the Vibra Technics Lower mount and dog born bush installed. Get them done and an anti lift kit, good place to start.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: D8MOA on February 17, 2014, 06:32:48 pm
NVH or Noise, Vibration and Harshness.

I didn't notice any of these to be honest when i had the Vibra Technics Lower mount and dog born bush installed. Get them done and an anti lift kit, good place to start.

 :happy2:


ahh great.... im sure that will compliment my clutch rattle nicely haha

what is the dog bone bush? i am looking at the VT lower mount bush kit at £130ish
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: D8MOA on February 17, 2014, 06:41:53 pm
dont worry just looked on awsome and found it.... i thought they was a solid bush anyway?
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: Softishman on February 17, 2014, 07:12:06 pm
I changed my engine mounts and it was better straight away, little more vibration on idle but not so much.
I am about to fit new poly bushes in the dogbone (lower gearbox mount) and getting WALK  and front wishbone poly bushes aswelk to minimize wheel hop...
I could not be worse at least..
I am currently on stage 2+ with my ED30...
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: MC71 on February 17, 2014, 07:52:46 pm
dont worry just looked on awsome and found it.... i thought they was a solid bush anyway?

Have a look in my Build thread (page 1) and the info on the Vibra-Technics Dog Bone bush is in there.  :happy2:

Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: markc on February 17, 2014, 08:04:00 pm
Mate, I never had a problem with wheel tramp at 300bhp after switching to Bridgestone RE050A fronts.  On the Conti's that were on when I bought the car it would tramp like b'stard.
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: flashp on February 17, 2014, 09:18:19 pm
i get terrible wheel tramp is there anyway to cure or make it better? if i actually got wheel spin it wouldn't be so bad but the wheel tramp is a joke!

i have goodyear eagle f1's and don't put my foot down until i'm in 2nd or 3rd gear and i dont just stick the pedal to the floor! i am stage 1 with just over 300bhp
Have a read here http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,79367.msg826157.html#msg826157 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,79367.msg826157.html#msg826157)
I'm dealing with the same issue now.
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: flashp on February 17, 2014, 09:22:36 pm
Mate, I never had a problem with wheel tramp at 300bhp after switching to Bridgestone RE050A fronts.  On the Conti's that were on when I bought the car it would tramp like b'stard.
Did you have your tracking adjusted when you changed? I know grip and loss of grip has a major part to play.
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: flashp on February 17, 2014, 09:28:38 pm
I read somewhere today that reducing rotational mass can help. Reduces a wheels tendency to bounce apparently. That means light weight wheels may help. There are other good reasons to have light weight wheels too, but that's for another thread probably. A wheel that's 4kg lighter may have a positive impact. OZ Alleggerita are my choice at present. I have s3 lower arms With WALK but the front bush is still OE. These arms were bought new so the front bush is new but probably not as effective as the WALK bushing at restraining the arm under heavy load. I'm feeling that I may get it changed for a poly bush of one sort or another shortly.

Interestingly I am also running Goodyear F1's
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: markc on February 17, 2014, 10:24:35 pm
Mate, I never had a problem with wheel tramp at 300bhp after switching to Bridgestone RE050A fronts.  On the Conti's that were on when I bought the car it would tramp like b'stard.
Did you have your tracking adjusted when you changed? I know grip and loss of grip has a major part to play.

No, just a rubber swap.  Like night and day  :happy2:
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: Karl_mac_ on February 17, 2014, 11:14:04 pm
Might not be relevant but in my ST changing to hardrace bushes and vibratechnmounts cure almost all wheel tramp issues. Did have quite a lot of vibration through the gear box though.
Title: Re: can i stop my wheel tramp? WALK kit? or anything else to uprate
Post by: flashp on February 18, 2014, 06:51:38 am
Might not be relevant but in my ST changing to hardrace bushes and vibratechnmounts cure almost all wheel tramp issues. Did have quite a lot of vibration through the gear box though.
Very relevant!  :happy2:
It confirms the approach to dealing with it works across brands and platforms so the methodology is sound at least.
Interesting point raised about tyres also. Goodyear F1's nay be an excellent all rounder but there are sharper handling tyres with more dry grip available that aren't necessarily track specific.