MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Craigh1983 on February 10, 2014, 04:39:23 pm
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Hey guys,
Posted a message on here a few days ago as my car had major electrical faults. Turns out 9 modules were basically fried when I jump started my car incorrectly.
The cost of labour and parts is well over £1000 and even then the mechanics can't guarantee that the problem would be sorted 100%.
Luckily I called the insurance and they are covering me under accidental damage and will give me the market value back for the car.
I was wondering though, before the garage come and collect the car, is it worth me taking my stereo out and selling it separate or would I really have to leave it in there as I have nothing to replace it with? I think the stereo is worth a couple of hundred quid? its the RCD 510
Thanks
Craigh
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It may be worth doing - depends if the Head unit was affected by the electrical damage?
Incidentally, how did you incorrectly jump start your car that caused all this damage? I ask as to avoid making the same mistake myself!!
Cheers
Rich
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Well head unit works absolutely fine. However I just don't know if taking the stereo out would affect the market value that they give me back at all.
It's hard to tell how all this happened to be fair. Basically I jump started the car by looking on the internet at which lead to connect first ie positive or negative. I did it correctly but then the next day it happened again and someone in the street helped me jump start this time. As I was in my car the guy had took it upon himself to connect the leads but I have no idea in which order he did it... so this may have caused a power surge as we didn't use a surge protector.
This is the only thing I can think of that would have done it. Car worked fine before this though so it must be the jump start. Now the car won't talk to Vagcom and kept coming up saying all the modules were dead basically. Guy at the garage said the parts can cost a fortune even second hand.
Spoke to Alex at AKS tuning and he also said that even if you do fit all the new modules, there is no telling if there will be other faults or if other faults will occur a few days down the line and I will probably just plough tons of money into it. He said it is not even a job he would take on and for someone who knows these cars inside out... it must be bad.
If I had known all this could have happened by just jump starting a car I would have never ever done it. Who knew hey...
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Could've been worse....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.viking-aquatics.co.uk%2Foops%2F1.jpg&hash=f16012751908d9d0671f2a1792a33504332a096e)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.viking-aquatics.co.uk%2Foops%2F3.jpg&hash=13c4ee5f71fff88cbe8a5f864e0cfbb023c55306)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.viking-aquatics.co.uk%2Foops%2F11.jpg&hash=8960d74d5135e0c2adbd626728760b8ad705ae80)
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^^^
f*cking hell! :surprised:
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JESUS!!
I should be thankful then really! That looks terrible
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Could've been worse....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.viking-aquatics.co.uk%2Foops%2F1.jpg&hash=f16012751908d9d0671f2a1792a33504332a096e)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.viking-aquatics.co.uk%2Foops%2F3.jpg&hash=13c4ee5f71fff88cbe8a5f864e0cfbb023c55306)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.viking-aquatics.co.uk%2Foops%2F11.jpg&hash=8960d74d5135e0c2adbd626728760b8ad705ae80)
Lol...thats awesome!!!
:laugh:
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At the risk of sounding really stupid, what's the correct procedure for jump starting with:
A) Another working car
B) A Battery booster device
Thanks
Rich
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HOLY HELL.
Fire batman!
I've jumped loads of cars and never had a problem you have to be a pretty dippy person to jump it incorrectly. As helpful as some people are I'd never let anyone do stuff like that other than myself or an AA man who I can sue the hell out of if he breaks my car.
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http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/breakdown_advice/using-jumpleads.html
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woah i wana know what happened in that picture, anyone got any more info
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The main thing that is important with jump starting is giving three minutes for the voltages to equalise before starting either engine.
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When Pug introduced the BSI with CAN multiplexing this was such a common issue (fried modules) when jumpstarting.
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woah i wana know what happened in that picture, anyone got any more info
I would presume that someone connected the jump cables to the wrong sides of the battery, and then when it started fizzing just ran away. :signLOL:
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think the alternator set alight
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Wow that's some damage! Never had any issues jump starting, can only imagine negative was connected to positive.......
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His old battery was completely flat and probably sulphated. Jumping it too soon can throw voltage spikes through all the ecu's.
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His old battery was completely flat and probably sulphated. Jumping it too soon can throw voltage spikes through all the ecu's.
I honestly did not know about leaving the batteries connected for 3 mins to let the voltage equalise! same with not disconnecting the batteries whilst running! :stupid:
Everyday is a school day!
Rich
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His old battery was completely flat and probably sulphated. Jumping it too soon can throw voltage spikes through all the ecu's.
Well the garage are coming take my car on Friday. The insurance company said I would be covered under accidental damage as it was my jump starting it that put the electrics out. I'm just not so sure this is going to be as simple as it sounds. I can't see me blowing the electrics being seen by the insurance company as as accidental damage.
What do you think?
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You have caused this damage by accident, therefore it is accidental damage.
There are quite a few things covered by insurers that people do not know about, such as wrong fuel then driving the car etc.
They sound like they have already accepted the claim so you shouldn't worry!
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Could've been worse....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.viking-aquatics.co.uk%2Foops%2F1.jpg&hash=f16012751908d9d0671f2a1792a33504332a096e)
Pretty poor looking leads...don't even appear to have protective covering.They just look like crossed bare copper cabling. :confused: :surprised:
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Pretty poor looking leads...don't even appear to have protective covering.They just look like crossed bare copper cabling. :confused: :surprised:
I think the plastic coating has been burnt/melted off....
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Pretty poor looking leads...don't even appear to have protective covering.They just look like crossed bare copper cabling. :confused: :surprised:
I think the plastic coating has been burnt/melted off....
Yeah,I thought of that,but the plastic is still on the grips of the battery clips...I'd have thought that there would have been some of the covering left up there if the rest had burnt away?
Maybe its that clear kind of covering... :confused: :grin:
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You could ask your insurance company what it would cost you to 'retain salvage'. You'll get the car after settlement and you could then break it for the unaffected parts and possible make some cash in the process.
Engine, g'box, interior, doors etc etc.
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My brother-in-law got paid out when he drove his diesel through floodwater and wrecked his engine. That was classed as accidental damage. I guess they call an "accident" anything that isn't a "deliberate".
Incidentally, thanks to Markyed30 for the link. :happy2:
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You could ask your insurance company what it would cost you to 'retain salvage'. You'll get the car after settlement and you could then break it for the unaffected parts and possible make some cash in the process.
Engine, g'box, interior, doors etc etc.
Yea I think I am going to do this as I could make a lot from the parts as they are in great condition.
Do I ask about retaining salvage at this early stage or after they have made me an offer?
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Wouldn't hurt to talk to them early on maybe. :happy2:
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Does anybody know where I can find someone to perform an exorcism on my car? My car is possessed!!
Bloke from the insurance company just come to collect the car... It has no electrics and my car has been unlocked on the drive (it won't lock) with the window stuck down for the past few days. I handed him the key and he pressed the unlock button and I heard a click! So electrics were working for a minute so he jumped in to get the window shut while we had power. Started the engine And then shut the door. The next thing we heard was another big click... The car had just decided to lock itself with the key inside and engine running lol arghhh...
Couldn't help but laugh! Eventually he had to smash the car window that was previously open to get in! LOL I could cry I really could haha in a way I hope they can't fix the fault lol
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I'd be looking to retain salvage and strip for parts. Body panels/interior/alloys could be worth it on their own.
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You must've been mean to it, herby did a similar thing.
Lol all I've done is treat it to nice things haha