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Title: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: DanMaytee on February 13, 2014, 07:29:23 pm
So I'm thinking of selling my TDI and buying a Petrol as I literally don't even cover 100 miles a week in it now.  I still want to keep a Jetta as I absolutely love the car but there isn't much choice.  The 2.0 TFSI are quite rare and there's only a couple on eBay at the moment (http://goo.gl/MddLmO (http://goo.gl/MddLmO) and http://goo.gl/YsPb6I (http://goo.gl/YsPb6I)).  The 1st one is perfect except the price and the 2nd one has slightly higher miles and hardly no description which has put me off.  

There are quite a few of the TSI engined Jettas on there though and I'm just wondering if anyone could tell me the common faults, pros and cons etc with them as all I've really heard are negative things.
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: omeydz on February 13, 2014, 07:56:18 pm
Mk7 tsi is belt driven!

Iv just gotta mk6 1.4 tsi and it was bit sluggish and after I gave it a full service it runs like a dream and goes so well for a 1.4 and puts a smile on my face! Keep it well maintained and serviced and it will serve you well. Steer away from the early tsi cars as they are more likely to have the timing chain related issues.

Overall great engine for its size and costs and you got good economy too :)
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: rich83 on February 13, 2014, 07:57:15 pm
Are the the 1.4TSI engines Danny? If so avoid them like ebola!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: omeydz on February 13, 2014, 07:59:24 pm
Are the the 1.4TSI engines Danny? If so avoid them like ebola!  :smiley:

whats your take on the 1.4 tsi rich?
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: rich83 on February 13, 2014, 08:04:49 pm
Are the the 1.4TSI engines Danny? If so avoid them like ebola!  :smiley:

whats your take on the 1.4 tsi rich?

If its the twin charged one then they tend to end up with major running problems. Hence they stopped making them
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: omeydz on February 13, 2014, 08:14:04 pm
Mines the turbo only tsi 122bhp. Been taking to Rex and can safely get 160 bhp with revo! Pretty nice, but for the mo im happy with the 122 and concentrating on other mods.
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: Kregiel on February 14, 2014, 12:54:27 am
my wife has 2008 1.4 tsi 170 bhp and apart from water pump failure it;s great. It now has 90k km and we bought it at 35k km

Hope that helps a little

Paul
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: Mattvwgti on February 14, 2014, 07:17:35 pm
Personally i wouldnt touch a tsi! I work for a vw dealer and were always doing 1.4tsi chains being done and the waterpumps/supercharger clutch. And were at least doing two or three 2.0tsi engines a month where the chain tensioners are failing and causing valves to hit pistons! They go well and sound good but id always be waiting for something to happen!
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: omeydz on February 14, 2014, 07:27:29 pm
Hmm.. out of interest when should the water pump be changed as these engines are chain drive which is meant to allegedly last life of the car....NOT!

Mine is a 60 plate 1.4 tsi 122 turbo only with 51k miles and no chain or waterpump changed thus far and running well.
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: markc on February 14, 2014, 07:28:06 pm
Personally i wouldnt touch a tsi! I work for a vw dealer and were always doing 1.4tsi chains being done and the waterpumps/supercharger clutch. And were at least doing two or three 2.0tsi engines a month where the chain tensioners are failing and causing valves to hit pistons! They go well and sound good but id always be waiting for something to happen!

Are you talking about the 2.0 tsi in the MK6 Golf GTI, being flakey ?   :scared:
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 14, 2014, 07:57:42 pm
Personally i wouldnt touch a tsi! I work for a vw dealer and were always doing 1.4tsi chains being done and the waterpumps/supercharger clutch. And were at least doing two or three 2.0tsi engines a month where the chain tensioners are failing and causing valves to hit pistons! They go well and sound good but id always be waiting for something to happen!

Are you talking about the 2.0 tsi in the MK6 Golf GTI, being flakey ?   :scared:

That's the one  :happy2:
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: Mattvwgti on February 14, 2014, 08:03:34 pm
Personally i wouldnt touch a tsi! I work for a vw dealer and were always doing 1.4tsi chains being done and the waterpumps/supercharger clutch. And were at least doing two or three 2.0tsi engines a month where the chain tensioners are failing and causing valves to hit pistons! They go well and sound good but id always be waiting for something to happen!

Are you talking about the 2.0 tsi in the MK6 Golf GTI, being flakey ?   :scared:

Hi Marckc, yea it is! its a cracking engine dont get mme wrong but this is a common problem! Aslong as youve got decent vw main dealer history you should get a decent goodwill gesture! Even better if youve got an extended warranty!
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: markc on February 14, 2014, 08:05:21 pm
Personally i wouldnt touch a tsi! I work for a vw dealer and were always doing 1.4tsi chains being done and the waterpumps/supercharger clutch. And were at least doing two or three 2.0tsi engines a month where the chain tensioners are failing and causing valves to hit pistons! They go well and sound good but id always be waiting for something to happen!

Are you talking about the 2.0 tsi in the MK6 Golf GTI, being flakey ?   :scared:

That's the one  :happy2:

Blimey, I'm shocked. Thought about buying a MK6 last year, didn't in the end as I couldn't find a 5 door with the right spec.
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 14, 2014, 08:07:48 pm
Personally i wouldnt touch a tsi! I work for a vw dealer and were always doing 1.4tsi chains being done and the waterpumps/supercharger clutch. And were at least doing two or three 2.0tsi engines a month where the chain tensioners are failing and causing valves to hit pistons! They go well and sound good but id always be waiting for something to happen!

Are you talking about the 2.0 tsi in the MK6 Golf GTI, being flakey ?   :scared:


That's the one  :happy2:

Blimey, I'm shocked. Thought about buying a MK6 last year, didn't in the end as I couldn't find a 5 door with the right spec.

I was going to look at one tomorrow. Googled the issue and it looks quite common these days, put me right off  :scared:
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: omeydz on February 14, 2014, 08:59:27 pm
Whats the waterpump interval change for the 1.4 tsi 122 mattyvwgti? Service book doesnt really say from what iv read :/
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: Mattvwgti on February 14, 2014, 10:04:02 pm
Hi omeydz, couldnt reply on pm's and there isn't a scheduled time for it. the symptoms are eml on and supercharger clutch not engaging dtcs, ALOT of coolant loss, a rattling/squeel from the aux belt and a lack of power from idle to 3k revs when the turbo kicks in. They do also suffer with the chain tensioner problem aswell
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: omeydz on February 14, 2014, 10:07:25 pm
Thanks for that mate. As I said not had my car long but after I serviced it, runs like a dream. Havent got any of those problems but will keep my eyes peeled for them! Cheers
Title: Re: Is the TSI engine really that bad?
Post by: DanMaytee on February 16, 2014, 10:43:58 am
Thanks for the advice guys. Definitely going to stay clear. I'm going to hang on to the TDI unless a nice TFSI Jetta pops up :)