MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: mrggg on February 19, 2014, 06:01:09 pm
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I am really confused weather to go for the DSG or not. I have heard a lot of horror stories about the DSG, which has sort of put me of them. I would like to know your opinions, shall I take the risk?
Anything else I should know about the Golf Gti edition 30? I.E any other problems these car have. For example the Audi A4 has the oil pick problem.
Thanks.
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Why don't you drive both and see what you prefer and make your decision then?
Any car has horror stories. If you let that dictate your buying you will end up with a bus pass instead!
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DSG all day for me, but tangs just my opinion, some people much prefer a proper stick, like said, you need to drive both.
DSG is faster too..
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Drive both and see which you prefer. Pro's and cons for either, as you'll learn.
Foibles for either have been talked about extensively on here, not meaning to be flippant but if you use the search feature you'll turn up loads of reading on your questions and plenty on others you didn't think off! :drinking:
A few of pointers but not an extensive list...
DSG service at correct intervals, cambelt change, cam follower for fuel pump, rattly timing chain (yes I know it has a cam belt), if modded are invoices for parts and labour present, check PCV system by remove dipstick while engine running, should run rough (basic check) These engines can (will) get coked up on the inlet valves. A borescope examination will quickly tell you where you are with that situation, probably 3 hours labour to fix this. Consider finding a local specialist who knows what they are doing and see if they'll check the car for you. If the seller isn't comfortable with that then walk away.
There'll be other bits, I'm sure people will mention these! Not to mention all the usual checks when buying s/hand.
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DSG 'box is brilliant and suits the GTI well. I was apprehensive about buying mine having only owned Manual cars since passing my test, but now I've got this I don't plan on going back!
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I dont mind Manual or DSG. However I would prefer DSG, but I am worried about the reliability and heard of big £2,000 bills for mechatronics etc.
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DSG is great but every time I drive a manual I regret not buying a manual GTI..
Then again, when in traffic, I am grateful I have a DSG. The box suits the car but the manual IS more involving no matter what way you look at it.
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Dsg all the way
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I tried both dsg and manual, ended up choosing a manual. But now I realise I have made a mistake and should of bought a dsg, my reasons are simple if you plan on keeping the car standard then the manual is the better choice for me,I have taken mine to stage 2 and will be going stage 2+ soon but I will need to replace the clutch because it will slip and the cost is just over £1000 for this..dsg box would of taken the increase in power with ease and only needing a dsg map..
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Some consider a manual box as a dsg one in permanent S mode. :smiley:
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DSG can feel less involved, there are times I miss rowing through the gears but then there are more than enough times I'm sat behind a tedious trail of slow drivers or in crawling traffic where DSG shines.
You can't go wrong with either, and there's a big enough mix available on the used market to swap again.
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BTCC cars have automatic boxes (sort of)... and i bet they are not "uninvolving' to drive.
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I do buy the bomb proof manual box, if dsg broke it will cost £££.
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I've always had manual, but DSG does look tempting, especially when teamed with a haldex setup :drool:
The sitting in traffic scenario would be great too, nothing worse than clutch work in an hour long traffic jam :sick:
However. . . . I leared to drive in a manual for a reason, its much more involving to phyically change the gear yourself, the feeling of the change (particularly in a Honda Civic Type-R), and the rewarding feeling when changing gear smoothly without the car lurching or jumping forward. I like to use my driving experience to judge when to change gear, its all part of the "driving experience" for me.
The amount of DSG stories on forums and Honest John's motoring column in the Telegraph are a little off-putting, particularly as these cars are getting older now :scared:
Watching Fifth Gear the other day where they did a DSG & Manual comparison (using Porsches), the dual clutch was better in a drag race, but on track it wasnt as much fun or quite as quick. Seems Tiff Needell and Jason Plato (Touring car driver) agree with the "less involving" comments. . .
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Watching Fifth Gear the other day where they did a DSG & Manual comparison (using Porsches), the dual clutch was better in a drag race, but on track it wasnt as much fun or quite as quick. Seems Tiff Needell and Jason Plato (Touring car driver) agree with the "less involving" comments. . .
Depends on how you drive I guess, if your planning on taking your car on the track and want to feel "involoved" get a manual, for everything else there is DSG :wink: