MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Craigh1983 on February 20, 2014, 05:31:12 pm
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Hi guys,
Posted a message here not so long ago about a major electrical fault that I caused more than likely by jump starting my car. Blew 9 ecu modules and tried to claim through the insurance. Well they took my car away and got one of their engineers to look at it and they have come back to me saying they won't cover me for accidental damage to mechanical or electrical. They also said that it could have been caused by wear and tear! WTF?? When does a car have such a major electrical fault through wear and tear.
Anyway they said I could get an independent garage to inspect and if they can prove it was caused by my jump start then they will look into it again. To be honest I really cba with all that and I haven't got the money to be paying someone to do that.
So I am going to sell the car in the state that its in unless anyone has any other suggestions. However I need some help in costing up what my car is worth in the condition that its currently in. I don't want to sell all the individual parts like the engine etc because I don't have the room to store car in the meantime and all its parts. Just to clarify. The car does drive and drives beautifully. There is absolutely nothing wrong mechanically. Car drives like it normally would. and headlights are working apart from the high beam (the one when you flash lights). ( I do have the read out from VAGCOM if needed). It basically said 9 of the modules are not responding with the computer.
SO...
Its a Tornado Red Golf GTI Mk5 2005.
Manual.
118000 miles on the clock.
18" Monza alloys.
Its pretty much as standard apart from it has an R-Tech stage 1 remap.
It has 12 months MOT (literally just had it MOT'd and passed with no advisories and has 5 months tax).
The car engine and mechanical parts are in fantastic condition and it drives beautifully and pulls like a train! However the only fault with the car is the electrical problem (indicators, wipers, windows, locking etc do not work).
It had a service in November 2013 and included, PCV (latest revision) cambelt and waterpump change and has only done maybe a couple of thousand miles since.
Brand new KO3 genuine turbo fitted a year ago and DV valve (latest revision).
Cam follower done a year ago.
new pads on the rear.
4 brand new tyres (Uniroyal Rainsport 3) fitted only a couple of weeks back. They have done less that 100 miles! (GUTTED).
Monza alloys are in ok condition (scuffs and could do with being reconditioned)
Brand new Exide battery again put in only a couple of weeks back.
Bodywork is on good condition apart from the usual stone chips.
All engine work done by Alex at AKS tuning.
If anyone could help me work out what I could sell my complete car for that would be great. I know these engines alone can sell for over £1000 and that's without ancillaries however I am not willing to sell individual parts. Whoever buys this would need to buy the whole thing.
Thanks so much in advance.
Still gutted :(
Craigh
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Pm sent
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question, if youre getting rid of it would you consider swapping the 18's for the GTI 17's?
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2.5k max.
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question, if youre getting rid of it would you consider swapping the 18's for the GTI 17's?
I would rather keep the 18's so that whoever buys the car can make maximum profit on the parts should they wish to sell them. Sorry.
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Why not just replace the modules what's defective and keep the car?
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As above, what 9 are damaged, you got a list? Virtually all available on our or German eBay
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Show them this link
"Many vehicle handbooks provide a procedure for jump-starting a vehicle with a discharged battery. However it is common to find batteries that are faulty. Jump-starting a vehicle fitted with a faulty battery can cause extensive electrical system damage."
http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/car_advice/car_fact_sheets/jump_starting
You just need a bit support mate and you'll either fix it or beat the insurance company!
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Why not just replace the modules what's defective and keep the car?
Well the labour cost. The parts cost and they have to be coded I was told? The problem is I don't have a great deal of money at the moment as just moved into my first house and I can't risk having the work done and then another problem crops up when they have been replaced. Not too sure how simple a job it is.
If someone could get it working they would have a beaut car on their hands. Even if someone bought it to sell as parts they would make a packet. Seats, wheels and brand new tyres. Bumpers, engine, new turbo etc... I just haven't got the know how, tools or time to break it all down and do it that way even though I would make a lot more money. If someone else wants to do that then fine but I have to sell this as a whole car unfortunately.
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Post your scan up and ask who's got those modules available for sale at a price to help a fellow member in difficulty!
You never know unless you ask!
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Surely an independent garage or mechanic wouldn't charge much to do the required review. I even bet you could get an RAC qualified person to look which would back up the info that doylebros mentioned.
You will lose far more I take it just selling the car, much more than half an hour or more for an Indy garage to look and come to conclusion on the situation - you have to fight this one mate!
I'm sure if any of the guys on the forum in your local area knows a decent Indy they could point you in the right direction :happy2:
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Show them this link
"Many vehicle handbooks provide a procedure for jump-starting a vehicle with a discharged battery. However it is common to find batteries that are faulty. Jump-starting a vehicle fitted with a faulty battery can cause extensive electrical system damage."
http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/car_advice/car_fact_sheets/jump_starting
You just need a bit support mate and you'll either fix it or beat the insurance company!
Thanks for that info mate. However even if I showed them this, Privilege (insurance company) are saying that they don't cover damage to the electrical system. On the policy it says We will not cover... any mechanical, electrical or computer failure, breakdown or breakage;
So surely me jump starting it and causing electrical damage would not be covered going on their policy wording?
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as above get the car scanned see what modules it needs..might be cheapef ghan you think
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Where you based?
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Show them this link
"Many vehicle handbooks provide a procedure for jump-starting a vehicle with a discharged battery. However it is common to find batteries that are faulty. Jump-starting a vehicle fitted with a faulty battery can cause extensive electrical system damage."
http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/car_advice/car_fact_sheets/jump_starting
You just need a bit support mate and you'll either fix it or beat the insurance company!
Thanks for that info mate. However even if I showed them this, Privilege (insurance company) are saying that they don't cover damage to the electrical system. On the policy it says We will not cover... any mechanical, electrical or computer failure, breakdown or breakage;
So surely me jump starting it and causing electrical damage would not be covered going on their policy wording?
Post your scan and as I said there's people on here who'll help - I've got a few spare parts I'll send you "free to help" if they'll match your car! :happy2:
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Saturday,08,February,2014,09:37:03:02513
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20130910
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W063666 License Plate: LC55NNK
Mileage: 191070km-118725mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W063666 Mileage: 191070km/118725miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 1010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 1010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 1010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 1010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 1010
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 HW: 1K0 907 115
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 00 0070
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2580322
Coding: 0403000318070060
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: E3CF0004225CE906691-80B6
2 Faults Found:
005634 - Power Supply Terminal 30
P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: -40.0°C
Temperature: -40.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 0.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.000 V
049508 - No Communications with HVAC Control Module (J301)
U0164 - 008 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 191072 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:27:41
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 11.0°C
Temperature: 6.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 950.0 mbar
Voltage: 12.065 V
Readiness: 0110 0101
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Revision: 00T12001
Coding: 0004738
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 40856F88138A121ED43-8015
2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
57511 - Unknown Error Code
Unknown - 015 - - MIL ON
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Address 08: Auto HVAC
Cannot be reached
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Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Cannot be reached
Unable to communicate with address 09. Are you sure the doors are unlocked?
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 N HW: 1K0 909 605 N
Component: 2F AIRBAG VW8 015 2100
Revision: 03015000 Serial number: 0038ED0M7Y8N
Coding: 0012870
Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
VCID: 37770454464455A6659-8062
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0C09616EJ
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0C07161ED
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME08475C1FJ
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME084D2645A
1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K6 920 972
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1212
Coding: 0003403
Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
VCID: EFE77C34FE945D66FD9-80BA
2 Faults Found:
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H37 0614
Revision: H37 Serial number: 250511F1000734
Coding: 350003
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 30653F48632A829E243-8065
12 Faults Found:
01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 191072 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:28:38
01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191073 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:40:18
00470 - Combination comfort Databus in Single Wire
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 146
Reset counter: 38
Mileage: 191007 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:01:18
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191073 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:26:24
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 106
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191072 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 01:58:25
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191073 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:42:56
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191073 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:29:20
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191072 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 07:54:23
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191072 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 07:45:57
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 8
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191072 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 01:58:14
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 9
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191072 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 01:58:14
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 77
Mileage: 191007 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:59
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K6 920 972
Component: IMMO VDD 1212
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: EFE77C34FE945D66FD9-80BA
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D04 1606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 336F3044523CB986591-8066
1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -
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Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 3C0-035-456.lbl
Part No: 1K6 035 456
Component: 08K Audioverst. 0003
Revision: 00002000 Serial number: 00000000034819
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: E9D3122CC070B356A3D-80BC
3 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached
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Address 56: Radio (J0503) Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 035 195 HW: 3C8 035 195
Component: Radio RCD510 040 0166
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: VWZ1Z3I5445758
Coding: 0101000001
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: E5CB1E1CEC689736875-80B0
4 Faults Found:
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 9
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191073 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:37:22
00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191073 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:05:53
01704 - Terminal 58 (Dimming)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 191073 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:37:31
00856 - Radio Antenna
007 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100111
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 0
Mileage: 178747 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 14:02:41
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left
Cannot be reached
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached
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I did speak to Alex at AKS tuning and he said he found a similar problem one time with a car and he basically said it was a write off because if the problems were fixed, there is no garauntee that another fault wont crop up after all that money has been spent on it. And other faults further down the line.
He said its not even a job he would take on... again I don't blame him as it must be a big job!
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I've got two modules - 09 -19
As said FOC.
If it was me I would be getting the fuses in the engine bay checked and then fitting module 9 after I've disconnected all the others and working from there!
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Where you based?
Im based in Leicester mate.
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So who done the scan:- you, a friend or garage?
Also, if I understand this correctly your car runs and drives but has numerous electrical faults?
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So who done the scan:- you, a friend or garage?
Also, if I understand this correctly your car runs and drives but has numerous electrical faults?
JohnA from this forum did the scan for me. I then took it to a VW specialist in Leicester (Nass Autos) and they also said I have the modules that are faulty. They said that it could be fixed however it would be time consuming but hes pretty sure he can fix it. I said to him are you 100% sure you can and he said no not 100% but hes pretty sure he can do it. So I couldn't take the risk of him doing all that work for it not to fix it 100% in the end. And with Alex telling me the same thing about it throwing up more problems even after the modules were replaced put me off even more.
Yes the car does run and drives like normal. That's the frustrating thing. Drives beautifully!
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Just seems odd to me the ECU didn't go with the rest of the modules!
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I don't know how they know 9 are u/s as the gateway can't talk to any of them, after checking gateway fuse to see if OK, I would change gateway, and just check every fuse as a matter of course.
Pity your not near me, sounds like a good challenge to solve, and as long as engine runs that's the main one sorted
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I don't know how they know 9 are u/s as the gateway can't talk to any of them, after checking gateway fuse to see if OK, I would change gateway, and just check every fuse as a matter of course.
Pity your not near me, sounds like a good challenge to solve, and as long as engine runs that's the main one sorted
To be honest I don't know if the garage did know for sure that the modules had fried as they didn't strip the car down or anything to get to them. They just basically did a diagnostics on it. I would hope they checked the fuses though. The guy didn't sound very confidant though when telling me all of this. Ended up costing me £76 for having a look at it for me.
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I don't know how they know 9 are u/s as the gateway can't talk to any of them, after checking gateway fuse to see if OK, I would change gateway, and just check every fuse as a matter of course.
Pity your not near me, sounds like a good challenge to solve, and as long as engine runs that's the main one sorted
It is a real big shame mate cos I could use all the help I could get right now. As you said it could be as simple as changing this gateway fuse? But I am no good with mechanics :(
Would it be worth taking it to another INDY for a second opinion?
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I don't know how they know 9 are u/s as the gateway can't talk to any of them, after checking gateway fuse to see if OK, I would change gateway, and just check every fuse as a matter of course.
Pity your not near me, sounds like a good challenge to solve, and as long as engine runs that's the main one sorted
+1 I'm not convinced that's it's no more than as SI-R32 says!
Look I'll send you the gateway see if anyone on the list is close to you like JoeDarka
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,120.0.html
Just let's know to which address - if you where closer I would come and fit it for you!
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I don't know how they know 9 are u/s as the gateway can't talk to any of them, after checking gateway fuse to see if OK, I would change gateway, and just check every fuse as a matter of course.
Pity your not near me, sounds like a good challenge to solve, and as long as engine runs that's the main one sorted
+1 I'm not convinced that's it's no more than as SI-R32 says!
Look I'll send you the gateway see if anyone on the list is close to you like JoeDarka
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,120.0.html
Just let's know to which address - if you where closer I would come and fit it for you!
JoeDarka is in Manchester I think and I;m in Leicester.
I really hope its this gateway thing! Where are you based?
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I'm in Tyne & Wear get your address to me tonight and I'll post it tomorrow!
As I said check the list and ask them who's happy doing electrical fault finding and coding!
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Well, that's a difficult decision, you've gotta hope they know what to do, but they need a good diagnostic tool, but also be able to fix the gateway first to be able to talk to every other module, it may just be the gateway is the only thing at fault, it so hard to know
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I'm in Tyne & Wear get your address to me tonight and I'll post it tomorrow!
As I said check the list and ask them who's happy doing electrical fault finding and coding!
Thank you so much for all your help mate! And thanks to everyone on here who is helping me with this. So nice to know there are people out there who will go out of their way to help! :)
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I can help you change a gateway Craigh. On a 55 car will it be behind the glovebox or on the RHS?
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I wish I could do more for you mate, any friends with electrical skills?
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I can help you change a gateway Craigh. On a 55 car will it be behind the glovebox or on the RHS?
REALLY?? OMG if you could mate that would be a massive help! However I haven't got the car back from the garage as they are in hinkley. They are going to deliver it back for me however I may even travel to hinkley at the weekend and fetch it myself. I know I can't indicate but the garage said If they deliver it back it will be whenever they get a spare chance basically!
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Got your PM will post it and send you the tracking details tomorrow!
Stay Strong that's what these forums are for helping members!
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One thing I should mention is that sometimes after the car has been left alone for a while... the electrics seem to work. Like when the garage came to collect my car, the car locked and unlocked, the wipers came on and the windows went up and down. But then after a minute or so they all stop and then don't work.
Another thing that happens is the radiator fan kicks in after 30 seconds and spins very very fast! it then slows down after a minute or two and then does the same again.
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By the way I changed the gateway I'm sending since I fitted RNS510 it's coded for automatic!
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Have they replaced the window they smashed?
Time is tight next week but I might have a couple of hours Monday morning and Thursday morning
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One thing I should mention is that sometimes after the car has been left alone for a while... the electrics seem to work. Like when the garage came to collect my car, the car locked and unlocked, the wipers came on and the windows went up and down. But then after a minute or so they all stop and then don't work.
Another thing that happens is the radiator fan kicks in after 30 seconds and spins very very fast! it then slows down after a minute or two and then does the same again.
I think it's just a bad connection either in the fuse box or body earth from what you've just said!
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Have they replaced the window they smashed?
Time is tight next week but I might have a couple of hours Monday morning and Thursday morning
I don't know to be honest. I assume not as they are not covering me now so I can't imagine they will. I will call them tomorrow to find out what is happening in regards to that!
Well what I will do is when I get the car back I will try get a morning off work and then let you know for definite and then we can arrange summat.
Cheers mate!
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I think it's just a bad connection either in the fuse box or body earth from what you've just said!
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Yea its weird how it stops and starts. Also when a door is shut, it says on the little display that the door is still open. Or the bonet is closed and it says its open.
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I can help you change a gateway Craigh. On a 55 car will it be behind the glovebox or on the RHS?
From when I visited Eddie in my mates 56 plate his gateway was on the drivers side above the accelerator sort of area, but I have also heard they can be behind clutch area - sure someone can confirm
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Bonnet switch and door switches indirectly report back to ccm behind glove box, this maybe faulty and need replacing as well say 50 quid or perhaps cheeper or free
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Bonnet switch and door switches indirectly report back to ccm behind glove box, this maybe faulty and need replacing as well say 50 quid or perhaps cheeper or free
The thing is this only started at the exact same time as all the other faults. Worked fine before.
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Bonnet switch and door switches indirectly report back to ccm behind glove box, this maybe faulty and need replacing as well say 50 quid or perhaps cheeper or free
I've got that module and will send that with the gateway to help him!
Would love to fix it if it was closer like you SI-R32
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Bonnet switch and door switches indirectly report back to ccm behind glove box, this maybe faulty and need replacing as well say 50 quid or perhaps cheeper or free
I've got that module and will send that with the gateway to help him!
Would love to fix it if it was closer like you SI-R32
You are a star! Honestly let me know if you want anything for them parts as I don't want you being out of pocket!
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If you don't need them just post them back I'll be happy with that! :happy2:
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No problem will defo do that!
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Bonnet switch and door switches indirectly report back to ccm behind glove box, this maybe faulty and need replacing as well say 50 quid or perhaps cheeper or free
I've got a 23 byte CECM for a 5 door car in the house as well. Not sure it's a job I'd want to take on. How hard is it? Ed upgraded mine.
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I have a reasonable idea how to do it after chatting with Ed a while ago John. I said to Craig about getting together and see if we can sort it between us.
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Nice to see this happening. Always good to see some forum sprit when it's needed.
As for the window they smashed, tell them you'll be happy for them to replace it before you have VW do it and send them the invoice.
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That would be great!
I spoke to the garage today and they are just waiting for the glasss to replace the little window they had to smash to get access to the car and they said it could be fixed this afternoon if it arrives and then I could pick the car up tomorrow morning. Failing that it might be Monday.
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Great stuff. :happy2:
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I have a reasonable idea how to do it after chatting with Ed a while ago John. I said to Craig about getting together and see if we can sort it between us.
Matto and John - Do you want any drawings for that year printed off and included with the parts being posted?
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This is what this forum is all about! Will be great if its all fixed after all the help from people!
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Sorry to hear you're in this position with the insurance company. Good to see help coming your way, best of luck to you!
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This is what this forum is all about! Will be great if its all fixed after all the help from people!
It would be amazing mate! I'm trying not to get my hopes up but from what everyone is saying on here, it might not be as big a job as it first sounded. Just keeping my fingers crossed!
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Good effort guys :drinking:
I'd also be happy to help if I was nearer, but will be watching this with interest (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley-basic%2Fpopcorn.gif&hash=8d60cf14bedafb370c715c00875fb85e88eb8f0e)
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I have a reasonable idea how to do it after chatting with Ed a while ago John. I said to Craig about getting together and see if we can sort it between us.
Matto and John - Do you want any drawings for that year printed off and included with the parts being posted?
What drawings do you have mate?
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Part numbers of items packaged up and posted on tracking number KF203907599GB
First Class Royal Mail
1K0 907 530 K gateway
3C0 937 049 AE - CECM module
24 pages of basic equipment circuit drawings from 2003 showing fuses etc.
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Thank you so much!
Do you know roughly what day it will arrive?
Cheers
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Happy to help - Monday but follow it on the tracking at Royal Mail.
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That's great.
Just one more thing I should mention as it could help. Obviously after I did the jump start, I went too euro car parts and bought and brand new battery. Got it fitted that same day by a garage and it was actually the day after that the fault happened. So I know I said it could be the jump start that caused fault but could the new battery cause this kind of thing?
John A called euro car parts when he was with my car and they confirmed that it was defo the right battery for it.
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The hard part is to get the car to start and it's doing that after that it's just time and testing! :happy2:
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LOL The glass that was smashed was being replaced today by the garage. Just had a call to say the glass has turned up and they have ordered the wrong one! They said the new one could take 10 days. They said they would fit the one they have and then when the tinted one arrives they will come to my house to re fit the correct one.
Then had another phone call saying that they have managed to source the correct glass and are fitting it tomorrow now and I have to pick my car up on Monday! LOL ARGHHHHHHH Please someone shoot me now!! :scared: :fighting:
If anyone needs me... I will be over in the corner smashing my head against the brick wall... :rolleye:
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we all feel like that sometimes, i remember when i seized my 2nd engine up on a 306 a year after blowing it up the 1st one, long story......but don't let it get you down mate, everything's fixable at the end of the day and you can always turn to drink to take your sorrows away :laugh:
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we all feel like that sometimes, i remember when i seized my 2nd engine up on a 306 a year after blowing it up the 1st one, long story......but don't let it get you down mate, everything's fixable at the end of the day and you can always turn to drink to take your sorrows away :laugh:
Glad its not just me then... Already got a bottle in for this evening. Im sure that will cure my headache :laugh:
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seems to me like nothing to do with the jump start since it happened the day after that and a new battery.............
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seems to me like nothing to do with the jump start since it happened the day after that and a new battery.............
Well i'm thinking now that when I had my RCD510 fitted, I had a new can gateway fitted to to stop battery drain. So if this has failed like a few have suggested, I wonder if that is the reason my car battery drained over night twice?
Will be interesting to find out!
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The car I had here had no comms to any ecu. The canbus had a chip inside that had blown up. Tried a new canbus, this then showed all the ecu's that wouldn't communicate to it. One by one I stripped them out and they all had blown chips and legs on them. I even burnt my hand on the fuel pump control module. It had blown internally and was constantly running to the point some of the plastic has melted.
As Craighs canbus module communicates with VCDS, I would say that it is ok. CECM is possibly fried and not powering up some of the other modules, or its fried and so are the other modules.
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RIGHT...Bit of an update!!
Just been to collect my car from the garage... started it up and the battery was nearly flat as it wouldn't crank over enough to start so they had to jump start it...
Once the car had power I waited for all the faults to happen... (normally they start after a minute or two) After a few minutes everything seemed to be working! After an hours drive home EVERYTHING was still working! Inside fans, wipers, indicators, door locks, all working and the engine fan wasn't spinning up mega fast too like it did before. Turned the engine off when I got home and turned it back on and everything was still working! Even the display were showing the doors were locked correctly.
Surely this means that my modules are not fried like I first thought??? What is going on! lol I think there still must be some kind of fault though for the battery to have gone flat after just a week as its a brand new Exide battery and quite a good one too? Something is obviously draining it quickly.
Does this narrow down what the fault could be though?
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Have you scanned it again for faults? That'd be the first thing.
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Not yet that is happening this weekend.
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This has got to be one of the best threads on this forum.
In fact (excuse my warped sense of humour here), it's got everything...
The disaster
The kindness of strangers restoring faith in humankind
The happy ever after (I hope I'm not being premature)
Any chance of a love story? Then we'd have the full house...
Seriously - the very best of luck.
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This has got to be one of the best threads on this forum.
In fact (excuse my warped sense of humour here), it's got everything...
The disaster
The kindness of strangers restoring faith in humankind
The happy ever after (I hope I'm not being premature)
Any chance of a love story? Then we'd have the full house...
Seriously - the very best of luck.
:signLOL: coming to your screens next autumn
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This has got to be one of the best threads on this forum.
In fact (excuse my warped sense of humour here), it's got everything...
The disaster
The kindness of strangers restoring faith in humankind
The happy ever after (I hope I'm not being premature)
Any chance of a love story? Then we'd have the full house...
Seriously - the very best of luck.
Haha, that was good.
I think a love story is a bit too much to hope for, I'd settle for opening the glove box and finding the bag of Cadbury's Eclairs that he'd forgotten about.
Anyway, best of luck the OP in any event... if you are that lucky, I think your first trip out should be to the newsagents for a scratch card. :happy2:
Rich.
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This has got to be one of the best threads on this forum.
In fact (excuse my warped sense of humour here), it's got everything...
The disaster
The kindness of strangers restoring faith in humankind
The happy ever after (I hope I'm not being premature)
Any chance of a love story? Then we'd have the full house...
Seriously - the very best of luck.
LOL well you never know! ;) Not had any good offers yet lol
And cheers mate :)
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This has got to be one of the best threads on this forum.
In fact (excuse my warped sense of humour here), it's got everything...
The disaster
The kindness of strangers restoring faith in humankind
The happy ever after (I hope I'm not being premature)
Any chance of a love story? Then we'd have the full house...
Seriously - the very best of luck.
Haha, that was good.
I think a love story is a bit too much to hope for, I'd settle for opening the glove box and finding the bag of Cadbury's Eclairs that he'd forgotten about.
Anyway, best of luck the OP in any event... if you are that lucky, I think your first trip out should be to the newsagents for a scratch card. :happy2:
Rich.
LOL With the way my luck has been lately, I would buy a scratch card and end up getting -£500 and owing the shop money haha (Get the violins out) ;)
Nah I have had a go on the health lottery so if I win I will ditch the car and get a mk7 :)
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Ok, A bit of an Update
I've looked at the car, what a mess the garage made of the car not fitting the trims properly. Also leaving the Airbag switch and Inclination sensor all unplugged.
I re-fitted all these and removed the nokia phone kit.
I then checked the alternator output, scanned the car with vcds no new faults from the scan done by Matto. My lead accessed the modules without any trouble.
After locking the car I then checked all the circuits in the Engine and interior fuse boxes, all circuits shut down apart from one fuse in the Interior fusebox. This was for the Diagnostic port
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So., nothing much wrong other than the crap job done by someone else?
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Ok, A bit of an Update
I've looked at the car, what a mess the garage made of the car not fitting the trims properly. Also leaving the Airbag switch and Inclination sensor all unplugged.
I re-fitted all these and removed the nokia phone kit.
I then checked the alternator output, scanned the car with vcds no new faults from the scan done by Matto. My lead accessed the modules without any trouble.
After locking the car I then checked all the circuits in the Engine and interior fuse boxes, all circuits shut down apart from one fuse in the Interior fusebox. This was for the Diagnostic port
Hi Ed,
Just wanted to say thank you so much for giving up your time and looking at my car yesterday! Really appreciate it.
Thanks also to everyone who chipped in to help on the thread and to Matto and John A who did some diagnostics for me. Also to John (Doylebros) who spend lots of time emailing, spending me the gateway and CECM and helping me out over the phone. It's really nice to know that people will go out of their way to help someone else out!
So the only thing I can try now is a battery test. The only thing I can think of is that the battery was never fully charged when Eurocarparts sold it to me. I then had it fitted and it sat on the drive for a couple of days. It then sat on the forecourt of the garage for over a week. It was then dead when I picked it up so they jump started it and I drove it home. It was only a 45 min drive so might not have been enough to charge it. It then died again over night twice. So now I have had it connected to the battery conditioner for a few days and the 7 hour total drive I did yesterday to see Ed, it may have a good charge. So the plan is to leave it now for a few days without the charger on it and see if it dies again. If it does then I give up lol
Will keep you all posted!
Thanks again everone :)
Craigh
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Glad Ed was able to help you out further. Bet your scan looks even better now :happy2: Hopefully a good charge of the battery has sorted these issues out.
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Hi Graig,
Any chance of a summery of what stage your car is at? Im trying to figure out if the issues you reported on your opening post have now been fixed and new issues have beem diagnosed? Sorry for being thick!!
Thanks
Rich
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Hi Graig,
Any chance of a summery of what stage your car is at? Im trying to figure out if the issues you reported on your opening post have now been fixed and new issues have beem diagnosed? Sorry for being thick!!
Thanks
Rich
Well since picking my car up from the garage a week ago, all faults seem to have dissapeared on their own. The car just started working again and I have no idea how. Took the car to Matto on Sunday morning and he did a scan for me which showed some fault codes but they were due to the airbags being disconnected and ther radio not being plugged in. The lovely guys at the garage took my car to bits and then decided they couldn't be bothered to put it back together properly. They even broke my hazard switch which I am now going to have to try and replace. I am defo going to make a complaint about the state they left the car in.
I took the car to Ed in Great Yarmouth who checked all the fueses to see if anything was draining the battery and there was nothing at all that was showing apart from the diagnostics port. But this was showing an acceptable level of drain.
But in regards to the original faults where I thought that all the modules were fried, they are all working perfectly and responding to VCDS. I have no idea how this happened. I can only think that when I jump started the car or the battery went flat, the car probably shut down all the electrics as a protection thing. I really don't know.
But the car is driving perfectly and if I get this battery drain sorted then the car is back to normal :)
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glad to see your getting it sorted--if you need a hazard switch i have one you can have foc
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glad to see your getting it sorted--if you need a hazard switch i have one you can have foc
+1 here if you need...