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All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: DaveyCupra on October 02, 2009, 11:03:17 am

Title: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: DaveyCupra on October 02, 2009, 11:03:17 am
Hey guys, I ordered a set of Eibach Sportlines for my car the other day from POTN. They aren't in stock till next week unforturnatley so it will be next weekend at earliest before I receive them  :sad1:

But is there a how to guide anywhere for this as I want to try fitting them myself. I have two trolley jacks, axle stands a all the sockets/spanners anyone could want.

The guide for the GTI will be the same as the Cupra as all the suspension components are the same.

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: bacillus on October 02, 2009, 03:05:09 pm
Hope this helps.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3012010
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: monte on October 02, 2009, 03:46:07 pm
shine a light :scared: thats looks quite tricky!
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: vRStu on October 02, 2009, 03:48:20 pm
Done this a few times myself.  Rears are reasonably easy, fronts a little more complicated.

You really want to get that spreader tool as well.  :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: DaveyCupra on October 02, 2009, 05:47:36 pm
Thanks for the help guys  :congrats: Stu, do you need to remove the from CV joints from the hub?

I will get a spreader tool. I have spring compressors already

Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: gazbutS3 on October 02, 2009, 06:46:14 pm
no need to remove the driveshafts(cv joints) from the hubs
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: vRStu on October 02, 2009, 10:58:18 pm
I find the easiest way is to remove the calipers, remove the lower arm, remove the track rod end from the hub, undo the hubnut and withdraw the drive shaft from the hub, leaving the driveshaft in the gearbox.

Remove the entire strut and swap the parts over away from the car.
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: DaveyCupra on October 03, 2009, 09:26:56 am
Sorry guys thats what I meant, do you need to withdraw the drive shaft from the hub?

I will do like you say Stu, if that is the easiest way. Thanks for the help guys.
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: monte on October 03, 2009, 01:06:53 pm
I find the easiest way is to remove the calipers, remove the lower arm, remove the track rod end from the hub, undo the hubnut and withdraw the drive shaft from the hub, leaving the driveshaft in the gearbox.

Remove the entire strut and swap the parts over away from the car.

you anywhere near Lincoln? you want a job? :laugh:
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: vRStu on October 03, 2009, 01:27:25 pm
I find the easiest way is to remove the calipers, remove the lower arm, remove the track rod end from the hub, undo the hubnut and withdraw the drive shaft from the hub, leaving the driveshaft in the gearbox.

Remove the entire strut and swap the parts over away from the car.

you anywhere near Lincoln? you want a job? :laugh:

Sadly I'm not anywhere near Lincoln lol.
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: monte on October 03, 2009, 08:22:51 pm


Sadly I'm not anywhere near Lincoln lol.


no worries mate  :happy2: would you happen to be the same stu i spoke to on the R32 site, many months ago, regarding a bluetooth skoda phone unit for the RNS510?
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: vRStu on October 03, 2009, 08:39:18 pm
Possible, I don't normally frequent the R32 site though
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on October 03, 2009, 11:19:14 pm
Done this a few times myself.  Rears are reasonably easy, fronts a little more complicated.

You really want to get that spreader tool as well.  :happy2:
What's the spreader tool, and is it used for?
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: vRStu on October 03, 2009, 11:23:32 pm
I just googled for a picture and found one from here -

http://www.seat-ibiza-mk4.co.uk/ibiza_front_shock_absorber_change.htm

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Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on October 03, 2009, 11:30:04 pm
That would explain why the guys were using a hammer to take off the front shocks connected to the bit prized open by the spreader tool.

I was thinking right then - there must be a better way of doing this... whilst cringing... I did manage to get them use a piece of wood to soften the blows to my car...
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: SteveTDCi on October 13, 2009, 07:13:10 pm
I did my Cupra at the weekend and would never attempt it again, not when Jabba quoted £130 to do it .. but it was too late and i was impatient :) the spreader is a must, I had to make do with a modified allen key as I couldn't pick one up locally and if you can remove the caliper as stu pointed out its bloody hard work and i have the bruises to prove it.
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: vRStu on October 13, 2009, 10:21:41 pm
Ahh but think of the satisfaction of knowing you did it yourself  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: DaveyCupra on October 14, 2009, 08:52:57 am
Ahh but think of the satisfaction of knowing you did it yourself  :evilgrin:

x2

I am still waiting on my springs to get here, have been told today or tomorrow  :mad: so install tonight or tomorrow night after work  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: CarrG on October 15, 2009, 12:50:14 pm
Ahh but think of the satisfaction of knowing you did it yourself  :evilgrin:

x2

I am still waiting on my springs to get here, have been told today or tomorrow  :mad: so install tonight or tomorrow night after work  :jumpmove:


Good luck!
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: DaveyCupra on October 15, 2009, 05:34:26 pm
The springs are here at last  :congrats:, so fitting them now on Saturday, I have a works night out tomorrow night and couldn't be bothered starting it tonight  :smiley:
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: SteveTDCi on October 15, 2009, 09:28:32 pm
Ahh but think of the satisfaction of knowing you did it yourself  :evilgrin:

True and the fact that I saved enough money to get my spoiler painted :) its not difficult just hard work on a driveway, just make sure you have a breaker bar and hex 27mm socket ( halfords have 3 for 2 on the proffessional range) and a torque wrench capable of 200nm, the M14 spline drive is needed and the strut spreader makes it easier although I improvised with an old allen key and and a file !
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on October 16, 2009, 07:26:23 am
A bit of WD40, spray grease, and a hammer always come in handy?  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: JPC on October 16, 2009, 08:40:05 am
Just make sure the grease and WD get nowhere near your brakes
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: DaveyCupra on October 16, 2009, 05:00:20 pm
Ahh but think of the satisfaction of knowing you did it yourself  :evilgrin:

True and the fact that I saved enough money to get my spoiler painted :) its not difficult just hard work on a driveway, just make sure you have a breaker bar and hex 27mm socket ( halfords have 3 for 2 on the proffessional range) and a torque wrench capable of 200nm, the M14 spline drive is needed and the strut spreader makes it easier although I improvised with an old allen key and and a file !


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A bit of WD40, spray grease, and a hammer always come in handy?  :popcornsoda:

Cheers for the help guys, yeah I have all the tools already and have a full can of WD40 so it should hopefully go ok  :scared:

Incidentally, I got a quote of £70 to have them fitted by a local garage (good reputable place) and £17 for the tracking and lining. But there is a local Seatcupra.net meet on Sunday near me, so was looking to have it lowered by then and the garage can only do the car a day next week, so ho hum  :signLOL:
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: billyboy on October 17, 2009, 08:11:27 pm
I did mine on the drive, give yourself enough time so you dont get stumped,
i used an alan key to spread  or use a chisel downwards not inwards, if its springs only youll get new bump stops
so no cutting old ones, also when you pull the strut down out of the tunnel, just check on the top.. as mine had an arrow
on the top, that needs to go back pointing the same way ? dont know why. but check.
the rears, i took some pressure off the springs in situ my clamps where small enough, then when you drop the beam/arm down they pop out better.
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have fun,
billy
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: vRStu on October 17, 2009, 09:38:38 pm
Looking at your picture I think it's easy to see why I recommend removing the brake caliper and then extracting the entire strut from the car before splitting it.  You've potentially got some weight on the track rod there not to mention living dangerously with the ABS wheel speed sensor.

You are right about the arrows on the top mounts, they are supposed to point in the direction of travel.

I'll also re-iterate, buy the proper spreader it'll cost you around £10 from a VW dealer.
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on October 17, 2009, 10:40:03 pm
Where are these arrows...I'd like to check these out... thanks,
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: billyboy on October 17, 2009, 10:46:28 pm
Looking at your picture I think it's easy to see why I recommend removing the brake caliper and then extracting the entire strut from the car before splitting it.  You've potentially got some weight on the track rod there not to mention living dangerously with the ABS wheel speed sensor.

You are right about the arrows on the top mounts, they are supposed to point in the direction of travel.

I'll also re-iterate, buy the proper spreader it'll cost you around £10 from a VW dealer.
I know now about the caliper, if id be doing it again thats the way.
id just rested the whole hub assy on a block under disc so its not streching anything there.
bill
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: billyboy on October 17, 2009, 10:48:06 pm
Where are these arrows...I'd like to check these out... thanks,
when the strut is down and out, look on the top where the bolts go, should be on top
bill
Title: Re: How to Fit Eibach Springs?
Post by: bondy on November 09, 2010, 03:50:27 pm
The best thing to to is place the hub assembly back onto the lower arm by placing one of the 13mm bolts through the bolt hole in the lower arm. Hope that makes sense. This will keep the pressure off any brake lines and abs sensor wires.