MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Blake-R on October 03, 2009, 03:09:59 pm
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Well with under a week under my belt with the Gti i am returning it to the dealers to be fully checked over. Over the last few days i have not been happy with a couple of things. i have already mentioned a few on here already and i would rather get it sorted out sooner rather than leave it. First off is the sound of the car on turnover, sounds quite ropey, and i wouldn't expect a Gti to sound like this. The fan is ridiculously noisy, i will try posting up a video of this. The brakes have started to squeak quite badly and also a big rattle from the back seats.
A little annoying as i absolutely love the car and don't want to take it back but i know these things are going to bug me if i don't. Fingers crossed it's nothing major though :sad1:.
Can you tell me if yours is the same?
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Mines the same, perhaps maybe turn off the aircon to see if the fan stops?
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Well i guess if a few peoples are the same thats not so bad. But that still seems extremely loud compared to any other car i have heard. I have the AC switched off all the time really.
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mine sounds like that, has done from brand new.
have you checked the seats are clicked back properly and theres nothing in the spare wheel tool kit thats rattling?
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when i start mine i think...has someone fitted a diesel to this and not told me? then it warms up and that noise disappears...i was kinda hoping its normal lol
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when i start mine i think...has someone fitted a diesel to this and not told me? then it warms up and that noise disappears...i was kinda hoping its normal lol
Thats exactly what happens with mine. Maybe i just didn't expect a Gti to sound that way. haha a hope for the best kind of thing lol
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i was expecting a growl or a hum not a tractor!
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I know they are all supposed to sound a bit clattery but have to say mine us nowhere near as loud as that mate - in fact I had my head under the hood earlier with the engine running and it was hardly making any noise at all - mines got 10k miles on it so wonder if it's something that worsens with mileage?
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I know they are all supposed to sound a bit clattery but have to say mine us nowhere near as loud as that mate - in fact I had my head under the hood earlier with the engine running and it was hardly making any noise at all - mines got 10k miles on it so wonder if it's something that worsens with mileage?
Hmmm now this is the thing that has got me concerned, i don't see how the same cars can vary so differently. Mine has got 20k on it.
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mine has 24k, i will get a vid in a min and we can compare, but mines jus been Trafford centre so could still b warm (not alone i went with it)
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mine has 24k, i will get a vid in a min and we can compare, but mines jus been Trafford centre so could still b warm (not alone i went with it)
Haha class
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Well i guess if a few peoples are the same thats not so bad. But that still seems extremely loud compared to any other car i have heard. I have the AC switched off all the time really.
Hi mate :happy2:, as i said on DW its hard to tell, but all i know is when mine starts people look at me and probably laugh thinking i badged up a diesel as a GTi :laugh: :laugh:
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i had the same with mine a few months back and it ticks and rattles loudly when cold, eventually got it sorted under warrenty and was the cam belt. mine is now silent and all i can hear when turning the ignition is the exhaust, just how it should be. good luck getting it sorted :happy2:
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Hi mate :happy2:, as i said on DW its hard to tell, but all i know is when mine starts people look at me and probably laugh thinking i badged up a diesel as a GTi :laugh: :laugh:
Did you not?? :wink:. I actually joked with my GF earlier about how loud the fan is, and said people walking past must avoid it cause they think it's going to blow or something lol
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i had the same with mine a few months back and it ticks and rattles loudly when cold, eventually got it sorted under warrenty and was the cam belt. mine is now silent and all i can hear when turning the ignition is the exhaust, just how it should be. good luck getting it sorted :happy2:
Now thats what i like to hear silent as a whistle, although it would be nice to have a little growl on turnover. I think this could be the problem them. Should a cam belt go after 20k though? or does it not really matter time wise to much?
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i had the same with mine a few months back and it ticks and rattles loudly when cold, eventually got it sorted under warrenty and was the cam belt. mine is now silent and all i can hear when turning the ignition is the exhaust, just how it should be. good luck getting it sorted :happy2:
Now thats what i like to hear silent as a whistle, although it would be nice to have a little growl on turnover. I think this could be the problem them. Should a cam belt go after 20k though? or does it not really matter time wise to much?
well, mines been the same since new, so i dont reckon its going to change, in fact im told the reason it does sound a bit 'Diesel' is it uses pretty similar methods to deliver the fuel
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My Cupra is virtually silent on tickover (except for the exhaust noise) but the idle is not very smooth at all.
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All 2.0 tfsi's are to some extent clattery, After fresh oil change mine is quieter and also when she warms up ,she gets quiter, off idle shes smooth as.
I really would worry about it, yours doesnt sound anyworse then loads ive heard from forum members cars as various meets etc.
Get the fan looked at though if its not the Aircon unit running :happy2:
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i had the same with mine a few months back and it ticks and rattles loudly when cold, eventually got it sorted under warrenty and was the cam belt. mine is now silent and all i can hear when turning the ignition is the exhaust, just how it should be. good luck getting it sorted :happy2:
Now thats what i like to hear silent as a whistle, although it would be nice to have a little growl on turnover. I think this could be the problem them. Should a cam belt go after 20k though? or does it not really matter time wise to much?
mine was just under 20k when i bought it and a couple of thousand later i noticed it was very loud especially in the mornings during winter. i aksed a few people before taking it in and it was golfgirls other half gary who said its the cam and to take it in asap so i did and my car was there for a couple of days because they swore it couldnt be the cam at such low milage and thought it was air con then realised the belt was fooked and replaced everything in there. if i left it much longer i could have ruined my engine so its good that you have taken it in lets hope they can find the problem
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All 2.0 tfsi's are to some extent clattery, After fresh oil change mine is quieter and also when she warms up ,she gets quiter, off idle shes smooth as.
I really would worry about it, yours doesnt sound anyworse then loads ive heard from forum members cars as various meets etc.
not true because my car is now perfect as it should be i will show you next time i see you! honestly i think anyone with this ticking etc should bug the dealers to fix it as its not right, weather the factory fitted some sh*te cams i dont know but yes its common but not right :happy2:
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Yours suffered with the same "Cold Squeek" on the cam roller as mine. We spoke about at jkm, in which my dealer wont let my car stand around long enough to hear it from cold. It is on my list of things MUST be looked at before the warranty is up Feb 2010.
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deffo get it sorted phylis will be happier i suggest you drive down there very slowly on a cold day and it should still be noisy enough for them to know or if not say to them that the need to leave the car for a while say until the next morning before starting it and then they can asses the noise :happy2:
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I am getting paranoid now
my cars always had a sort of loudish growl and folk always think the car has an aftermarket exhaust on when it doesn't. Its that loud i can hear it driving up the road when the missus has it. Stratup is clattery but that the norm. do wish i owuldn't read these noise posts :scared:
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my car was too warm to hear the noise but i think when i go to the blackpool meet im going to walk from car to car listening to the belts go round and comparing lol
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I don't keep my cars long enough to worry about noises, and never out of warranty - bar the DSG box that rattled in my R32, until it was replaced with new, @ 6 months old!
Ive had 3 x 2.0 TFSI's now and they all sound crap at idle, but they had all had exhaust upgrades and that seems to help dull the noise out!
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The fan on my ed30 sounds the same. thats why its now at vw getting it replaced with the noisy water pump aswell. along with the timing belt and aux belt all on warranty :happy2:
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Sounds fine to me. If anything when your cooling fan is running its a little noisier (possibly bearings in the fan motor?). But apart from that, just normal coilpack clicking noises.
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So a little update for those of you who were following this thread. Hopefully those who have similar problems will find this useful. I had my car booked in at VW this morning and have been asked to leave it for a few days so they can give it a good looking over. Someone mentioned that one of there fans wasn't working and within 10 minutes this was the case on mine. The smaller fan wasn't working which was making the larger fan work harder hence the very loud noise.
He wasn't sure about the diesel like sound on start up and was going to take a better look at it today/tomorrow so fingers crossed he will sort it out.
I'll keep you all updated.
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good news dude :happy2:
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Hopefully it'll get sorted. Sometimes when the car is idling, I can barely hear the engine noise!
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Mines a bit rattley on start up, but its ok once warm, i had my cambelt and tensioners done recently and didnt make any difference to it.
Fan wise, the smaller one stopped working in July, its annoys the hell out of me but its £250+ to fix, why cant VW learn how to make a fan last??? They had the same problem with the Mk4 surely they are aware, its probably paranoia but i'm sure certain things are designed with a 3-4year shelf life to keep the garages in business, £100 an hour labour...Whack! :rolleye:
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Does the fan come on all the time?
Mine did at one point and turned out to be a motor at fault. Fixed under warranty and never heard it again. :smiley:
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Hey E30 no the fan doesn't stay on, it comes on but very very loudly to the point where people turn around and look at you lol. But turns out the smaller fan hasn't been turning on which means the larger fan has been spinning faster to pick up the slack.
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Get them to have a look at the cam chain & tensioner (right hand side as you look in the engine bay) mine was as slack as fcuk when it went in.New chain & tensioner & it's fine now,get the cam follower looked at as well.
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Doesn't sound like anything too serious mate, sounds like everything should be sorted soon and you will be back behind the wheel :pomppomp: :pomppomp:
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Another little update
Spoke to the dealers just now and i'm not quite sure about this but the horrible diesel sound on start up was apparently down to the flywheel knocking? Now does this sound rite to you guys?. I have pretty much said that if i go to pick the car up and it still sounds the same i will be leaving it there till it's sorted.
Also i cannot believe this, but my brakes have started to squeak quite badly when i slow down to the point where it's really doing my head in. I asked them to sort this out and i got the reply that basically it's because the brake dust builds up and cars like this will do this!!. My response was "your telling me most Gti's that have ever been sold all do this?" and his response was yes. He said that i could take them apart and clean them but it would happen again. Now can you tell me if your brakes squeak please?.
One good bit of news is the fan has now been fixed and is working lol.
Cheers guys
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mine dont squeel at all.
in the past when ive had brakes that squeel i take them appart have a good clean up scuff the face of the pads with some sandpaper and copperslip the runners and on the backs of the pads and it cures it
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not a sound from the brakes...
do you do many miles? how long was the car sitting idle? was it just after or does this happen all the time?
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I don't do many miles at all really maybe 14 a day. The car mainly does it for about 10 minutes from cold then slowly starts to find away. But I always get the clunk when starting the car, which they said they have sorted.
Could the brakes be because I don't drive it much? Or would you say to the dealers you wan it sorted? I only bought it 2 weeks ago.
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my car sits at work for 4days then i must do about 30miles the following 4days then the cycle starts again. My breaks have squeeked but after some hardish breaking it disappeared.
Previous cars that squeeked i have had cleaned either by compresed air (doesnt work v well) or warrenty as they have squeeked since new. Personally id get them cleaned free by the dealer then see how it goes as the squeeking might not return for a long period of time, and then u might be ready for some pads that produce less dust...
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i do 2 miles a day in my gt tdi and they don't squee at all
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Hey E30 no the fan doesn't stay on, it comes on but very very loudly to the point where people turn around and look at you lol. But turns out the smaller fan hasn't been turning on which means the larger fan has been spinning faster to pick up the slack.
Yeah mine did the same, happend after I had a trial remap..not saying thats at fault though. Very annoying to say the least.
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for the brake problem i would check if the brake pads had been upgraded by the previous owner some track spec pads squeal when they are cold due to them needing to be really hot for use, obviously they have higher operating temps which are seldom achieved on normal roads.
Its just a thought. :smiley:
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i had the same with mine a few months back and it ticks and rattles loudly when cold, eventually got it sorted under warrenty and was the cam belt. mine is now silent and all i can hear when turning the ignition is the exhaust, just how it should be. good luck getting it sorted :happy2:
Now thats what i like to hear silent as a whistle, although it would be nice to have a little growl on turnover. I think this could be the problem them. Should a cam belt go after 20k though? or does it not really matter time wise to much?
mine was just under 20k when i bought it and a couple of thousand later i noticed it was very loud especially in the mornings during winter. i aksed a few people before taking it in and it was golfgirls other half gary who said its the cam and to take it in asap so i did and my car was there for a couple of days because they swore it couldnt be the cam at such low milage and thought it was air con then realised the belt was fooked and replaced everything in there. if i left it much longer i could have ruined my engine so its good that you have taken it in lets hope they can find the problem
Well I too have the tractor rattle syndrome on cold mornings. Looks like this might be the cause. I will get it back in to VW.
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My car sounds abit like a diesel on start up and then is a little tappety. ive just have my car in the dealers and they said it is normal, apparently it is the high pressure fuel pump that causes this tapping noise, but the video is far more extreme tap!
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mine sounds a little noisey on start up then goes away. as for the fan problem it will end up being the same issue as will mk4 golfs where they will only last a few years, its one of those things with vw.
As for the brakes i only do about 2mile a day and mine have never squeeked. Anotherproblem that can cause it is the pads may be glazed up and will require a quick rub down with some sand paper.
Hope they get everything sortedfor you.