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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: tony_danza on February 26, 2014, 10:06:45 am

Title: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: tony_danza on February 26, 2014, 10:06:45 am
By all accounts a pretty damn good hot hatch, whether you like the badge or not, as a car it works.

Now it seems they've gone a little bit loopy. Fair play to them in this climate, I hope VAG get onboard with this type of stuff some day.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=29509
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Post by: Marc-5-GTI on February 26, 2014, 12:26:03 pm
I like that a lot!
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Post by: Chrismeardon on February 26, 2014, 01:22:18 pm
Golf R evo if it ever happens?
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Post by: Hedge on February 26, 2014, 02:17:45 pm
Interesting. Any idea of ££££'s?
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Post by: tony_danza on February 26, 2014, 02:34:55 pm
No idea, but if they get it right - it may achieve R26.R status and defy its awful depreciation habit.

I hope it's good. Not because I want one, but because it makes others take note and replicate.

It'll be interesting to see what the R-Evo is.  :happy2:
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Post by: Scottymon on February 26, 2014, 03:30:40 pm
Looks nicely aggressive, needs a great power to weight ratio to show that wing in public.
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Post by: Tamiyoman on February 26, 2014, 04:08:25 pm
No.....just no.
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Post by: Saintsteve on February 26, 2014, 04:44:32 pm
Interestingly they have removed the one item in its class of the family hot hatchback and that's the "family"aspect..

Why not produce a race car for that segment instead?

Since when can this car be used on the road???? :confused:

I suppose if you don't have any teeth left you can  :innocent:

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Post by: doylebros on February 26, 2014, 04:53:12 pm
An all in one car - Road / Track Then Show and Go!

The price will be interesting guessing at 39k?  Then there's the issue of keeping it at the door!

Either way should be fun and looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.

Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: tony_danza on February 26, 2014, 05:22:57 pm
Interestingly they have removed the one item in its class of the family hot hatchback and that's the "family"aspect..

Why not produce a race car for that segment instead?

Since when can this car be used on the road???? :confused:

I suppose if you don't have any teeth left you can  :innocent:



You can still buy the 'family' version if you like, they've not replaced it.

I don't see how it is any worse a prospect for being a daily driver than 90% of the modified cars on here. And it comes with a warranty.

Granted it's a niche market, but I reckon they'll shift some, just like Renault did with the R26.R
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Post by: Top Cat on February 26, 2014, 05:40:29 pm
370mm discs.   :chicken:  I can't see it suffering from being under braked like the ED30 with that spec braking power.  not gonna be cheap to track either.
Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 26, 2014, 06:07:17 pm
Thanks for that, I'm not a Vauxhall fan

on a plus point I found this on that webpage which made me laugh

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19009
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Post by: GTI5 on February 26, 2014, 06:15:18 pm
Thanks for that, I'm not a Vauxhall fan

on a plus point I found this on that webpage which made me laugh

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19009

That is so sad.

More here...http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=847069&mid=0&i=8660&nmt=Badly+modified+cars+thread&mid=0
Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: GTI5 on February 26, 2014, 06:16:57 pm
Bazzed bodykit perfect for a Mcdonalds car park? It will appeal to a small market, lots of options for a track car in this price bracket.

Reasonable weight difference between a GTI and VXR too.
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Post by: xjay1337 on February 26, 2014, 06:46:32 pm
Thanks for that, I'm not a Vauxhall fan

on a plus point I found this on that webpage which made me laugh

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19009

That is so sad.

More here...http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=847069&mid=0&i=8660&nmt=Badly+modified+cars+thread&mid=0

hAHHAHHAhahhaha
Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: Gide76 on February 26, 2014, 06:57:17 pm
I thought Vauxhall already had quite drastic weight saving with their paper thin dash plastics and deck chair quality seats.

No thanks.


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Post by: Degudodger on February 26, 2014, 08:08:11 pm
Design wise, its a bit too balls out for me  :laugh:
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Post by: simonp on February 26, 2014, 08:57:56 pm
I thought Vauxhall already had quite drastic weight saving with their paper thin dash plastics and deck chair quality seats.

No thanks.

You do know they stopped making the Nova some years back? :indifferent:

As the article states, the Astra was already too heavy, so it needed to go on a diet anyway. Shame they've not done it to the standard model, it might do something about the high CO2 figure...
Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: Gide76 on February 26, 2014, 09:12:52 pm
Yeah sadly I do. I've been subjected to a series of Vauxhall hire cars over the years. Zafiras, vectras and Astras and without fail the interiors have been awful. Thin metal bar to adjust the seats from the 80s, crap plastics and horrid silver painted plastic centre consoles. Truly awful cars. My old mk2 put them to shame, I fact even a mk1 focus is better


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Post by: Dubs on February 26, 2014, 10:13:31 pm
Chav-tastic. I've known tic-tac boxes put together better than most Vauxhalls.
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Post by: dan930 on February 27, 2014, 12:03:11 am
I don't like it...very max power
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Post by: xjay1337 on February 27, 2014, 12:25:52 am
Chav-tastic. I've known tic-tac boxes put together better than most Vauxhalls.

Have to agree.

I'm not going to mug off cars, a mate has had two Vauxhall Corsas and both times there's been lots of annoying little things.. like his brand new VXR within 6 months the lights behind the heater controls packed up so one of the dials wasn't lit up..
Everything you touch feels "cheap". I had a DS3 for a week and that had some cheap touches sure, but everything at sort of hand/eye level was soft touch where as the vauxhall it's all crackly scratchy plastic.
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Post by: MAT ED30 on February 27, 2014, 09:10:43 am
had a new astra hire car a few weeks ago the 1.4 turbo well it was ok as a daily but inside was very cheap and plastic and when you put the handbrake down your hand hit the gearstick surround  :confused: did drive ok though and plenty of room but not special at all but if your just after a car as a daily its not bad.
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Post by: chris-182 on March 02, 2014, 11:18:36 am
Yeah sadly I do. I've been subjected to a series of Vauxhall hire cars over the years. Zafiras, vectras and Astras and without fail the interiors have been awful. Thin metal bar to adjust the seats from the 80s, crap plastics and horrid silver painted plastic centre consoles. Truly awful cars. My old mk2 put them to shame, I fact even a mk1 focus is better


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mk1 focus are brilliant cars! they just keep going no matter what!
Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: Gide76 on March 02, 2014, 12:45:31 pm
Yeah have to agree my gf had a 2.0 zetec 3 door from new. It has never missed a beat and has worn well. Handles brilliantly.

Just referenced it as a similarly priced car to the vauxhalls yet better in so many ways. 


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Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: chris-182 on March 02, 2014, 02:15:38 pm
ahh yeah, a much better car than the Astra in all variants! just like the fiesta is to the corsa and so on
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Post by: simonp on March 02, 2014, 03:11:09 pm
The 1.8 TDCi wasn't a good car. Borderline dangerous, I'd say, they pulled away so slowly!
Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: tony_danza on March 02, 2014, 03:27:09 pm
LOL..

As I said, it's not really about the 'quality' of the car (although the VXR is winning a lot of praise, as is the ST)... It's the stones to put out a track spec model with some serious spec/consideration.

In real terms it costs a manufacturer very little to do something like this, and it's what people have been craving for years and try to emulate with modding their own cars. Sure, actual buyers may be low, but then that helps with residuals. R26.R still circling £15-16k. R26s are £6-7k.
Title: Re: Pretty ballsy move by Vauxhall...
Post by: simonp on March 02, 2014, 03:28:58 pm
What also helps with the R26.R is that they only managed to sell half of them!
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Post by: tony_danza on March 02, 2014, 03:34:59 pm
True, but that was more the fault of the world's economy falling apart. I believe Renault drip fed a load back into the UK a few years later.
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Post by: simonp on March 02, 2014, 03:48:40 pm
I thought I remembered reading on the Renaultsport forums that they were shipped back to the continent and converted to LHD?
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Post by: liver on March 03, 2014, 02:53:46 pm
The R26R didn't sell no where near what they though they were going to

They were set to make 450 of them with 250 of them coming to England.

However there are only 80 left in the UK, 65 on the roads and 15 SORN

Quite a few of the UK cars were sold abroad.
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Post by: simonp on March 03, 2014, 09:12:30 pm
Is that from that stoopid how many left website? I'm sure Renault sold something like 157 in the UK, so I can't believe half of them are no longer with us...