MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Ranbeer Singh on March 01, 2014, 04:59:26 pm
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Hi all,
I have a GTI, RTech stage 1, RTech DSG map.
I have had the maps a while and had no problems.. In fact it's been fantastic. Recently when driving sensibly in D mode the car seems to hold higher revs for a lot longer (now 2500 to 3000 compared to 2000). This is intermittent. Do you think it is just a mapping issue or something more serious?
Any advice would be welcome.
Rick
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Hi all,
I have a GTI, RTech stage 1, RTech DSG map.
I have had the maps a while and had no problems.. In fact it's been fantastic. Recently when driving sensibly in D mode the car seems to hold higher revs for a lot longer (now 2500 to 3000 compared to 2000). This is intermittent. Do you think it is just a mapping issue or something more serious?
Any advice would be welcome.
Rick
You had the gearbox serviced recently?
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DSG oil changed approx 4000 miles ago
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DSG mechatronic has fuzzy logic and tends to adapt to your driving pattern.
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So you think its a mechatronics issue and cannot be fixed by remapping the DSG? I've has the map for about 20k miles and have had no issues previously.
Rick
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IMO it doesn't sound like "an issue", just the dsg adapting to your driving pattern.
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^^^
I've had the map for over a year now so why change now? I guess I need to approve my driving pattern :driver:
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This is really getting annoying now. Sometimes I can be driving at 60mph in 6th gear and other times im in 4th gear...
Do you think a simple trip to R-Tech can solve this or is it more serious?
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Could try a full DSG reset/adaption? There is a guide on the forum somwhere.
A dsg remap won't fix issue.
Nick
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Could try a full DSG reset/adaption? There is a guide on the forum somwhere.
A dsg remap won't fix issue.
Nick
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,24158.0.html
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Automatic google search.... Lol
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Thanks Chaps.
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Have you had the battery off the car.
The DSG has reset happened to me after I had the battery off and when I had a DSG Service
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Battery hasn't been off. I did reset the navigation system by removing a fuse.
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Can anyone do a DSG reset for me? I'm based in Coventry.
Rick
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Can anyone do a DSG reset for me? I'm based in Coventry.
Rick
Check to see who is closest to you.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,120.msg812454.html#msg812454
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Thanks Pal...
Last question i promise.... will the DSG reset remove my DSG map ??
Thanks.
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Thanks Pal...
Last question i promise.... will the DSG reset remove my DSG map ??
Thanks.
no
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Just a quick input from me - from a Danish forum I have read about various cases with same symptom like yours.
All were fixed with a new rear wheel bearing (one of them was faulty), maybe it could fix your problem as well?
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Update:
Spoke to R-Tech and have been advised that the DSG map will not be wiped if I follow the procedure in the link. :jumpmove:
BigMig95 has very kindly offered to do the reset tomorrow so will let you know how that goes...
Manthei... If the reset doesnt work I will try the wheel bearing... its very strange thing to change regarding my symptoms but what the heck!
Thanks
Rick
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Update:
BigMig95 has very kindly offered to do the reset tomorrow so will let you know how that goes...
The test drive afterwards is said to be important in resetting the box so do try to do it.
"Drive in Tiptronic Mode from stand still up to 6th Gear.
While doing that make sure to drive in Gears 3 or 5 for approx. 5 minutes and also in 4 or 6 for approx. 5 minutes.
The engine speed window for all gears is 1200 - 3500 RPM (for clutch calibration)".
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Update:
Spoke to R-Tech and have been advised that the DSG map will not be wiped if I follow the procedure in the link. :jumpmove:
BigMig95 has very kindly offered to do the reset tomorrow so will let you know how that goes...
Manthei... If the reset doesnt work I will try the wheel bearing... its very strange thing to change regarding my symptoms but what the heck!
Thanks
Rick
You could ask BigMig95 if he could help you measure the speed on each wheel - in VAG-COM/VCDS if the reset is not working. If there is a spike in speed (1 km/h) on one wheel you should have found the faulty wheel bearing or ABS ring :smiley: It is those spikes that makes the DSG stay in gears from what I heard - I am not a mechanic :wink:
Another way to test it should be to take out the fuse to the ABS - if it runs fine without that the problem is most likely the wheel bearing and/or ABS ring - you just need to find the faulty one as mentioned above.
Hope you find a solution!
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Update: Carried out the DSG reset as recommended with help
of BigMig95. To start with it was working fine but now it's back to how it was :sad1:
Next step is to carry out the wheel speed test as mentioned by Manthei.
Will do this hopefully in the next few days. Really need to get this sorted!
If anyone else has had the same problem, or can help, it would be much appreciated.
Rick
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Rick,
You tried pulling the ABS fuse as recommended by Manthei. Not that familiar with the vehicles braking circuit but might be worth a try and is quick and easy to do ? Get some more input on this as I personally wouldn't want to mess with the braking circuit without being 100% sure I knew what I was doing. Should just disable the ABS but it's something you need to be sure about.
Make sure your brakes work ok though before going out on a decent test drive :scared: :laugh:
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You tried pulling the ABS fuse as recommended by Manthei. Not that familiar with the vehicles braking circuit but might be worth a try and is quick and easy to do ? Get some more input on this as I personally wouldn't want to mess with the braking circuit without being 100% sure I knew what I was doing. Should just disable the ABS but it's something you need to be sure about.
Can anyone confirm that this will cause any issue?
Thanks,
Rick
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I think you need to get it looked at. Theres only so much advice people can give without seeing the car first hand.
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Will get it looked at but want to know if I pull the ABS fuse out the car will be ok...
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If you pull the ABS fuse, the brakes will still work, but will have more rear bias - the ABS controls the rear bias.
Just avoid braking hard on turn-in to bends, or down hill. If you do, you might find the rear end stepping out.
I also confirm that faults with the ABS - particularly the rear wheel sensors and/or sensor rings can affect the shift on the DSG, as can a tired battery.
HTH :smiley:
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Will get it looked at but want to know if I pull the ABS fuse out the car will be ok...
no the car will burst into flames the minute the fuse is removed!!! :signLOL:
If you don't know if the car is ok to drive without ABS then you should really take your car to a garage who specialises in VW/DSG perhaps, and leave the diagnosing to them. :happy2:
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Will get it looked at but want to know if I pull the ABS fuse out the car will be ok...
If you don't know if the car is ok to drive without ABS then you should really take your car to a garage who specialises in VW/DSG perhaps, and leave the diagnosing to them. :happy2:
That response was not particularly helpful. The OP already stated he'll get the car looked at. He simply wanted to know what the implications were with no ABS.
From my own professional, and exceedingly lengthy experience - having non-working ABS is no different to say pre-ABS cars being driven with seized rear brake load proportioning or load limiting vavles. And again, relying on my said experience - driving a car with just one tyre under-inflated by a mere 6 psi is arguably more dangerous than no ABS.
I've not been around here for a while (for very personal reasons), but I thought the fundamental ethos of this particular highly regarded forum was to help out others with genuinely helpful (and where possible - technical) information. I'm not sure your previous post met that particular standard of ethos. By all means, add banter, and berate the stupid - but only AFTER they've been advised of the correct info.
Just my very humble opinion, Guv. :drinking:
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Many thanks Teutonic Tamer!
I have joined this forum such ADVICE...not to be mocked.
Will keep everyone updated on what happens - It may be a nighmare for me but hopefully it can help others if they ever find themselves in the same situation.
Rick
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Will get it looked at but want to know if I pull the ABS fuse out the car will be ok...
If you don't know if the car is ok to drive without ABS then you should really take your car to a garage who specialises in VW/DSG perhaps, and leave the diagnosing to them. :happy2:
That response was not particularly helpful. The OP already stated he'll get the car looked at. He simply wanted to know what the implications were with no ABS.
From my own professional, and exceedingly lengthy experience - having non-working ABS is no different to say pre-ABS cars being driven with seized rear brake load proportioning or load limiting vavles. And again, relying on my said experience - driving a car with just one tyre under-inflated by a mere 6 psi is arguably more dangerous than no ABS.
I've not been around here for a while (for very personal reasons), but I thought the fundamental ethos of this particular highly regarded forum was to help out others with genuinely helpful (and where possible - technical) information. I'm not sure your previous post met that particular standard of ethos. By all means, add banter, and berate the stupid - but only AFTER they've been advised of the correct info.
Just my very humble opinion, Guv. :drinking:
I was only advising.
I have messed around with cars before I really understood what I was doing and done a lot of damage.
So I would advise if you don't really know what you're doing then a garage would be the best and safest option.
No offense meant..
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no problem :happy2:
Rick
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Update:
Thankfully it was not the DSG at fault :grin:
Manthei was absolutley right - changed the ABS rings and bearing and jobs a good'un!
I would like to thank everyone who has helped.
Cheers! :happy2:
Rick
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Glad you got it sorted Rick :happy2:
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How much did it cost?
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Still waiting for the final invoice but I think around £200 parts and £120 labour.
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Is that stealer prices?
How did u test to see if it was the abs ring?
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I'm sure you can check using VAG COM.
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i had the same fault , put a post on here and got no replys , anyway when the wheel bearing came off the abs ring was in a right state new bearing and jobs a goodun
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Update:
Thankfully it was not the DSG at fault :grin:
Manthei was absolutley right - changed the ABS rings and bearing and jobs a good'un!
I would like to thank everyone who has helped.
Cheers! :happy2:
Rick
Great you got it sorted out :happy2: