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Title: Tyre Direction
Post by: Craigh1983 on March 09, 2014, 06:54:25 pm
Hey guys,

I bought 4 brand new Uniroyal Rainsport 3 couple of months back and had them fitted at a garage.
I noticed that they have a very distinctive tread pattern and have looked on the internet at the direction they should be facing.

On the left hand side of the car they seem to be facing the right way so that the water would be taken away to the edges should it go over water. Yet on the right hand side of the car the edges would take the water to the middle of the tyre. Basically the right hand side is facing the opposite way to the left.

However all 4 tyres say 'outside' on them and the word 'outside' is facing the outside on all of them. I'm getting confused even just writing this.

How has this happened? Surely they should all be facing the correct direction? If I bought 4 identical tyres and they all said 'outside' on the same side then 2 are always going to be backwards?

SORRY ABOUT THE DRAWING LOL

Cheers
Craigh

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Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: edd666999 on March 09, 2014, 07:02:11 pm
I think a photo will be required  :grin:
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: Craigh1983 on March 09, 2014, 07:09:26 pm
I think a photo will be required  :grin:

Photo added :)
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: Marc-5-GTI on March 09, 2014, 07:15:39 pm
I thought the exact thing when fitting my new wheels with Goodyear eagle f1 Assys on.. Turns out that's what asymmetric means  :ashamed:

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/safety/directional-and-asymmetric-tyres.html

EDIT: your tyres are fine 
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: edd666999 on March 09, 2014, 07:17:36 pm
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Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: Craigh1983 on March 09, 2014, 07:19:57 pm
I thought the exact thing when fitting my new wheels with Goodyear eagle f1 Assys on.. Turns out that's what asymmetric means  :ashamed:

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/safety/directional-and-asymmetric-tyres.html

So mine would be classed as directional. So in that case you would have to buy 2 left hand side tyres and 2 right hand side tyres?
However if you buy 4 identical ones then you would have to put 2 of them that say 'outside' actually on the inside.

This is hurting my head lol It just doesn't make sense that they would all say outside on the same side as each other or two of them will always be the wrong direction  :confused:
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: Marc-5-GTI on March 09, 2014, 07:21:12 pm
I thought the exact thing when fitting my new wheels with Goodyear eagle f1 Assys on.. Turns out that's what asymmetric means  :ashamed:

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/safety/directional-and-asymmetric-tyres.html

So mine would be classed as directional. So in that case you would have to buy 2 left hand side tyres and 2 right hand side tyres?
However if you buy 4 identical ones then you would have to put 2 of them that say 'outside' actually on the inside.

This is hurting my head lol It just doesn't make sense that they would all say outside on the same side as each other or two of them will always be the wrong direction  :confused:

No.. From what I can tell from your OP, the tyres are asymmetric and so are fine  :happy2:


Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: Craigh1983 on March 09, 2014, 07:21:49 pm
So from your pic Ed (which are the Uniroyal rainsport 3's) the right hand one of them is dragging water to the middle of the tyre. Why would one side be different?
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: v4rley on March 09, 2014, 07:22:34 pm
I currently has some avon ice touring, when I fitted them I was the same  :surprised:

My avon and yours (I believe) are Asymmetric tyres, and I think it's just the way they are!  :confused:
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: xjay1337 on March 09, 2014, 07:23:50 pm
Looks fine to me.

That's how they are

Exactly the same with my Vred Sessantas.
The tyres are also marked outside which you could check yourself too ...  :happy2:

they are fine and that is how they are.
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: edd666999 on March 09, 2014, 07:26:07 pm
http://www.uniroyal-tyres.com/www/uniroyal_tires_de_en/themes/summertires/fd_rainsport-3/rainsport-3.html

Click fitment on car
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: edd666999 on March 09, 2014, 07:27:47 pm
For the lazy:

Since the footprint of UHP tires are wide and small and the RainSport 3 grooves are long and steep there is only a small part of the grooves within the footprint at the same time. Therefore the direction of the grooves in the footprint does not matter since they work more or less like standard circumferential grooves.

As the four groove asymmetrical pattern concept is common in the market, customers may expect that the handling part of the RainSport 3 is linked to the part which looks more familiar to a standard asymmetrical pattern:



But this perception is wrong. The new flow optimised pattern structure enables an even larger macro block structure which improves handling. Therefore the water flow optimized area must be focused on handling characteristics:
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: Craigh1983 on March 09, 2014, 07:32:40 pm
For the lazy:

Since the footprint of UHP tires are wide and small and the RainSport 3 grooves are long and steep there is only a small part of the grooves within the footprint at the same time. Therefore the direction of the grooves in the footprint does not matter since they work more or less like standard circumferential grooves.

As the four groove asymmetrical pattern concept is common in the market, customers may expect that the handling part of the RainSport 3 is linked to the part which looks more familiar to a standard asymmetrical pattern:



But this perception is wrong. The new flow optimised pattern structure enables an even larger macro block structure which improves handling. Therefore the water flow optimized area must be focused on handling characteristics:

Errrrrrrrrr..... I take your word for it lol I understood none of that :) haha
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: rich83 on March 09, 2014, 07:59:23 pm
They are fine... they are asymmetric patten despite the fact the looks very similar to symmetrical tread.
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: MC71 on March 09, 2014, 08:10:24 pm
As above, they're fine!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: Andy on March 09, 2014, 08:15:49 pm
they will worjk fine and they are asymetric tyres...I get this question all the time
Title: Re: Tyre Direction
Post by: Craigh1983 on March 09, 2014, 08:28:16 pm
That's good to know. Was bugging me for a while so thought if best check or it would do my head in  :happy2: