MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 06:44:01 pm

Title: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 06:44:01 pm
I (with MortyGTTDI's help) fitted an RNS 510 to my car. I also have a Blaupunkt 555 amp and JL audio 12 inch sub. I am now getting really bad interference in the radio. It loses signal, sometimes it gets really bad and I have to turn it off. I used a proper ariel adaptor. I do not understand what is wrong with it as it worked fine with the old radio installed. DOes anyone have any ideas?
Also the CD has started to make clicking noises when im listening. (it is not the cd as I have tried more than one) Anyone have any ideas on this?
Any input would be appreciated as it is driving me mad!
Thanks :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: JPC on October 07, 2009, 06:51:58 pm
Did u use any antenna plug adaptor thingies?
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 06:53:50 pm
Did u use any antenna plug adaptor thingies?

Yeah used a proper one. (Instead of using the cable sheath)
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: vRStu on October 07, 2009, 06:56:38 pm
When you say you used an antenna adaptor can you be more specific.

I'd guess the clicking is an issue with the ground pin.   Take a look at the wiring and compare with the pin out sticker on the unit.  Very common, you'll just need to swap the pin.
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 07:00:19 pm
Im not sure what the adaptor was. I just took the two separate aerial plugs that came on the car standard (rcd 300) slotted the two aerial leads in to the new single adaptor and plugged into the rns.
Ill have a look for the ground pin. :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: vRStu on October 07, 2009, 07:05:26 pm
I think it's 2 and 3 on the blue part of the Quadlock connector that need swapping.

I'm guessing the antenna issue is the adaptor.
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: QD MBE on October 07, 2009, 07:09:48 pm
The RNS I fitted had 2 aerial inputs.  

Is the adaptor like the one in the link?


http://www.my-gti.com/1088/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter (http://www.my-gti.com/1088/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter)
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 07:13:14 pm
It is like the one in the pic except it did not have the wires. I was just a little block that connected onto the two origin aerial leads and then into the rns. The original colored plastic on the original aerial wires was removed.
Do you think this is the problem?
Cheers  :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: QD MBE on October 07, 2009, 07:19:59 pm
All i did was remove the plastic shrouds from the original aerial leads and fit them straight onto the back of the RNS.  The shorouds are removed really easily, they are the brown and grey bits in the pic below.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.my-gti.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fantenna_2nd_generation-300x225.jpg&hash=978a42859cab6bced494d1e70a9ac4751e087f59)

This will leave you with 2 x the below.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.my-gti.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fantenna_2nd_generation_removed-300x225.jpg&hash=8d27247ace1c2615b3b941da9ffeea0ec2866b16)

Then I just fitted them in the back of the RNS.

Stu may also have point.....................
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: QD MBE on October 07, 2009, 07:21:36 pm
Good link too...........

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.my-gti.com%2F1088%2Fupgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter&hash=8f87712ae6e42c1ea2f5fad4a5299e06312d13ff)
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 07:45:25 pm
Whats the link? :laugh:
Cheers for the info so I should have a look at the ground pin for the cd clicking and take the adaptor i used off and connect straight to the rns.
Cheers :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: stealthwolf on October 07, 2009, 07:52:10 pm
Did you place them in the right way round? Sounds silly but apparently a known cause of your problem.
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 07:56:16 pm
Yeah placed them the same way as they were on the car originally. I might switch them over to try before removing it totally. Cheers
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: QD MBE on October 07, 2009, 07:56:36 pm
http://www.my-gti.com/1088/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter (http://www.my-gti.com/1088/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter)
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 08:02:38 pm
http://www.my-gti.com/1088/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter (http://www.my-gti.com/1088/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter)
Ohh that one. Thanks :happy2:
Have you had any issues with the aerial connections falling out?
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: QD MBE on October 07, 2009, 08:05:27 pm
I fitted them, and used a small cable tie to secure the cables to the RNS.  I secured them to the outer edge of the fan grill, you will see what I mean when you take you set out.

:happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 09:13:00 pm
Just been out and removed the adaptor and plug them straight in. It seems to be better but i haven't drove it far so we will see tomorrow.
I had a look at the ground pin on sticker and it was three but I do not understand what I am swapping. They all looked the same. :confused:
Cheers :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: vRStu on October 07, 2009, 09:42:01 pm
The cable from two into three and vice versa.
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 07, 2009, 09:50:26 pm
The cable from two into three and vice versa.

ohhhhhh i get you now cheers :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: mortygttdi on October 07, 2009, 11:06:49 pm
ollie sorry abit off topic picked my slip ring us today but still waiting for the controller i also ordered a GTD badge for my steering wheel.  It carnt be the adaptor cop ive got the same one there from vw and mine has perfect reception? Ide in with what Stu was saying.   
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: monte on October 08, 2009, 12:05:47 am
Hi there ollie,

i know this is kinda off topic, but could you tell me if the RNS510 had RCA sockets for the amp leads?
cheers mate  :drinking:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: vRStu on October 08, 2009, 07:20:31 am
No it doesn't but you could make a flying lead to attach them.
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: stealthwolf on October 08, 2009, 08:30:11 am
The cable from two into three and vice versa.
Make sure you pull out the right wire. For some reason, I pulled out the wrong one and only realised after I'd pulled it out. they're a pain in a backside to do.
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on October 09, 2009, 07:52:54 pm
@ Stealthwolf - Do they just pull out and push back in?

@ anyone Removing the connector has slightly improved it but still no where near as good as it was with my RCD300. Also the clicking is getting worse and even comes on with the navigation voice! Ill have a look at the wires.
So I just swap the earth with 2?
Cheers

Also what aftermarket speakers would be good for the mk5. As I said early I have a Sub and Blaupunkt 555 amp.
 :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: stealthwolf on October 09, 2009, 08:39:56 pm
Taking the individual wires out of the plug is a complete paint the backside. I used a prong of a tweezer to ease the wire. The wires have 'barbs' to keep them in place.
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: ollie288 on November 08, 2009, 10:50:52 am
Hi there ollie,

i know this is kinda off topic, but could you tell me if the RNS510 had RCA sockets for the amp leads?
cheers mate  :drinking:

Just read this post. No it doesn't. I used a Blaupunkt THA 555 Amp which uses a separate wiring loom. The normal quad-lock goes into the new wiring loom and there is a quad-lock on the new loom which goes into the back of the RNS. That is all that is required to fit it. Its really easy! :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: mclovin on November 09, 2009, 07:01:44 pm
You can also use a Line Output Converter (LOC) to get a line-level output, I'm making up a plug and play wiring loom right now with a LOC attached to it so I can use it with my amp and sub. I'll write it all up once I've done it and post it up here if that helps?
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: monte on November 09, 2009, 09:51:52 pm
You can also use a Line Output Converter (LOC) to get a line-level output, I'm making up a plug and play wiring loom right now with a LOC attached to it so I can use it with my amp and sub. I'll write it all up once I've done it and post it up here if that helps?

 That would be Great!....................Just like your forum name :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS 510 Installed but......
Post by: mclovin on November 09, 2009, 10:38:52 pm
Cheers! The plug and play wiring loom I'm making will also connect up my Bluetooth kit and the MDI kit, but it can easily be built up in stages. It took me ages to dig out all the bits of info I needed, pull it together everything out and get all the right bits so I figured there was a need to put a guide together for anyone else who might want to do this.

I though I'd do it in three parts, LOC/amp connector first, then with bluetooth connection and then with the MDI but the MDI kit has some duplicate parts in it so I'm not sure if that's the right order - Either way I'll figure it out and put something together.