MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: spliff1star on October 11, 2009, 12:15:54 pm
-
Is the 2.0 tsi turbo any good? Is it better than the 2.0 fsi turbo?
Reason I say this is because the r20 is using the fsi unit and not the newer tsi unit
-
I read somewhere (will see if i can find it) that the reason they are using the FSi rather than TSi is that the FSi responds better to tuning than the TSi so they were able to get the power they wanted without making "major" changes to the Engine.
Carl :happy2:
-
It was probably less costly to use the FSI and K04 as it is already a proven product with the S3 and ED30 etc. Mating a K04 to the TSI would have meant a lot more development costs.
-
It was probably less costly to use the FSI and K04 as it is already a proven product with the S3 and ED30 etc. Mating a K04 to the TSI would have meant a lot more development costs.
it shouldnt really, well it does and it doesnt. The tsi doesnt have alot of the same design flaws as the tfsi.
The bean counters just won that battle.
-
So the new R doesnt have the cam chain then?
-
So the new R doesnt have the cam chain then?
No...
-
So the new R doesnt have the cam chain then?
No...
....Makes me wonder just how important these 'progress' changes really are.
Organic evolution?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_INK%2FEvolution.jpg&hash=ae2a31c42fa9c595e60c1331e190708137c10c6b)
-
APR has seen great potential with the re-map's on the new TSi engines, they have managed to get similar Stage 2+ gains without the need of an uprated HPFP for example, so it looks interesting :happy2:
-
The TSI won't need an uprated pump as it can deliver 140bar out of the factory.
-
The TSI won't need an uprated pump as it can deliver 140bar out of the factory.
don't quote me, but i'm sure i read 150bar somewhere :smiley:
-
don't quote me, but i'm sure i read 150bar somewhere :smiley:
You may be correct but whatever the actual value, it puts out more bar than an uprated HPFP for the FSI engine.
-
Pressure isn't everything. Tha failings with the TFSi stock pump were due to lack of volume and thus not being able to maintain the required pressure in the rail at certain RPM's.
-
Pressure isn't everything. Tha failings with the TFSi stock pump were due to lack of volume and thus not being able to maintain the required pressure in the rail at certain RPM's.
What stu said lol.
Im keeping a keen eye on a OEM "uprated" fuel pump for our cars, and as soon as I get some hard figures and confirmation that it is indeed improved over our pumps will post up the details straight away :happy2:
-
So where does that leave the mk6 golf gti is that less tunable than the mk5 gti then so there be no ed30 mk6 model?
-
Maybe an edition 35 mk7 with 3.5 litre twin turbo, 4wd. :booty: :booty: If you plant the seed.......
-
so Im assuming the cam follower 'issue' potentially remains for the R20 ??
have they made any upgrades to the TFSI given the number of years its been running?
-
so Im assuming the cam follower 'issue' potentially remains for the R20 ??
have they made any upgrades to the TFSI given the number of years its been running?
just slight revisions here and there, but alot of design flaws still remain.
-
So where does that leave the mk6 golf gti is that less tunable than the mk5 gti then so there be no ed30 mk6 model?
mk6 gti maps straight to 275hp due to not beig hindered by the fuel pump inefficiency as the mk5 gti.
-
So where does that leave the mk6 golf gti is that less tunable than the mk5 gti then so there be no ed30 mk6 model?
They will probably just give it a remap out of the factory. Thats what they did for the mk4 anni. Same engine mapped to 180 bhp instead of 150 ...
-
So where does that leave the mk6 golf gti is that less tunable than the mk5 gti then so there be no ed30 mk6 model?
They will probably just give it a remap out of the factory. Thats what they did for the mk4 anni. Same engine mapped to 180 bhp instead of 150 ...
thought the 180 had a different turbo, KO3S instead of the KO3 :smiley:
-
Oh I see so as I'm bookin mine to get a remap what will mine map to with no mods? Some companys qoute 40 some 65bhp
-
So where does that leave the mk6 golf gti is that less tunable than the mk5 gti then so there be no ed30 mk6 model?
They will probably just give it a remap out of the factory. Thats what they did for the mk4 anni. Same engine mapped to 180 bhp instead of 150 ...
Im sure it had a different turbo?
-
i was told 150bar by revo, consensus is its tunable but main limit as always is smaller turbo, i'm looking forward to the roc going stage 2 in november to see what they tsi will do
the tsi is totally different to unit in ed30 with power delivery and how you need to drive it
-
So where does that leave the mk6 golf gti is that less tunable than the mk5 gti then so there be no ed30 mk6 model?
They will probably just give it a remap out of the factory. Thats what they did for the mk4 anni. Same engine mapped to 180 bhp instead of 150 ...
Im sure it had a different turbo?
No, the earlier 1.8T's had the K03 and a cable throttle. There were a couple of revisions of this engine and I forget the engine codes. Then the AUM was introduced from around 2001 that had variable valve timing, the K03s turbo and drive by wire amongst other changes but was still 150 bhp as per the previous engines.
Then the 25th Anni was released with the AUQ engine but this was identical bar the map to the AUM (Same KO3s turbo). In fact this engine became the standard GTI engine towards the end with non anni's leaving the factory with 180 bhp :smiley: