MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Bazgti on April 10, 2014, 09:13:36 pm
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As the heading says...Is it just me or is the car scene dying? Just been for a quick blast round my area (Oldham, Saddleworth, Rochdale) n i didnt see a single nice motor darting about. Definately nothing modified and not even a kid ragging his 1.0 rattle box about. Of days gone by the asian lads round my area had fettled motors new and old and even theyve gone awol. Bit disapointed... On a lighter note my old girl is running sweet as a nut with new stoppers bedding in nicely. Hopefully have a nice sunny sunday to give her a tickle with some polish :happy2:
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I do agree you see far less modded cars now, when i was young there was a plethora of French clutter - AX Gt's, 5 Turbo's and 205 Gti's, with Astra GTE, Escort xr3i and RS Turbo and then Mk2 Golfs and Sciroccos.
These days you see colour coded Vauxhall Corsas with black wheels which look sporty but are probably slower than a Nova SR with a few mods!
It is simple - people just cant afford the insurance these days to mod or cant afford the actual mods as have been struggling to get work etc.
Every other car is now an Audi or a BMW and furhter more peopel driving a 116d 1 series BELIEVE they are driving a sporty car just cause it has a BMW badege then look shocked when an old slammed MX5 leaves them for dead :signLOL:
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I think mods are more OEM+ so you don't actually notice how modified a car actually is
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I know what you mean
Just keep seeing loads of big company cars (audi's BMWs etc)
Only seen a few hot hatches recently, and most of them were Focus STs!!!!!
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Astra Gte, Nova Gte/Gsi, 205Gti, cavalier turbo, Mk2 Gti, 5gtt glad I'm just old enough to have been in that era :driver:
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As the heading says...Is it just me or is the car scene dying? Just been for a quick blast round my area (Oldham, Saddleworth, Rochdale) n i didnt see a single nice motor darting about. Definately nothing modified and not even a kid ragging his 1.0 rattle box about. Of days gone by the asian lads round my area had fettled motors new and old and even theyve gone awol. Bit disapointed... On a lighter note my old girl is running sweet as a nut with new stoppers bedding in nicely. Hopefully have a nice sunny sunday to give her a tickle with some polish :happy2:
Try standing outside the Commercial or Hare N' Hounds in Uppermill on a Friday/Saturday night you will see plenty of young lads giving it the beans thrashing their 1.0 Corsas (Or similar) with big bore exhaust, Tunes blasting etc, all noise and no go :grin: :grin:, can be quite funny watching it, even the young ladies tut or laugh at em (In Saddleworth you need to be driving something MUCH more upmarket to get the young ladies attention).
Saddleworth housewives cars are generally Range Rovers, Audi Q3/5/7, BMW X3/5/6 etc etc :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Scarboro north bay.
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I think your right, but it's more the modding scene has changed and like everything else the innocence has gone. The days of twin headlamp conversions and stainless exhausts getting you into max power are long gone.
Now there are modded cars but they get '000s spent on them, while most of the things (we) wanted to change in days gone by like hifi, big wheels etc are included as standard on cars now.
There's still a huge track scene where people modify for performance over style.
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Car scene used to be basic back in the early 90's before max power, mobile phones and the internet. It was word of mouth or a common meeting up place. Here are some pics from back in the day. I certainly dont go road racing and doing dougnuts any more ..... I a far too sensible these days
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Car scene used to be basic back in the early 90's before max power, mobile phones and the internet. It was word of mouth or a common meeting up place. Here are some pics from back in the day. I certainly dont go road racing and doing dougnuts any more ..... I a far too sensible these days
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Brilliant pics!
I had a Nova merit with a gte kit on and gte seats. 17" alessio speedlines with a 1.6 carb cavalier in my 1st motor. It was painted in ford mallard green. Lovely little thing. Just didnt like corners or stopping! Haha :driver:
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A lesson / alessio 2 were THE wheel for the Corsa / Nova in the day :love:
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They looked the dogs dangleys. £1200 from wheelbase near me. My 1st finance purchase as an ADULT! Haha The car only cost me £250.
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SAFF!!!!!
Great pics.
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Definitely dying IMO. I'm 26 driving 9 years and I've noticed it in that short space of time. Gone are the days of traffic light GP's in french cars :signLOL:. Kind of sad really because even though most of the cars were sh*tboxes, it doesn't mean they were less passionate about cars than anyone else.
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Astra Gte, Nova Gte/Gsi, 205Gti, cavalier turbo, Mk2 Gti, 5gtt glad I'm just old enough to have been in that era :driver:
What an era....back then there was no willy waving forum antics saying ive got a bigger turbo than you so ner ner... :P
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Those were the good old days :driver:
Next to no speed cameras , police in senator 24v cars, racing every day !
It was a glorious era , no ABS , no traction control , cheap petrol .
Non stop road racing in car with 57i induction kits, piper cams, magnex exhausts, bbr star chips ......
This is all before the japanese import revolution,
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I don't think it's dying as such, but the recession and other economic contributing factors have definitely had an effect.
The main one being, motoring is the most expensive it's ever been in the short ten years I've been driving.
I know more people than not, some of them good friends, that have traded in their hot hatch or 200hp+ petrols for the equivalent TDI's and taken a step back from the scene purely because they don't feel their single daily vehicle necessarily has a place on the car scene, like their Civic Type-R/Golf GTI/Audi S3 etc... had or still has today (me being one of them!).
Maybe for a lot of people too as we get older and have property/kids and so on, it's inevitable that you move on from the 'scene' but the VW shows I go to are still well attended and supported, just like when I first started going really.
It's probably the same cycle, just seen from different angles.
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Still loads of kids in their saxos (or C2's these days :laugh:) hanging around my local tesco.
Used to be a big "cruise" in Stoke On Trent every Sunday but the police have put a stop to it
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Used to be a big "cruise" in Stoke On Trent every Sunday but the police have put a stop to it
Fezzy Park cruise, them were the days :happy2:
Still got the copy of Max Power that me and my Rs Turbo were in at Festival Park when they came down as part of their cruise feature, I also got reported for doing a burnout in an Enterprise escort rental van, oh and knocked the mirror off a Carlton Gsi after overcooking a wheelie on my CBR600 and flipping it! Told you them were the days :grin:
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I guess times have changed nowadays- the "yoof" of today have so many other entertainment outlets. They roll out of bed and its straight onto facebook before checking which celeb tweeted what. Next, its onto instagram to see who took a selfie and where, before you know it, its lunch so that means posting it on twitter / facebook / snap chat for all to see.
Next, they fire up the PS3/PS4 and drive the best sports car in the world and can mod them to their hearts content. Once the racing is done, its either going out to the trendy places - making sure to announce it on facebook by "checking in" or staying in to watch Britain's got talent / xfactor / the voice and posting a running commentary on facebook / twitter.
oh, having an abundance of porn to suit all tastes on tap seems to effect the car scene as well!
Rich
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Used to be a big "cruise" in Stoke On Trent every Sunday but the police have put a stop to it
Fezzy Park cruise, them were the days :happy2:
Still got the copy of Max Power that me and my Rs Turbo were in at Festival Park when they came down as part of their cruise feature, I also got reported for doing a burnout in an Enterprise escort rental van, oh and knocked the mirror off a Carlton Gsi after overcooking a wheelie on my CBR600 and flipping it! Told you them were the days :grin:
That's the one :happy2:
I was 18YO and drove a Fiesta 1.25 Zetec back then. The 1.0 Saxos didn't stand a chance
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I guess times have changed nowadays- the "yoof" of today have so many other entertainment outlets. They roll out of bed and its straight onto facebook before checking which celeb tweeted what. Next, its onto instagram to see who took a selfie and where, before you know it, its lunch so that means posting it on twitter / facebook / snap chat for all to see.
Next, they fire up the PS3/PS4 and drive the best sports car in the world and can mod them to their hearts content. Once the racing is done, its either going out to the trendy places - making sure to announce it on facebook by "checking in" or staying in to watch Britain's got talent / xfactor / the voice and posting a running commentary on facebook / twitter.
oh, having an abundance of porn to suit all tastes on tap seems to effect the car scene as well!
Rich
I'm 22 and can tell you that's absolutely not what the yoof of today do lol.
apart from one person on my facebook who does updates to top gear, and one who is forever on their bloody phone. aside from that.. :) it's a method of keeping "connected"... plenty of meets, i go to a meet every week at least.. gone are the days of hanging around mcdonalds car parks for me really, rather go over to a friends house and chat about things that are more important to be honest.
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I guess times have changed nowadays- the "yoof" of today have so many other entertainment outlets. They roll out of bed and its straight onto facebook before checking which celeb tweeted what. Next, its onto instagram to see who took a selfie and where, before you know it, its lunch so that means posting it on twitter / facebook / snap chat for all to see.
Next, they fire up the PS3/PS4 and drive the best sports car in the world and can mod them to their hearts content. Once the racing is done, its either going out to the trendy places - making sure to announce it on facebook by "checking in" or staying in to watch Britain's got talent / xfactor / the voice and posting a running commentary on facebook / twitter.
oh, having an abundance of porn to suit all tastes on tap seems to effect the car scene as well!
Rich
just read this superb, so funny and so true
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Us 'yoofs' are pretty slobby nowadays lol!
Ahh I miss this forum, and my gti
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To me "modding" as such is a young persons game and nowadays youngsters can barely afford to insure any car let alone a performance vehicle that's been modified, if your paying up to £2-3k a year to insure a standard 1.2 Corsa what the hell is the premium going to be if you whack and exhaust or some fancy alloys on it? By the time you grow old enough to insure a performance car you're too old to be thinking about sticking spoilers on it and painting it bright green.
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Its alive and well in Coventry,every wednesday a group meet through rain and shine.
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Cars are too complicated to mod now due to all the computers and systems
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I guess times have changed nowadays- the "yoof" of today have so many other entertainment outlets. They roll out of bed and its straight onto facebook before checking which celeb tweeted what. Next, its onto instagram to see who took a selfie and where, before you know it, its lunch so that means posting it on twitter / facebook / snap chat for all to see.
Next, they fire up the PS3/PS4 and drive the best sports car in the world and can mod them to their hearts content. Once the racing is done, its either going out to the trendy places - making sure to announce it on facebook by "checking in" or staying in to watch Britain's got talent / xfactor / the voice and posting a running commentary on facebook / twitter.
oh, having an abundance of porn to suit all tastes on tap seems to effect the car scene as well!
Rich
just read this superb, so funny and so true
deffo this lol^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Back in my youth petrol was 69p a litre and £20 would of lasted a night out including a taxi home.
Used to "cruise" and commute all week for £20 of petrol in my 1.2 nova then go out on a sat night and still have more than half of my wages left to mod the car with cool add ons from either halfords or out the back of max power (only geeks had internet back then)
In Aberdeen most of the cruising happened on the beach boulevard and had done for decades, a heap of posh flats were built right in the middle of that area and although all of this cruising went on for decades people still bought the flats then complained about the noise :rolleye:
The police had a major crack down on the "cruisers" and killed the scene up here.
It probably still does go on up here but nowhere near what it was like back in my day.
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All the young lads at my work have nearly new cars. Bmws, Audi's galore, one of the 20 year olds has just bought a scirocco gt. All their money must go on having a nice flash car.
They all look upto my mk5 ed30 but I think my mk2 is better. They know nothing, those yoof's :signLOL:
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I think its due to the cost of running a car these days. Local meets here fall into two catagories.
- utter sh*tboxes driven by idiots.
- financed newer stuff (usually diesel) on air suspension and financed wheels.
I think this is why the 'stance' scene has exploded recently. Its (relatively) cheap to accomplish on any car. Air ride, bentley wheels and colour correction is enough to get you decent attention at a meet now.
I've progressed onto Pistonheads Sunday Service meets now, where we've all grown up and got proper toys lol.
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It's a reasonably healthy pastime here....there are a few young(early 20's ish) lads tooling qround in Corsa B's with loud exhausts and painted wheels,but I've also noticed a growing trend for older vehicles in the "retro-mod" style.
Theres a lad tooling around in a restored MK1 Chevette lowered on 14" banded steelies an running some form of carbs and cherry bomb type exhauxt...it reeks of cool.
Also seen a MK2 early GTI or lookalike thats been restored to original even down to teardrop slot wheels.I like! :happy2:
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I think its due to the cost of running a car these days. Local meets here fall into two catagories.
- utter sh*tboxes driven by idiots.
- financed newer stuff (usually diesel) on air suspension and financed wheels.
I think this is why the 'stance' scene has exploded recently. Its (relatively) cheap to accomplish on any car. Air ride, bentley wheels and colour correction is enough to get you decent attention at a meet now.
I've progressed onto Pistonheads Sunday Service meets now, where we've all grown up and got proper toys lol.
Who cares if stuff is financed
That's something I don't get at all?????? why the hate.
At Early Edition I met loads of people and everyone was spot on and I spent a lot of the day listening to people talk about their cars and how they've made them and their plans, it's great.
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I think its due to the cost of running a car these days. Local meets here fall into two catagories.
- utter sh*tboxes driven by idiots.
- financed newer stuff (usually diesel) on air suspension and financed wheels.
I think this is why the 'stance' scene has exploded recently. Its (relatively) cheap to accomplish on any car. Air ride, bentley wheels and colour correction is enough to get you decent attention at a meet now.
I've progressed onto Pistonheads Sunday Service meets now, where we've all grown up and got proper toys lol.
Who cares if stuff is financed
That's something I don't get at all?????? why the hate.
Cos he's a right sour buzz.
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- financed newer stuff (usually diesel) on air suspension and financed wheels.
How on earth do you draw the conclusion that there is 'hate' from the quote above? It is purely an observation/opinion.
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- financed newer stuff (usually diesel) on air suspension and financed wheels.
How on earth do you draw the conclusion that there is 'hate' from the quote above? It is purely an observation/opinion.
It's the general sense of the post... sh*t boxes with financed newer stuff and financed wheels (who finances wheels honestly lol).
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- financed newer stuff (usually diesel) on air suspension and financed wheels.
How on earth do you draw the conclusion that there is 'hate' from the quote above? It is purely an observation/opinion.
It's the general sense of the post... sh*t boxes with financed newer stuff and financed wheels (who finances wheels honestly lol).
Sounds like a massive chip to be fair. Must be on 15%+ apr.
My last focus was financed, I own the golf (and my lupo) outright. My point was is that theres very little in the middle. Due to the rising cost of motoring for young people they either get a really cheap run around, or a car they can afford the monthly payments on (again, due to cost, almost exclusively diesels). At the last meet i had to open my bonnet because the scene kiddies had never seen a petrol golf engine.
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:grin: :grin: oh my.
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why has this post turned out to be a bitchfest about who finances what,my opinion on stance is thats its just fashion,nothing to do with effing finance...
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I consider the change in society another factor. These days, a lot more kids stay in education till their early twenties than 8-10 years ago, also getting into huge debt and therefor not being able to have the modified car.
When I was growing up, the first Fast and Furious film was the strongest influence on modified car awareness, but later films took the focus away from the modification side of the cars, instead focusing on exotic cars.
Xjay's comment about meeting people at shows and the whole social media debate. I know of more modified cars now than I did when i began driving, and the availability of knowledge is literally mind blowing.
Nothing has changed, its simply evolved.
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that's exactly it ^^^^
but then you have people who make comments about "financed cars".
mine is not financed but so what if it was?
how many people actually buy cars completely outright, people wonder how people have porsches or range rovers, they're nearly always on a finance deal.
or that the yoof are killing everything!!!
the "yoof" have it harder than those in their late 30's & 40s (and older) have ever had it, trust me... try being a first time house buyer.
nearly all of my friends i have i met through social networking, mainly car forums, even those that live in the same town as me, i'd likely never have met them without the car "scene" so is it dying? absolutely not. if you think it is, maybe it's you that is dying.
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nearly all of my friends i have i met through social networking, mainly car forums, even those that live in the same town as me, i'd likely never have met them without the car "scene" so is it dying? absolutely not. if you think it is, maybe it's you that is dying.
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Easy there flower.... Maybe im dying? Harsh words for a late evening. I nearly spat my pipe out and choked on my boiled sweet reading this.
Awwww its cute that your motor has finally got you some friends. Quite surprising really with an attitude like that. Keep it up you might even bag yourself a 16year old Mrs on a cruizzzze or faceyb.
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Perhaps its not the scene getting smaller, but our worlds getting bigger. When I begun driving (and I'm sure most will relate), driving a few towns over to the local meet was a big thing in itself. As the years goby, we travel bigger and bigger distances, making what once was a seriously planned drive out of town now a normal everyday thing.
We see more big car shows and scenes from all over the globe, which gives the perspective that our local scenes are fading away. I thought my old Southend sea front cruising scene had died, but I recently discovered its moved to Lakeside. And there's a healthy number of V-dubs, as well as sister cars. And of course, boys in their little tin cans with tin can exhausts, revving but clinging nowhere...
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Astra Gte, Nova Gte/Gsi, 205Gti, cavalier turbo, Mk2 Gti, 5gtt glad I'm just old enough to have been in that era :driver:
The Astra's and Nova's were the cars to have when I was a youngster and there was also the Renault turbo (I think that was what it was called) that a couple of the local lads had. I had a MG Metro with go faster stripes and only 4 gears running leaded petrol lmao :laugh:
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Easy there flower.... Maybe im dying? Harsh words for a late evening. I nearly spat my pipe out and choked on my boiled sweet reading this.
Awwww its cute that your motor has finally got you some friends. Quite surprising really with an attitude like that. Keep it up you might even bag yourself a 16year old Mrs on a cruizzzze or faceyb.
Presume you mean crack pipe??
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Ohhh but of course. Gotta try out all the class a's n b's before i croak it after all.
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Anyways... Back to the topic. My unc had an SR nova, then an SRi then an XR2i with Tsw evo R's on. Lovely looking thing. Mate of mine used to have a fluorescent green XR4i. Horrible looking thing and spent most of its life going side ways. Remember driving about with my uncle and him playing hardcore packs from kinetic and fantazia or a recording of Stu Allen on key 103 (for the manchester lot)... CRAZY! :signLOL:
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Awwww its cute that your motor has finally got you some friends. Quite surprising really with an attitude like that. Keep it up you might even bag yourself a 16year old Mrs on a cruizzzze or faceyb.
i can only dream
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We can all dream. Least with Facebook we can check out if they are 16 before letting them get in our cars.