MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: lennard_D on April 16, 2014, 01:33:02 pm

Title: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: lennard_D on April 16, 2014, 01:33:02 pm
Hi guys

So looking to upgrade the stereo in my 56 plate Gti.

The main features I'm looking for are
•   Stock look that doesn’t attract attention
•   Great music quality
•   iPod/iPhone connectivity
•   Bluetooth which allows me to make calls but also stream say Spotify with excellent quality
•   Optional extras like DAB, satnav and ability to link reversing camera would be nice but not essential if they come at a premium

As I want something very OEM I think RCD510/RNS510 would be ideal but am concerned about how expensive they are. Even if I get one second-hand I think I need to pay extra for canbus, Ipod connector, Bluetooth etc.

The alternative I thought about was a simple Alpine WDE235BT which I think you can get for around £135. It seems to have all the features I need and looks quite stock though obviously not as perfect as RCD510/RNS510.

What do you guys think?

I read that Eddie NL is the man in the know and can fit things but I can't work out how to contact him. I'm still new to these parts!

Cheers
 
Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine WDE235BT
Post by: daedos on April 22, 2014, 07:25:02 pm
Alpine WDE235BT?  A google for that only brings up this page!  Sure that's the correct model number?

For a 'stock' look you probably want a double-din solution. The RCD/RNS costs do escalate, but apart from the canbus you can probably get it back if you take them off when you sell the car.
Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine cde W235BT
Post by: lennard_D on April 23, 2014, 08:42:34 am
Thanks mate. Yes I got it wrong!

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/featured-products/alpine-cde-w235bt

Do RCD/RNS add any value to your resale price? If I could get some money back then I might be more tempted. I suppose if sell separately as you suggest more likely to...
Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine W235BT
Post by: lennard_D on April 23, 2014, 08:53:20 am
Also do you have to pay extra to get bluetooth and ipod functionality with RCD/RNS units? How much does that set you back?!
Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine W235BT
Post by: daedos on April 23, 2014, 09:47:54 am
My rough calcs were:
RCD510 - £200
RNS510 - £300-400 (varies a lot depending on version)
Ipod MMI -£100
Bluetooth -£100
Canbus gateway - £70

All used prices. You may get some extra on resale, but probably not the full cost.  Hence splitting if that bothers you.

If going aftermarket I'd try and get a proper big screen double-din. Will look so much nicer.  I was quite impressed by a Parrot Mki9200 I had fitted to a previous car.
Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine W235BT
Post by: lennard_D on April 23, 2014, 02:04:20 pm
Thanks for that Daedos - really helpful. It’s outrageous that you have to pay so much for RCD510/RNS510 units but they don’t even come with Bluetooth/iPhone connectivity out of the box?! The cheap Alpine does all of that for £130!

Which double din would you recommend Daedos? This seems to offer a lot of functionality for reasonable price. http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-jvc-kw-av61bt_p-31188.htm

My main requirement is something which is not flashy, delivers great SQ via Bluetooth and iphone cable.

Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine W235BT
Post by: daedos on April 23, 2014, 03:48:16 pm
If you're not going OEM that's where my money would be. I have no experience of these units, just a VFM & looks thing.
Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine W235BT
Post by: J400uk on April 23, 2014, 07:08:07 pm
You can get the RCD 510 for well under £200. The non-RDS Chinese versions (still OEM VW) are only £100, and used UK versions can be had for as little as £150. Can Gateway shouldn't be more than about £85. You might be able to live without the MDI and just buy a large capacity SD card instead, like if you get a 16GB card for £8ish and copy all your music over from iTunes.

Its the best option IMO and smartens up the interior as well as increasing the cars appeal on the used market if its all genuine. An aftermarket head unit has the opposite effect.
Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine W235BT
Post by: lennard_D on April 24, 2014, 03:59:50 pm
I'm be toying with this ever since bough car but I think defo going the OEM route with either used RNS510 or RCD510. With the Bluetooth unit fitted are they good at streaming spotify from iphone?
Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: lennard_D on April 24, 2014, 04:26:25 pm
Hi guys so after getting feedback I think I'm going to go with used RCD/RNS510 unit.

Can someone tell me what is the part number I need for Bluetooth kit and for MDI kit? Are there different versions, in which case which are the latest?

Cheers
Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: lennard_D on April 25, 2014, 12:05:08 pm
Also I think I can only go down used route as tight budget.

What do I need to be aware of to ensure I get latest and genuine UK units?

Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: V2 FAN on April 25, 2014, 12:43:43 pm
Here's a good one in the for sale section.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,82648.0.html

I personally wouldn't purchase anything below a 'C' the one advertised above has the 4120 firmware which gives you Radio Text such as the name of the song currently playing etc.

The star button also indicates that it's a newer LED variant.


Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: lennard_D on April 25, 2014, 12:56:10 pm
Thanks mate. Very helpful information. I'm based in London otherwise would have snapped it up already! I've asked about postage. I guess it's always more comforting to pay cash on collection...

Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: V2 FAN on April 25, 2014, 01:02:58 pm
Thanks mate. Very helpful information. I'm based in London otherwise would have snapped it up already! I've asked about postage. I guess it's always more comforting to pay cash on collection...



Where in london?

The RNS510 is a brilliant piece of kit and perhaps one of the best first mods  :happy2:
Title: Re:
Post by: mdmay on April 25, 2014, 07:41:15 pm
I have a MDI kit and loom im looking to get shot of and I'm in London too pm if interested

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Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine W235BT
Post by: daedos on April 25, 2014, 10:51:03 pm
The non-RDS Chinese versions (still OEM VW) are only £100

Aside from the lack of RDS are there any other downsides to the Chinese RCD510s?  The built-in USB looks handy.
Title: Re: RCD510 v Alpine W235BT
Post by: J400uk on April 26, 2014, 12:47:36 am
The non-RDS Chinese versions (still OEM VW) are only £100

Aside from the lack of RDS are there any other downsides to the Chinese RCD510s?  The built-in USB looks handy.

Nope otherwise the same as the EU version, can't argue with them for value for money. Nice thread about them here - http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=393452
Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: lennard_D on April 26, 2014, 04:31:43 pm
Thanks Mike but will need to get head unit first before getting Mdi.

I keep deliberating over this upgrade. I was all set with RCD/RNS510 but now worried about it getting nicked (car lives on street not garage) so wonder if aftermarket with detachable faceplate is way to go?

Any thoughts on security?

Cheers
Title: Re:
Post by: mdmay on April 26, 2014, 05:01:46 pm
I live in wanstead and have a kenwood dnx520vbt fitted to mine and that lives om the street

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Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: V2 FAN on April 26, 2014, 05:06:22 pm
Thanks Mike but will need to get head unit first before getting Mdi.

I keep deliberating over this upgrade. I was all set with RCD/RNS510 but now worried about it getting nicked (car lives on street not garage) so wonder if aftermarket with detachable faceplate is way to go?

Any thoughts on security?

Cheers

It's a shame that thieves can spoil your wish list but I totally understand. How about this option ?
I have no experience of this and I simply stumbled upon this on my own journey of trying to defeat the opportunist.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/95588/volkswagen-navi-lock-to-protect-against-sat-nav-theft/

I would also remove the serial number sticker from the unit as the unit can be unlocked easily via ebay with the serial number  :happy2:
Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: lennard_D on April 26, 2014, 05:13:06 pm
Yeah maybe I'm being paranoid but then again some tw@t reversed into my car while parked and caused ALOT of damage.

How much roughly would RNS510 with VW Bluetooth kit add to resale price of 56 plate golf?

Also I'm guessing I would see anything near £400 to fit highline on resale?

Perhaps compromise is to hold out for secondhand RCD510...
Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: lennard_D on April 26, 2014, 05:18:10 pm
Thanks V2 Fan. Yeah that looks heavy duty and would do the job! But I think maybe I'll go secondhand RCD route.

Good tip re sticker.

It is crap that the worry of thieving scum is affecting my decision making...
Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: skard on April 26, 2014, 05:37:49 pm
If buying an RCD510 through the post be very careful - I sold one on here and sent it with the CD changer transit lock on, when it got there (extremely well packed) the changer was gubbed.
So just keep that in mind and try collect it if you can.
Title: Re: RCD510/RNS510 - Bluetooth/MDI
Post by: lennard_D on April 26, 2014, 11:22:48 pm
Thanks mate. Yeah I would definitely like to buy local and see it working before handing over the cash. Guess this takes patience but not one of my virtues!