MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: Orc on April 17, 2014, 07:28:06 pm
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So I've had the rns510 in my edition for over a year now and it has old software on it. However it always worked with the nav just in the mornings it was stuck in Budapest until it picked up satellites. Now it's stick there permanently, also when I put in my sd card it doesn't load anymore and also the cd drive never played nor does. Do I just need latest software if so where to buy it from??
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Hi mate
What version is your unit as this will depend on what version of firmware you update to.
I have 4120 on my C version.
As for your Nav could be your gps antenna.
Not sure how you can update if your CD drive don't work? Have you tried a reboot?
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DVD drive and card reader not working could be either the drives fecked, ribbon/power cables broken or disconnected, or perhaps the boards gone. I doubt it's going to be a firmware issue really, sounds more like hardware faults. Failing to pick up satellites could also be related.
If you start the unit up and press the "Navigation" button, then touch "Current position" on the touch screen it should tell you how many satellites the unit can see, and also how many it's locked onto. So currently mine says "Satellites 4/10" meaning it can see 10 satellites and has locked onto 4 of them.
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Hi mate
What version is your unit as this will depend on what version of firmware you update to.
I have 4120 on my C version.
As for your Nav could be your gps antenna.
Not sure how you can update if your CD drive don't work? Have you tried a reboot?
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The sw version you mean?
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DVD drive and card reader not working could be either the drives fecked, ribbon/power cables broken or disconnected, or perhaps the boards gone. I doubt it's going to be a firmware issue really, sounds more like hardware faults. Failing to pick up satellites could also be related.
If you start the unit up and press the "Navigation" button, then touch "Current position" on the touch screen it should tell you how many satellites the unit can see, and also how many it's locked onto. So currently mine says "Satellites 4/10" meaning it can see 10 satellites and has locked onto 4 of them.
I've done a reset and I'll check after breakie however it's strange with the nav as if I punch in a destination it will work on voice control and my highline display and even when I press for the smaller screen but yet the large normal screen is still stuck in Budapest. I'll pull it out in a bit as at work we have nav faults on where the antenna is stuck so I'll check it as it's been like this since I've had it. As for the reader the cd just spits back out and says error and the HDR sees the card but when a cards in it says loading but in media never highlights the sdcard button so I can play directly from it.
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When you pull the unit out, look on the label on the top and it should give you the model revision of the unit. Something like 1T0 035 680 C, and the letter at the end is the important bit. That will give you an idea of what firmware you can upgrade to. Also, if you have the developer menu activated (press and hold "Setup" until it cycles through to the third window of options) you can see what firmware you already have on there. It will also give you a part number such as above, but if you've had a firmware upgrade in the past this will probably be incorrect so ignore that and only use the label for the part number. If you don't have the developer menu activated you can do this with VCDS.
If you're close to North Yorks I can help you out with this if you want to stop round.
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I do have the developer menu and that is actually my part number you have quoted it also states sw version 2760 so I don't know if it's the latest or not for my unit?
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You can update to 4120 fairly safely. There's some scary stuff can happen if you fail at doing a firmware update, but there's also a SWL fix cd available on the net which can repair some faults with existing firmware. I'd be tempted to run that first before trying an update, see if you can get the unit back to full functionality.
Having said that, you're kinda stuck that the dvd drive doesn't seem to work, although it might work with a data disc such as I've mentioned. Worth trying before you get too involved with trying to repair it. If it's the main board that's gone then the whole thing is pretty much scrap I'm afraid, although there'll be some value as spares.
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Cheers dude for thAt I know about updates ect and v9 v10 maps I've seen but I don't know where to get any of these updates from?
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Have you checked the sticky post at the top of this forum section? :happy2:
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Also, what does your unit say about finding and locking on to satellites?
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It says 3/8 I take it that's poor?
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Well, it's seeing satellites and locking on to them, so it's a good start. Nothing much wrong with the gps antenna in your case I don't think. Must be something to do with the maps or the processing of the data.
Unfortunately, I think you're going to have to get the dvd drive working to go any further yourself with this (unless the SWL recovery disc will somehow work). That'd be my next move, download the SWL disc and see if the unit will accept that.
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How do I do that or do I buy this disc??
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At the top of this section there's a sticky thread which has links to many different firmware variations, and also to the SWL cd I referred to. Download the disc and burn it to cd, and then see if you can get the machine to load it up and fix the issues.
Edit: This is the location of the SWL fix data file. Link. (http://dfiles.eu/files/baen7tr7p)
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Well I'll be damned! Being a tech I thought I would go and pull the rns out and check it over as to be honest it was fitted when I brought the car and something's just never added up. For starters as I pull it out I heard a rattle and what do I find once I strip the top of the casing off.....3 10p pieces so there's my cd error and sd error fixed. Now for the antenna I followed the wire to find it hiding in the drivers side curtain airbag and the pillar, pulled it all out and placed it in the correct position turned her on and wow chalk and cheese 7/7 satellites and cd and as is working. I did find however a plug not used in the back of the stereo and my mic which I thought might be hooked up to a Bluetooth module just floating around. Now how do I get the connectivity working between my phone and the unit as all my mfsw works with it already. ??
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The connector I don't know what it does is the quad lock connector, I have 2 singles in the same loom coming out but only one fits in the stereo were it was where I pulled it out originally, the ones white which fits into the left hand connector but the other is brown however the plug is all wrong so won't slot in any ideas??
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Can you take a picture of the rear and all the connections? I'm having trouble understanding what you've got.
However, it does sound like you're heading in the right direction.
Have you actually got a bluetooth module installed in the car?
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Ok it's not the quad connection I mean. You know the gps antenna? The blue one is connecting which is fine but you have 2 white outputs next to it on the stereo, well I've got 2 single leads one is white and it is plugged into the one side but the other is brown and the connector doesn't line up? It was plugged in when I pulled it all out but it would be nice to know what it is. ??
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There are two white connectors side by side, and the blue connector next to them. The blue is the GPS antenna (as you know) and the white connectors are mated to a single connector with two leads coming out of it on the factory install. So you have a twin and a single antenna connection in reality. The blue one is all okay, and the white one has only a single connector going to one side, and you have a spare brown wire, yes?
I don't have this brown wire on my Jetta, but I've a feeling you might have to buy an adaptor to get it to connect on to the head unit. Obviously the RNS510 has been retrofitted, and someone "forgot" to do it properly. Mine was factory fitted so it's done proper like.
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Done a bit of googling and this popped up.
Link. (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18820.0) :happy2:
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Your right and thanks so much for the info dude muchlio appreciate, however what is the other side supposed to do? As everything on the unit seems to work now? Do I actually need to buy a cable? Also where would the Bluetooth module be fitted if mine had one but never set up etc?
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Just seen the pic at the bottom of that link that's exactly what I have the stereo end the single brown and white do you think that the other end what it's plugged into is connected the wrong way round? As in my cable is backwards? As googling some pics the double white end is in the back of the rns in every pic I have seen
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The rear of the RNS has a twin socket male fakra connection. The aerial should have a twin socket female fakra connector to clip onto it. If you have two wires each with a single connector on then you either need to buy an adaptor to connect them to the RNS, or as the link suggests just split them out of the plastic connector and they should push into the RNS. Although there's a chance that if they just push in then they could just as easy pull out again. The stock connectors lock on.
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Yeah I know what I mean is though what happens is whoever fitted this got that cable the wrong way round?? As in the twin is fitted to whatever module it goes too and now the other end only one of the connectors is fitted which it is and the brown is doing nothing, however I can't see what it does do as everything on the unit works. ??ill go take a look see if I can find the module
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Those two wires are both aerial wires mate. They should both be connected to the head unit, and they both run off to the aerial.
One might be FM and one AM, or they might both be FM and provide better signal.