MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: t20lau on October 14, 2009, 04:36:46 pm
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So are there any reccomended tuners in the area?!
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So are there any recommended tuners in the area?!
JBS Auto designs http://www.jbsautodesigns.co.uk/
Straddlers http://www.statller.com/
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So are there any recommended tuners in the area?!
JBS Auto designs http://www.jbsautodesigns.co.uk/
Straddlers http://www.statller.com/
:happy2:
Nicely...
You tried either?!
Tom
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Ive used JBS for a few years now, cant complain of the service they provide at all. If its a map your after they use Custom Code which I have on my ED30 and is amazing :laugh:
Im yet to visit Straddlers but Ive heard very good things about them. They use GIAC software which has been proven to be very good also.
They both do full upgrades such as suspension & engine upgrades, exhausts & software etc.
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Ive used JBS for a few years now, cant complain of the service they provide at all. If its a map your after they use Custom Code which I have on my ED30 and is amazing :laugh:
Im yet to visit Straddlers but Ive heard very good things about them. They use GIAC software which has been proven to be very good also.
They both do full upgrades such as suspension & engine upgrades, exhausts & software etc.
Thanks for the info matey...
Any chance you could briefly list your mods, which has taken you to Stage 2+?!
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I've used Statllers and JBS extensively and both are excellent tuners.
JBS have a TFSI Leon as a demo/test car. They develop their own maps and they are very smooth and progressive. Until recently I had Custom Code on my car and it was very smooth, but ultimately didn't give the outright power I craved :laugh:
Statllers have 2 ED30's as demo/test cars - one manual and 1 DSG. GIAC use them for testing their beta maps, so they are very experienced with the K04 limitations. I'm currently running GIAC on my DSG box, which is a must if you have DSG.
In Sheffield Swifts are the registered Superchips/Bluefin dealers and I've used these in the past too. Very well established, but deal in all sorts of motors and not specific to VAG....still decent though.
HTH. :smiley:
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I've used Statllers and JBS extensively and both are excellent tuners.
JBS have a TFSI Leon as a demo/test car. They develop their own maps and they are very smooth and progressive. Until recently I had Custom Code on my car and it was very smooth, but ultimately didn't give the outright power I craved :laugh:
Statllers have 2 ED30's as demo/test cars - one manual and 1 DSG. GIAC use them for testing their beta maps, so they are very experienced with the K04 limitations. I'm currently running GIAC on my DSG box, which is a must if you have DSG.
In Sheffield Swifts are the registered Superchips/Bluefin dealers and I've used these in the past too. Very well established, but deal in all sorts of motors and not specific to VAG....still decent though.
HTH. :smiley:
Hey thanks for the info...
I'll more than likely be in touch with Statllers at some point then, as I live / work 10mins aways ;)
The GIAC map you are running at the moment, what hardware are you running it with?!
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I run GIAC also. Steve Jnr at Stattlers knows his stuff - highly recommended.
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My Giac map is only for the DSG box.
The Engine map is Revo stage 2+.
Currently I'm running...
Evoms intake
Autotech HPFP
Forge Twintercooler
Forge DV
Milltek Turbo back exhaust.
Brakes are TAROX 10 pots up front and S3 full rears.
Suspension..
Whiteline anti-lift kit
APR torque arm insert
Autotech lightweight front and rear ARB's
Bilstein B16 PSS10 coilovers
Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2's.
I've also got VF engine mounts going on and still considering the BSH catch can I've just bought. :smiley:
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My Giac map is only for the DSG box.
The Engine map is Revo stage 2+.
Currently I'm running...
Evoms intake
Autotech HPFP
Forge Twintercooler
Forge DV
Milltek Turbo back exhaust.
Brakes are TAROX 10 pots up front and S3 full rears.
Suspension..
Whiteline anti-lift kit
APR torque arm insert
Autotech lightweight front and rear ARB's
Bilstein B16 PSS10 coilovers
Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2's.
I've also got VF engine mounts going on and still considering the BSH catch can I've just bought. :smiley:
Hmm...
How much is this GIAC Map for the DSG?! Didnt realise theres was a map for the DSG and a Map for the ECU!
What does the GIAC DSG Map do for the car then?!
Does the HPFP really help then? What is it really used for?! Does it hold any disadvantages over the OEM? Just sounds to me like its going to make the car drink more fuel :signLOL:
TD ProRace 1.2s? Nice :notworthy: I'm thinking about getting some...
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Questions questions. i can help with the HPFP one. Basically when tuned the map will be asking for more fuel than your standard o/e pump can deliver - by uprating its output you won,t suffer from any misfires or poor fuelling midrange/top end.
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Questions questions. i can help with the HPFP one. Basically when tuned the map will be asking for more fuel than your standard o/e pump can deliver - by uprating its output you won,t suffer from any misfires or poor fuelling midrange/top end.
So you want see any difference in Fuel Consumption UNLESS your ragging it about?!
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Questions questions. i can help with the HPFP one. Basically when tuned the map will be asking for more fuel than your standard o/e pump can deliver - by uprating its output you won,t suffer from any misfires or poor fuelling midrange/top end.
So you want see any difference in Fuel Consumption UNLESS your ragging it about?!
Basically yes.
On the trip over to the 'ring two weeks ago, my car did 330miles on a tank whilst driving at 90-120mph!
On the way back in the UK the car did 380 miles on a tank at a steady mph.
At the ring, when I was fully on it a refill to the brim indicated 115miles left to empty from full :surprised: :evilgrin:
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Questions questions. i can help with the HPFP one. Basically when tuned the map will be asking for more fuel than your standard o/e pump can deliver - by uprating its output you won,t suffer from any misfires or poor fuelling midrange/top end.
So you want see any difference in Fuel Consumption UNLESS your ragging it about?!
Beat me to it Hurdy.As said, i would say it will be exactly the same if your driving normally. My K1 still returns over 30mpg just kicking about town.
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Hmm...
How much is this GIAC Map for the DSG?! Didnt realise theres was a map for the DSG and a Map for the ECU!
What does the GIAC DSG Map do for the car then?!
The GIAC DSG map increases the redline in sport and manual to 7250rpm from 6400rpm to take advantage of the K04's higher peak power (assuming your engine remap allows more than 7250rpm redline!)
The gearchanges are up to 60% faster. (I've also found them to be smoother)
The rating of the torque handling for the gearbox goes up to 500nm due to increasing the oil pressure which increases the clutch clamping power. Which is a good thing for me as I'm currently spiking at 380lbft (515nm)
The Launch control is altered to allow you to launch up to 3700rpm.
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Questions questions. i can help with the HPFP one. Basically when tuned the map will be asking for more fuel than your standard o/e pump can deliver - by uprating its output you won,t suffer from any misfires or poor fuelling midrange/top end.
So you want see any difference in Fuel Consumption UNLESS your ragging it about?!
Beat me to it Hurdy.As said, i would say it will be exactly the same if your driving normally. My K1 still returns over 30mpg just kicking about town.
Hmm...Will have to look more into this! Sounds like a good purchase!
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Hmm...
How much is this GIAC Map for the DSG?! Didnt realise theres was a map for the DSG and a Map for the ECU!
What does the GIAC DSG Map do for the car then?!
The GIAC DSG map increases the redline in sport and manual to 7250rpm from 6400rpm to take advantage of the K04's higher peak power (assuming your engine remap allows more than 7250rpm redline!)
The gearchanges are up to 60% faster. (I've also found them to be smoother)
The rating of the torque handling for the gearbox goes up to 500nm due to increasing the oil pressure which increases the clutch clamping power. Which is a good thing for me as I'm currently spiking at 380lbft (515nm)
The Launch control is altered to allow you to launch up to 3700rpm.
Very impressive stuff -i wish i had DSG option
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You can only really take advantage of the HPFP if you have a stage 2+ remap, for which you will also need an intake and a full exhaust system :happy2:
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Hmm...
How much is this GIAC Map for the DSG?! Didnt realise theres was a map for the DSG and a Map for the ECU!
What does the GIAC DSG Map do for the car then?!
Blade, it really does transform the car :happy2:
The GIAC DSG map increases the redline in sport and manual to 7250rpm from 6400rpm to take advantage of the K04's higher peak power (assuming your engine remap allows more than 7250rpm redline!)
The gearchanges are up to 60% faster. (I've also found them to be smoother)
The rating of the torque handling for the gearbox goes up to 500nm due to increasing the oil pressure which increases the clutch clamping power. Which is a good thing for me as I'm currently spiking at 380lbft (515nm)
The Launch control is altered to allow you to launch up to 3700rpm.
Very impressive stuff -i wish i had DSG option
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Hmm...
How much is this GIAC Map for the DSG?! Didnt realise theres was a map for the DSG and a Map for the ECU!
What does the GIAC DSG Map do for the car then?!
The GIAC DSG map increases the redline in sport and manual to 7250rpm from 6400rpm to take advantage of the K04's higher peak power (assuming your engine remap allows more than 7250rpm redline!)
The gearchanges are up to 60% faster. (I've also found them to be smoother)
The rating of the torque handling for the gearbox goes up to 500nm due to increasing the oil pressure which increases the clutch clamping power. Which is a good thing for me as I'm currently spiking at 380lbft (515nm)
The Launch control is altered to allow you to launch up to 3700rpm.
OMFG...
Sounds like a MUST :signLOL: Like the fast it increases the RPM limit, but just wondering, if it increases to 7250, why would you require a ecu map to allow for more than that?!
Does this Map cost as much as the ECU map?!
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You can only really take advantage of the HPFP if you have a stage 2+ remap, for which you will also need an intake and a full exhaust system :happy2:
icic...So Basically Stage 2 Cars would have no requirement for the HPFP?!
BTW...THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO MATEY! YOUR HELPING LOADS!!!
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Stage 2 cars get by with just the zorst and intake, however for the little extra (less than £300) that the HPFP can cost, you'll see a much meatier mid rev range and a stronger top end. Some Stage 2 cars can run lean without the HPFP which (as Blade has said) can lead to a less than smooth ride. The maps a definitively different between stage 2 and stage 2+. :happy2:
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Stage 2 cars get by with just the zorst and intake, however for the little extra (less than £300) that the HPFP can cost, you'll see a much meatier mid rev range and a stronger top end. Some Stage 2 cars can run lean without the HPFP which (as Blade has said) can lead to a less than smooth ride. The maps a definitively different between stage 2 and stage 2+. :happy2:
Does the HPFP not cost about £500-600?!
Also, then you'd have to pay for a remap too...so your talking around the £1k mark surely...
Does the DSG Map cost as much as the ECU map?! Would you recommend this to any stage of car?! As long as the Rev Limiter is moved from 6500 to 7250?!
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Stage 2 cars get by with just the zorst and intake, however for the little extra (less than £300) that the HPFP can cost, you'll see a much meatier mid rev range and a stronger top end. Some Stage 2 cars can run lean without the HPFP which (as Blade has said) can lead to a less than smooth ride. The maps a definitively different between stage 2 and stage 2+. :happy2:
Does the HPFP not cost about £500-600?!
Also, then you'd have to pay for a remap too...so your talking around the £1k mark surely...
Does the DSG Map cost as much as the ECU map?! Would you recommend this to any stage of car?! As long as the Rev Limiter is moved from 6500 to 7250?!
Statllers would fit you the Autotech HPFP for around £300. Yes, you'll need a map, but most tuners only usually charge about £50 for upgrades from stage 1 -2 - 2+.
You can run the HPFP on stage 2, but you'll not see much benefit from it.
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Stage 2 cars get by with just the zorst and intake, however for the little extra (less than £300) that the HPFP can cost, you'll see a much meatier mid rev range and a stronger top end. Some Stage 2 cars can run lean without the HPFP which (as Blade has said) can lead to a less than smooth ride. The maps a definitively different between stage 2 and stage 2+. :happy2:
Does the HPFP not cost about £500-600?!
Also, then you'd have to pay for a remap too...so your talking around the £1k mark surely...
Does the DSG Map cost as much as the ECU map?! Would you recommend this to any stage of car?! As long as the Rev Limiter is moved from 6500 to 7250?!
Statllers would fit you the Autotech HPFP for around £300. Yes, you'll need a map, but most tuners only usually charge about £50 for upgrades from stage 1 -2 - 2+.
You can run the HPFP on stage 2, but you'll not see much benefit from it.
oooo...I'll have to look into that then ;)
So unless I go with Stage 2+ dont go for the HPFP...Thanks Man, Helps alot, now I know not to waste money on it unless I got for the Stage 2+ Map...
So how about this DSG Map?! Does the DSG Map cost as much as the ECU map?! Would you recommend this to any stage of car?! As long as the Rev Limiter is moved from 6500 to 7250?!
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The DSG map is worthwhile at any stage....even stock.
You'll not see any benefit from the extended rev range as stock, because the engine rev limiter will be set lower than 7,250rpm anyway, but you will see an advantage in how much smoother the car feels and the extra urge in the gearchanges. If anything I'd have even considered it before the Engine map. The two maps for the engine and DSG are totally separate and so you can have any engine map(APR, CC, REVO, GIAC) with the DSG map.
Again Statllers do this map for under £400.
I'm beginning to sound like a Statllers promotional vid :ashamed:
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The DSG map is worthwhile at any stage....even stock.
You'll not see any benefit from the extended rev range as stock, because the engine rev limiter will be set lower than 7,250rpm anyway, but you will see an advantage in how much smoother the car feels and the extra urge in the gearchanges. If anything I'd have even considered it before the Engine map. The two maps for the engine and DSG are totally separate and so you can have any engine map(APR, CC, REVO, GIAC) with the DSG map.
Again Statllers do this map for under £400.
I'm beginning to sound like a Statllers promotional vid :ashamed:
Dont worry man, I know you work for them really hahaha!
Without revealing too much I'll be in a Stage 2 Edition 30 so looks like I'll be getting my wallet out for this DSG Map too...
My missus is going to :fighting: me