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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Bazgti on April 22, 2014, 08:57:25 am
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This is surely going to cause mass debate so i thought id start the topic 1st.....
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As a Liverpool fan gutted.
But he had to go... why on Earth would SAF pick him, never won a trophy, has no real charisma about him.
United will be better next season but with no European football might struggle to get their top, top targets. Still, as we have found this season with no games in mid week a well organised squad can push into top four anyway as so freash and long time to prepare for games.
Van Gaal or Klopp?
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I reckon most of the footballing country will be!
To be fair, If you had to pick a carbon copy of fergie, itd be Moyes. Unfortunately for Moyes nobody out of this country will have heard of him so when your trying to attract the biggest names in the game it was never going to happen. I actually quite liked him and i wanted him to succeed but realistically he was never going to make it after sir alex. Utd needed a big name like van gaal, pep or klopp like you said.
At least RVP and Welbeck will be staying now so not all bad news.
Just hope they get it sorted asap we ned some new faces in the team. It upsets me greatly seeing liverpool at the top! :P
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Seriously thought he would have been given more time. United fans seem to forget that Fergie nearly got the boot a year or two into his Man U career. Not sure who will end up there as long as they don't poach Sir Nigel Clough from us :signLOL:
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It was always goin to happen.. His biggest mistake was sacking all the back room staff and bringing in his own, he should've left it for a season then started making changes gradually.
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It was always goin to happen.. His biggest mistake was sacking all the back room staff and bringing in his own, he should've left it for a season then started making changes gradually.
I was going to say exactly this ^^^^^^
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I am quite happy the scousers are at the top, at least it's not the Chelski and Citeh :grin:
City - From a Treble to a Double to NOWT! :grin: :grin:
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I am quite happy the scousers are at the top, at least it's not the Chelski and Citeh :grin:
City - From a Treble to a Double to NOWT! :grin: :grin:
As utd fan id rather city win it... :sick: :sick: :sick:
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One more team playing well makes for a better league, As a 36 year united fan I have no issues with the pool winning it once in 20 years :grin:
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It was always goin to happen.. His biggest mistake was sacking all the back room staff and bringing in his own, he should've left it for a season then started making changes gradually.
I was going to say exactly this ^^^^^^
Sacking Rene Meulensteen was his initial down fall. Hes been the back bone of Utd's recent successes. Its been said that coaching wise that it was him and mike phelan running the club for years under the fergie era.
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The guy wasn't good enough! His favourite words were 'try' & 'hope'. It's MAN UTD for F###S SAKE. Too negative & he inherited champions, not like sir Alex. Glad he's gone :jumpmove:
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As a united fan bring back fergie but in reality step up keane!!
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One more team playing well makes for a better league, As a 36 year united fan I have no issues with the pool winning it once in 20 years :grin:
Yeah come one give us a chance to get to 19, you will still be one in front :sick:
I dont think we will take maximum points from last 3 games, think we will drop against either Chelsea or Palace but I think we will still do it as can see City dropping points at Everton or Palace possibly.
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As a united fan bring back fergie but in reality step up keane!!
More chance of platting p1ss. Hes as un proven as Moyes was. We need a big name and a big reputation. Keane by all accounts is a moody c0ck!
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Liverpool will finally be on the same number of premier league titles as Blackburn :signLOL:
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It wasn't getting any better, that was Moyes' problem. I think the board had to, you can forgive a team for losing and trying to play football but they put in a lot of poor performances this season particularity against rivals like City and Liverpool who in the past despite not being at the same level as Man Utd would at least show desire.
I don't think many would have expected Utd to win the league this year but a CL spot would have been acceptable given the changes. The players need to step up to the plate for the last few games and prove that they are not part of the problem. Perhaps Moyes should have joined while Fergie was still in charge...
10 Moyes mistakes, according to the Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10778134/10-mistakes-that-have-caused-David-Moyess-downfall-at-Manchester-United.html
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As a Gooner, i can only :grin: and :laugh: and :P and :booty: well you get the idea :signLOL:
United need an entire overhaul. iirc Vidic gone, Evra wants out, Rafael not goo enough, Ferdinand is getting on. Smalling and Jones need more time and I believe they will both be solid centre backs if time allows.
The midfield is a bloody shambles with the exception of Mata.
Rooney kicked up again and got a lovely new contract, RVP can't stand Moyes and wants out, Wellbeck said he wants to leave along with Hernandez.
The whole teams needs sorting, every bloody position.
I can't see United challenging next season either.
They will be the Liverpool of Old :grin:
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Wouldn't be surprised if Wenger or Pellegrini depart at the end of the season pending results.
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They'll give the Managers job to Giggs in partnership with Beckham .
Thats my prediction for the day
Next :wink:
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Wouldn't be surprised if Wenger or Pellegrini depart at the end of the season pending results.
Can't see Wenger going if we maintain the 4th spot TBH.
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Think MU finished about 10th/11th in the first season under SAF...
See how Giggs gets on with the remaining games. :popcornsoda:
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They'll give the Managers job to Giggs in partnership with Beckham .
Thats my prediction for the day
Next :wink:
If that happens il run through my town butt necked :booty: with my Miltek hanging out my arse and a VW badge stapled to my head :signLOL:
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They'll give the Managers job to Giggs in partnership with Beckham .
Thats my prediction for the day
Next :wink:
If that happens il run through my town butt necked :booty: with my Miltek hanging out my arse and a VW badge stapled to my head :signLOL:
Quoted..... just incase :wink:
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Why do you think fergie left when he did? Aging team going downhill since ronaldo left, lack of investment,(not the same quality of players coming through the youth system), they have only won the league recently because of some of the sh*t teams that play in this overhyped league.
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Why do you think fergie left when he did? Aging team going downhill since ronaldo left, lack of investment,(not the same quality of players coming through the youth system), they have only won the league recently because of some of the sh*t teams that play in this overhyped league.
I absolutly disagree with that. If the league was so bad then surely it would have been anyones to win? Aging yes, but isnt chelsea's? Lamps, terry, cole, eto, etc etc. But as fergie did, mourinho manages to get the best out of them. Hence their league position. Simple fact of the matter is Moyes wasnt a big enough name to command the respect of the dressing room and the fans for that matter. We just need to get van gaal boxed off before the world cup n then the tossers upstairs can buy the players fergie wanted 12months ago.
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just need to look at most leagues in europe to see real football
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I kinda feel sorry for him. It was always going to be hard following in Fergies foot steps, but the fact that he had the same squad that Fergie won the title with and the addition of Fellaini and Mata, he should have done better
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Why do you think fergie left when he did? Aging team going downhill since ronaldo left, lack of investment,(not the same quality of players coming through the youth system), they have only won the league recently because of some of the sh*t teams that play in this overhyped league.
I absolutly disagree with that. If the league was so bad then surely it would have been anyones to win? Aging yes, but isnt chelsea's? Lamps, terry, cole, eto, etc etc.
Aye, but they also bought willian, schurrle, hazard, oscar, azplicueta etc etc
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Why do you think fergie left when he did? Aging team going downhill since ronaldo left, lack of investment,(not the same quality of players coming through the youth system), they have only won the league recently because of some of the sh*t teams that play in this overhyped league.
I absolutly disagree with that. If the league was so bad then surely it would have been anyones to win? Aging yes, but isnt chelsea's? Lamps, terry, cole, eto, etc etc.
Pffft... Who are they? We got felaini! Nuff said! :signLOL:
Aye, but they also bought willian, schurrle, hazard, oscar, azplicueta etc etc
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I wouldn't mind being sacked for under performance and then being in line for 10 million quid payout (daily mail amount of money quoted mind you :wink:)
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Wouldn't be surprised if Wenger or Pellegrini depart at the end of the season pending results.
Can't see Wenger going if we maintain the 4th spot TBH.
4th place at Arsenal is seen as a successfull season though :signLOL:
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Guillem Balague thinks Van Gaal will be the best fit for United, that bloke usually talks sense and would agree that him or Klopp would be best for going forward.
Whoever gets the job can start to build a team with the £200m transfer kitty.
Left back
Right Back
Centre Back
Defensive midfielder
Attacking Midfielder
£200m Should be about right to sort that out!
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Wouldn't be surprised if Wenger or Pellegrini depart at the end of the season pending results.
Can't see Wenger going if we maintain the 4th spot TBH.
4th place at Arsenal is seen as a successfull season though :signLOL:
A successful season is finishing above Tottenham. :innocent:
Don't think we're that far off the pace. Defo need a few more able bodies. 2 or 3 quality players would put things right.
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Guillem Balague thinks Van Gaal will be the best fit for United, that bloke usually talks sense and would agree that him or Klopp would be best for going forward.
Whoever gets the job can start to build a team with the £200m transfer kitty.
Left back
Right Back
Centre Back
Defensive midfielder
Attacking Midfielder
£200m Should be about right to sort that out!
They've got mata :stupid:
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As good a player as he is, i dont think he is the right player for us. Rooney, RVP, Mata n Kagawa sounds pretty formidable on paper but theyll never work in the same team.
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All them years of man utd saying " we don't sack our managers " yeah that's easy to say when you were successful but the minute sh*t didn't go there way bang they sack him, they called every other club down the years when they sacked their managers and they thought they were better than any other club, this just shows they no better than anyone.
Man utd 'fans' and I use the word fans very VERY lightly think they have a god given right to be at the top hahaha get used to it boys no CL for years in my books the competition is much stronger now with the likes of Liverpool etc and IMHO ferguson knew this and left to preserve his status.
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Guillem Balague thinks Van Gaal will be the best fit for United, that bloke usually talks sense and would agree that him or Klopp would be best for going forward.
That continues to fu** me off a little - the automatic premonition that these top, young, European managers are going to want to leave their high flying domestic leagues for Manchester United in a flash.
You have to firstly analyse;
- Who would WANT to work with the Glazers, a group that continues to have a questionable and relatively unknown passion of interest in the Premier League and also who looks set to give their new managers around 10 months to acquire trophies?
- One of the main reasons anything previously went to United was because of the facilities/setup, history and SAF. One of those key factors has gone, so Utd aren't the most appealing destination for players/coaches/officials anymore, whatsoever.
- Who wants to inherit that squad, the transfer funds aside? It was widely agreed by the football world a desperately overachieving squad for 2/3 seasons, one which was clearly superbly motivated and coached by SAF and team. There are no stars really left, Mata/De Gea aside.
RVP is very likely to go and Rooney is in the departure lounge of his career even at £300k a week.
- Why would or will a Jurgen Klopp leave what is a fantastic feeder club at Dortmund where he's likely to be on a superb package, with a more or less guaranteed Champions League finish season in, season out in the Bundesliga? They've been known recently to shock Bayern in cups and the league to silverware, not forgetting. Today's Man United is unlikely to offer that sort of challenge/silverware on a plate. United will be a hard slog for the top four even if they invest and the chances are, that manager has one to two season maximum to perform, as you're ultimately STILL replacing the irreplaceable. The Moyes stint will be forgotten given the track record of whoever comes in next and the pressure HUGE once again, with months to turn it into a performing & motivated squad.
I nearly fell about laughing when a friend said "the only one the fans will really be satisfied with is Pep Guadiola".
Better organise his plane to Manchester this minute then cause I'm sure he can't wait to leave Bayern :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh:
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All them years of man utd saying " we don't sack our managers " yeah that's easy to say when you were successful but the minute sh*t didn't go there way bang they sack him, they called every other club down the years when they sacked their managers and they thought they were better than any other club, this just shows they no better than anyone.
Man utd 'fans' and I use the word fans very VERY lightly think they have a god given right to be at the top hahaha get used to it boys no CL for years in my books the competition is much stronger now with the likes of Liverpool etc and IMHO ferguson knew this and left to preserve his status.
A bit bitter towards Utd's past success?
All these clubs are are working to protect/improve revenue streams. MUFC has higher expectations than most other clubs in the PL, it would be the same at the other 'big' clubs too.
The succession of Ferguson hasn't been handled smoothly but this isn't the first time Ferguson has announced he would finish,who knows how much notice the board was given. He was 71 as well...
Competition is as tough as ever with 6-7 teams in with a realistic chance of a top 4 finish next season.
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- Who would WANT to work with the Glazers, a group that continues to have a questionable and relatively unknown passion of interest in the Premier League and also who looks set to give their new managers around 10 months to acquire trophies?
Ferguson hasn't publicly criticised the Glazers ownership as far as I'm aware. Ultimately it was the row over the Rock of Gibraltar which led to the Glazers (aka the Greediers) take over.
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All them years of man utd saying " we don't sack our managers " yeah that's easy to say when you were successful but the minute sh*t didn't go there way bang they sack him, they called every other club down the years when they sacked their managers and they thought they were better than any other club, this just shows they no better than anyone.
Man utd 'fans' and I use the word fans very VERY lightly think they have a god given right to be at the top hahaha get used to it boys no CL for years in my books the competition is much stronger now with the likes of Liverpool etc and IMHO ferguson knew this and left to preserve his status.
A bit bitter towards Utd's past success?
No not at all I've grown up with man utd winning major cups etc it's just the normal to me, I just don't like the club in general tbh and I'd be surprised if people didn't agree with what I said.
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Care to explain your dislike?
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Been telling my mate the same thing mentioned earlier for years. United have been lucky for the last 3 seasons and they've now been found out. They've had a piss poor team and the only thing getting them to the top was a manager fully equipt to ensure results went in Manure favour.
Oh how I love this situation Manure are in.
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Been telling my mate the same thing mentioned earlier for years. United have been lucky for the last 3 seasons and they've now been found out. They've had a piss poor team and the only thing getting them to the top was a manager fully equipt to ensure results went in Manure favour.
Oh how I love this situation Manure are in.
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Been telling my mate the same thing mentioned earlier for years. United have been lucky for the last 3 seasons and they've now been found out. They've had a piss poor team and the only thing getting them to the top was a manager fully equipt to ensure results went in Manure favour.
Oh how I love this situation Manure are in.
What a load of b*llocks! Hahaha
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Been telling my mate the same thing mentioned earlier for years. United have been lucky for the last 3 seasons and they've now been found out. They've had a piss poor team and the only thing getting them to the top was a manager fully equipt to ensure results went in Manure favour.
Oh how I love this situation Manure are in.
What a load of b*llocks! Hahaha
U think??
Man Utd squad has been stale for 2-3 years. Only new decent player they got in was RVP
Buttner? Average
Cleverley? Piss poor
Smalling? Average
Phil Jones? Pulls funny faces and is average
De Gea? Looks like he will snap in half when someone challenges him for the ball
Man management was the key under fergie for the past few seasons.
AVB did crap at chelsea, whereas Di Matteo came in with the same squad and did better. Same with benitez
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- Who would WANT to work with the Glazers, a group that continues to have a questionable and relatively unknown passion of interest in the Premier League and also who looks set to give their new managers around 10 months to acquire trophies?
Ferguson hasn't publicly criticised the Glazers ownership as far as I'm aware. Ultimately it was the row over the Rock of Gibraltar which led to the Glazers (aka the Greediers) take over.
He still has a role at the club don't forget, and is likely to have one until health or interest prevents that.
If you asked him on his death bed, he might give you a different opinion (like many of the hardcore and true United fans have).
The issue of debt is always going to be a problem for their long term aims, whatever those are. It'll bite one day.
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Care to explain your dislike?
Il start with all the glory supporters that follow man utd that come from all over apart from Manchester itself (in general) I ask people I know why they support man utd and I get "I've always supported man utd" LOL yeah because they were winning everything when you were a kid, it's that simple it really is other wise why isn't there loads of say west ham, Fulham, Bolton fans all over the place? Oh that's right they are sh*t well I should say not winning major cups but you get what I mean.
I'm from the north east and as you probs know Newcastle and Sunderland is our big derby it's probs bigger than outsiders even know but whenever either club plays man utd you get a little feeling as if it's a little derby so to speak with all the man utd fans up here. If a man from mars landed up here he'd think that Manchester was within walking distance. That will no doubt be the same were ever your from.
That's just one reason.^
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Been telling my mate the same thing mentioned earlier for years. United have been lucky for the last 3 seasons and they've now been found out. They've had a piss poor team and the only thing getting them to the top was a manager fully equipt to ensure results went in Manure favour.
Oh how I love this situation Manure are in.
What a load of b*llocks! Hahaha
U think??
Man Utd squad has been stale for 2-3 years. Only new decent player they got in was RVP
Buttner? Average
Cleverley? Piss poor
Smalling? Average
Phil Jones? Pulls funny faces and is average
De Gea? Looks like he will snap in half when someone challenges him for the ball
Man management was the key under fergie for the past few seasons.
AVB did crap at chelsea, whereas Di Matteo came in with the same squad and did better. Same with benitez
But despite this average ability they still won the league last season and handed it to City the year before. It's fair to say 1 or 2 of those players mentioned above have been poor.
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Been telling my mate the same thing mentioned earlier for years. United have been lucky for the last 3 seasons and they've now been found out. They've had a piss poor team and the only thing getting them to the top was a manager fully equipt to ensure results went in Manure favour.
Oh how I love this situation Manure are in.
What a load of b*llocks! Hahaha
U think??
Man Utd squad has been stale for 2-3 years. Only new decent player they got in was RVP
Buttner? Average
Cleverley? Piss poor
Smalling? Average
Phil Jones? Pulls funny faces and is average
De Gea? Looks like he will snap in half when someone challenges him for the ball
Man management was the key under fergie for the past few seasons.
AVB did crap at chelsea, whereas Di Matteo came in with the same squad and did better. Same with benitez
But despite this average ability they still won the league last season and handed it to City the year before. It's fair to say 1 or 2 of those players mentioned above have been poor.
That's why I said the man management has been important
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Care to explain your dislike?
Il start with all the glory supporters that follow man utd that come from all over apart from Manchester itself (in general) I ask people I know why they support man utd and I get "I've always supported man utd" LOL yeah because they were winning everything when you were a kid, it's that simple it really is other wise why isn't there loads of say west ham, Fulham, Bolton fans all over the place? Oh that's right they are sh*t well I should say not winning major cups but you get what I mean.
I'm from the north east and as you probs know Newcastle and Sunderland is our big derby it's probs bigger than outsiders even know but whenever either club plays man utd you get a little feeling as if it's a little derby so to speak with all the man utd fans up here. If a man from mars landed up here he'd think that Manchester was within walking distance. That will no doubt be the same were ever your from.
That's just one reason.^
There are loads of Spurs/Arsenal and Liverpool supporters that don't seem to have any affiliation with the clubs locality, did they choose to support such teams because it was socially acceptable to support a mediocre/semi-decent team in the 90's?
Could one argue that some City and Chelsea fans had renewed interest in their teams after recent success?
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Care to explain your dislike?
Il start with all the glory supporters that follow man utd that come from all over apart from Manchester itself (in general) I ask people I know why they support man utd and I get "I've always supported man utd" LOL yeah because they were winning everything when you were a kid, it's that simple it really is other wise why isn't there loads of say west ham, Fulham, Bolton fans all over the place? Oh that's right they are sh*t well I should say not winning major cups but you get what I mean.
I'm from the north east and as you probs know Newcastle and Sunderland is our big derby it's probs bigger than outsiders even know but whenever either club plays man utd you get a little feeling as if it's a little derby so to speak with all the man utd fans up here. If a man from mars landed up here he'd think that Manchester was within walking distance. That will no doubt be the same were ever your from.
That's just one reason.^
There are loads of Spurs/Arsenal and Liverpool supporters that don't seem to have any affiliation with the clubs locality, did they choose to support such teams because it was socially acceptable to support a mediocre/semi-decent team in the 90's?
Could one argue that some City and Chelsea fans had renewed interest in their teams after recent success?
Man Utd are well known for having glory supporters though
I dont know anyone personally who is a chelsea/man city fan, but I know 6 people who are Man Utd fans
They werent born there
They havent lived there
Their parents werent born there
but they've "always supported them"
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Well its for that reason why utd are and have been so successful. The club has been run like a business. The club has been marketed correctly. Like the tours of the Far east, USA and south Africa for example. Do you think we went there cos sir Alex liked the look of a brochure? It was all a ploy to tap into 3 huge continents of people. Just like city and chelsea have finally picked up on recently. More fans equals more money. And all the haters can hate but at the end of the day we bought 30million pound players with money that we made through global marketing etc. Where would city be without the oil fella? And where would chelsea be without theirs? Relegation? N the later would be mid table.
I appreciate we do have glory hunters but so do chelsea. Youd have had more chance of seeing a pig fly than seeing a chelsea shirt round my end but now every man and his dog has one cos of Abramovich rocking up.
And whee i am from is 4miles outside manchester. The only fan in manchester it seems! :signLOL:
My reasoning for supporting them is watching Peter Schmeichel in the 92 euros. My 1st experience that i can remember of watching football. I was 7! My idol for many years. And i have a season ticket that my little brother is keeping warm for me.
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Only GOD himself knows how Manure won the title last season - or should I say only GOD knows why/how RVP stayed fit a whole season to fire them to the title!!
I'm sure all the Gooners on here were wondering WTF is Fergie giving him that Wenger wasn't???
Either way, Fergie got out sharpish - he himself must have been shocked on winning the league with the absolute dross in the team.
I don't care what manager they got in, they would have failed just as badly as Moyes - end of!!
Let's see how much time the new manager gets, cause I don't see big name signings without CL football.
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11 points and 26 RVP goals.... Thats some luck! Zzzzzzzz
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Yes I know of all the other glory fans but I don't know of any it's all just man utd I bet most haven't even been in Manchester but they've always supported them ha.
Another thing that annoys me is when people say fergie was at man utd for 26 years, make that 29 years including 'fergie time' if they were losing there would be silly amounts of injury time for man utd but if it was a 'lesser' club they'd be lucky to get a min.
I remember when Joey Barton either had a arsenal player by the throat or made a awful tackle (can't remember) here's fergie banging on about how we should sack him blah blah but remember when Roy kean ended that young lads career and all the other things him and a few others did fergie wasn't saying a word like that about his own players.
It's all things like this why I don't like man utd there is many more. Don't get me wrong fergie is a legend of a manger.
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Thats what tbe trafford centre was built for obviously! If you dont quite make it to old trafford then thats the next best thing :signLOL:I do agree with it though to be fair but like i said withe chelsea shirts. Id never seen one before abramovich now theres grown men walking round in em. Cranks!
Hahaha that ones ollllld. Theres no such thingggg! Media propaganda! Haha
Oooooo another common myth! It was alfie haarland you was thinking of. Haarland had a persistent knee problem through out that season. Yesss Keane was a c*ck and gis tackle was horrendous but haarland played 5 more times that season. At the end of it he had a knee op which was already a sure thing and it never fully recovered so he retired. Google it! Someone pleae correct me if im wrong... Im not though ;)
Fergie was defending his captain. Like Wenger's infamous 'i didnt see it' every time viera had knocked lumps out someone, and Mourinho's eye poke was a cracker.l
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This topic has been fun so far :laugh:
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Yes I know of all the other glory fans but I don't know of any it's all just man utd I bet most haven't even been in Manchester but they've always supported them ha.
Another thing that annoys me is when people say fergie was at man utd for 26 years, make that 29 years including 'fergie time' if they were losing there would be silly amounts of injury time for man utd but if it was a 'lesser' club they'd be lucky to get a min.
I remember when Joey Barton either had a arsenal player by the throat or made a awful tackle (can't remember) here's fergie banging on about how we should sack him blah blah but remember when Roy kean ended that young lads career and all the other things him and a few others did fergie wasn't saying a word like that about his own players.
It's all things like this why I don't like man utd there is many more. Don't get me wrong fergie is a legend of a manger.
The Fergie time that was found on average to 'benefit' all of the top teams according to Opta?
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Fergie was defending his captain. Like Wenger's infamous 'i didnt see it' every time viera had knocked lumps out someone, and Mourinho's eye poke was a cracker.l
Good point. Wenger used that for a long time, dodging questions on controversial incidents.
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Thats what tbe trafford centre was built for obviously! If you dont quite make it to old trafford then thats the next best thing :signLOL:I do agree with it though to be fair but like i said withe chelsea shirts. Id never seen one before abramovich now theres grown men walking round in em. Cranks!
Hahaha that ones ollllld. Theres no such thingggg! Media propaganda! Haha
Oooooo another common myth! It was alfie haarland you was thinking of. Haarland had a persistent knee problem through out that season. Yesss Keane was a c*ck and gis tackle was horrendous but haarland played 5 more times that season. At the end of it he had a knee op which was already a sure thing and it never fully recovered so he retired. Google it! Someone pleae correct me if im wrong... Im not though ;)
Fergie was defending his captain. Like Wenger's infamous 'i didnt see it' every time viera had knocked lumps out someone, and Mourinho's eye poke was a cracker.l
I just remember he played for city, even if that lad played again Roy kean was still a hot headed twat that did disgusting tackle after tackle without fergie saying a thing but when Barton does something not even half as bad he's quick to sprout crap or if one of his own gets hurt it's a different kettle of fish to when his own players dish it out. Yeah he was defending his captain but don't talk about other clubs matters then when your own do the same say nothing and think it fine.
Yes I know of all the other glory fans but I don't know of any it's all just man utd I bet most haven't even been in Manchester but they've always supported them ha.
Another thing that annoys me is when people say fergie was at man utd for 26 years, make that 29 years including 'fergie time' if they were losing there would be silly amounts of injury time for man utd but if it was a 'lesser' club they'd be lucky to get a min.
I remember when Joey Barton either had a arsenal player by the throat or made a awful tackle (can't remember) here's fergie banging on about how we should sack him blah blah but remember when Roy kean ended that young lads career and all the other things him and a few others did fergie wasn't saying a word like that about his own players.
It's all things like this why I don't like man utd there is many more. Don't get me wrong fergie is a legend of a manger.
The Fergie time that was found on average to 'benefit' all of the top teams according to Opta?
I find that hard to believe but all these so called 'top' teams get different treatment to the rest it's a joke and the FA is a even bigger joke!
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Thats what tbe trafford centre was built for obviously! If you dont quite make it to old trafford then thats the next best thing :signLOL:I do agree with it though to be fair but like i said withe chelsea shirts. Id never seen one before abramovich now theres grown men walking round in em. Cranks!
Hahaha that ones ollllld. Theres no such thingggg! Media propaganda! Haha
Oooooo another common myth! It was alfie haarland you was thinking of. Haarland had a persistent knee problem through out that season. Yesss Keane was a c*ck and gis tackle was horrendous but haarland played 5 more times that season. At the end of it he had a knee op which was already a sure thing and it never fully recovered so he retired. Google it! Someone pleae correct me if im wrong... Im not though ;)
Fergie was defending his captain. Like Wenger's infamous 'i didnt see it' every time viera had knocked lumps out someone, and Mourinho's eye poke was a cracker.l
Another thing on this kean admitted to setting out that day to injure that lad after he injured kean the year before. Should of been arrested for assault. Keans a coward I remember when he was trying to get shearer and shearers just stood there smiling to the little phrat ha love it. Keano he wanks his dog keano haha
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Thats what tbe trafford centre was built for obviously! If you dont quite make it to old trafford then thats the next best thing :signLOL:I do agree with it though to be fair but like i said withe chelsea shirts. Id never seen one before abramovich now theres grown men walking round in em. Cranks!
Hahaha that ones ollllld. Theres no such thingggg! Media propaganda! Haha
Oooooo another common myth! It was alfie haarland you was thinking of. Haarland had a persistent knee problem through out that season. Yesss Keane was a c*ck and gis tackle was horrendous but haarland played 5 more times that season. At the end of it he had a knee op which was already a sure thing and it never fully recovered so he retired. Google it! Someone pleae correct me if im wrong... Im not though ;)
Fergie was defending his captain. Like Wenger's infamous 'i didnt see it' every time viera had knocked lumps out someone, and Mourinho's eye poke was a cracker.l
Another thing on this kean admitted to setting out that day to injure that lad after he injured kean the year before. Should of been arrested for assault. Keans a coward I remember when he was trying to get shearer and shearers just stood there smiling to the little phrat ha love it. Keano he wanks his dog keano haha
sh*t head shearer was absolutely bricking it tho
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Eeeeee i do miss tho good ol' days! Now its fulla over paid tarts. Roy Keane, Patrick Viera, although a shocking player... Vinny Jones. A good old fashion 'Enforcer'. Closest you get to seeing a rough game is an out of control greasy lock from some 200k a week fanny! Haha :signLOL:
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Eeeeee i do miss tho good ol' days! Now its fulla over paid tarts. Roy Keane, Patrick Viera, although a shocking player... Vinny Jones. A good old fashion 'Enforcer'. Closest you get to seeing a rough game is an out of control greasy lock from some 200k a week fanny! Haha :signLOL:
:signLOL: .Got to admit kean v viera was one hell of a battle, thinking of that old arsenal team with the likes of ljungberg, Henry, bergkamp, pires etc wow what a team :notworthy:
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Thats what tbe trafford centre was built for obviously! If you dont quite make it to old trafford then thats the next best thing :signLOL:I do agree with it though to be fair but like i said withe chelsea shirts. Id never seen one before abramovich now theres grown men walking round in em. Cranks!
Hahaha that ones ollllld. Theres no such thingggg! Media propaganda! Haha
Oooooo another common myth! It was alfie haarland you was thinking of. Haarland had a persistent knee problem through out that season. Yesss Keane was a c*ck and gis tackle was horrendous but haarland played 5 more times that season. At the end of it he had a knee op which was already a sure thing and it never fully recovered so he retired. Google it! Someone pleae correct me if im wrong... Im not though ;)
Fergie was defending his captain. Like Wenger's infamous 'i didnt see it' every time viera had knocked lumps out someone, and Mourinho's eye poke was a cracker.l
Another thing on this kean admitted to setting out that day to injure that lad after he injured kean the year before. Should of been arrested for assault. Keans a coward I remember when he was trying to get shearer and shearers just stood there smiling to the little phrat ha love it. Keano he wanks his dog keano haha
sh*t head shearer was absolutely bricking it tho
I can't hear you (Sunderland) from down there :booty:
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Eeeeee i do miss tho good ol' days! Now its fulla over paid tarts. Roy Keane, Patrick Viera, although a shocking player... Vinny Jones. A good old fashion 'Enforcer'. Closest you get to seeing a rough game is an out of control greasy lock from some 200k a week fanny! Haha :signLOL:
:signLOL: .Got to admit kean v viera was one hell of a battle, thinking of that old arsenal team with the likes of ljungberg, Henry, bergkamp, pires etc wow what a team :notworthy:
Was indeed! Viera was a far better player but it brought the best out in Keano. Henry and overmars were immense! As for Wenger... Awesome manager! Believes in youth development, coaching skills are 2nd to none and wont buy a 'name' hed rather buy a player. Hope Arsenal do get rid... Id av at utd! :wink:
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Thats what tbe trafford centre was built for obviously! If you dont quite make it to old trafford then thats the next best thing :signLOL:I do agree with it though to be fair but like i said withe chelsea shirts. Id never seen one before abramovich now theres grown men walking round in em. Cranks!
Hahaha that ones ollllld. Theres no such thingggg! Media propaganda! Haha
Oooooo another common myth! It was alfie haarland you was thinking of. Haarland had a persistent knee problem through out that season. Yesss Keane was a c*ck and gis tackle was horrendous but haarland played 5 more times that season. At the end of it he had a knee op which was already a sure thing and it never fully recovered so he retired. Google it! Someone pleae correct me if im wrong... Im not though ;)
Fergie was defending his captain. Like Wenger's infamous 'i didnt see it' every time viera had knocked lumps out someone, and Mourinho's eye poke was a cracker.l
Another thing on this kean admitted to setting out that day to injure that lad after he injured kean the year before. Should of been arrested for assault. Keans a coward I remember when he was trying to get shearer and shearers just stood there smiling to the little phrat ha love it. Keano he wanks his dog keano haha
sh*t head shearer was absolutely bricking it tho
I can't hear you (Sunderland) from down there :booty:
Hahahaha we will see :congrats:
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I find that hard to believe but all these so called 'top' teams get different treatment to the rest it's a joke and the FA is a even bigger joke!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20464371
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Eeeeee i do miss tho good ol' days! Now its fulla over paid tarts. Roy Keane, Patrick Viera, although a shocking player... Vinny Jones. A good old fashion 'Enforcer'. Closest you get to seeing a rough game is an out of control greasy lock from some 200k a week fanny! Haha :signLOL:
:signLOL: .Got to admit kean v viera was one hell of a battle, thinking of that old arsenal team with the likes of ljungberg, Henry, bergkamp, pires etc wow what a team :notworthy:
Yeh that was probably Arsenal's best team of the PL era, they passed and moved so well. I preferred the players during that period than now. Take England for example, maybe it's the manager and players? I still want them to succeed but the last decent England team was Euro 2004 imo.
If you compare the starting lineups and benches to today you look and think how they didn't do better.
Anybody like watching Premiership Years on Sky?
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Guillem Balague thinks Van Gaal will be the best fit for United, that bloke usually talks sense and would agree that him or Klopp would be best for going forward.
That continues to fu** me off a little - the automatic premonition that these top, young, European managers are going to want to leave their high flying domestic leagues for Manchester United in a flash.
I think most managers would jump at the chance to manage UTD, along with being given a transfer fund of 140-200m (depends on which paper you read).
Guardiola, not a chance, all that possesion lead to nowt against Madrid :grin:
Van Gaal (Not that young at 62 lol) and looks like he would jump at the job after finishing with Holland after WC.
Ancelotti, also a good bet for the job if Madrid dont win the league/CL
Simeone, too young and inexperienced yet, a good bet for 10 years time
Klopp, no chance
Love all the united haters (usually Liverpool or City fans), as a united supporter (have been for 36 years!), I saw all my mates support Liverpool at school as they were successfull, whereas I went with the club that was 8 miles away and the club my mum worked for (She was in marketing/Merchandise.
United will be back in a year or two (I said last year it would be 2-3 years ) and the haters can go back to hating a winning club :signLOL:
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Care to explain your dislike?
Il start with all the glory supporters that follow man utd that come from all over apart from Manchester itself (in general) I ask people I know why they support man utd and I get "I've always supported man utd" LOL yeah because they were winning everything when you were a kid, it's that simple it really is other wise why isn't there loads of say west ham, Fulham, Bolton fans all over the place? Oh that's right they are sh*t well I should say not winning major cups but you get what I mean.
I'm from the north east and as you probs know Newcastle and Sunderland is our big derby it's probs bigger than outsiders even know but whenever either club plays man utd you get a little feeling as if it's a little derby so to speak with all the man utd fans up here. If a man from mars landed up here he'd think that Manchester was within walking distance. That will no doubt be the same were ever your from.
That's just one reason.^
There are loads of Spurs/Arsenal and Liverpool supporters that don't seem to have any affiliation with the clubs locality, did they choose to support such teams because it was socially acceptable to support a mediocre/semi-decent team in the 90's?
Could one argue that some City and Chelsea fans had renewed interest in their teams after recent success?
Man Utd are well known for having glory supporters though
I dont know anyone personally who is a chelsea/man city fan, but I know 6 people who are Man Utd fans
They werent born there
They havent lived there
Their parents werent born there
but they've "always supported them"
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Are you forgetting the legions of Irish fans and Norwegian/scandinavian in general fans that come over week after week to watch liverpool who "Were" winning back in't day?
I am from Manchester and support united, where I am from its pretty much half United and Half City, the last place I worked at before moving to conrwall there were 18 lads of which 11 were city supporters, funny how city 's fanbase grew on the eve of them being handed £1 billion by the arabs, up till then we had 4 city fans! :signLOL:
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but remember when Roy kean ended that young lads career and all the other things him and a few others did fergie wasn't saying a word like that about his own players.
Alfie Inge Haaland was not that young lol (he was married and im sure he had kids with him) I think he was 29 at the time of the Keane tackle, I know this as I met him a few times socially (he was an ok chap at it happens).
If your gonna stand there over Keane gloating/giving him abuse when he has screwed his cruciate ligament, Alfie surely knew that Keane would seek him out on the pitch when he was fit again (I know I would have!), he won the ball and managed to smash Alfie in 1 tackle, retribution=sorted, its over, as others have said, all teams had an enforcer to protect the more skillfull/soft lads. Keane/Vieira was something that I personally always looked forward to :happy2:
Unfortunately these days the prem is full of overpaid soft lads who like to throw in a double pike with a twist when they get "Touched" and now that the cameras always focus on the crowd when there is a bit of handbags going on its even worse!
His actions on the pitch with Keane came back to haunt him in the long term
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Care to explain your dislike?
Il start with all the glory supporters that follow man utd that come from all over apart from Manchester itself (in general) I ask people I know why they support man utd and I get "I've always supported man utd" LOL yeah because they were winning everything when you were a kid, it's that simple it really is other wise why isn't there loads of say west ham, Fulham, Bolton fans all over the place? Oh that's right they are sh*t well I should say not winning major cups but you get what I mean.
I'm from the north east and as you probs know Newcastle and Sunderland is our big derby it's probs bigger than outsiders even know but whenever either club plays man utd you get a little feeling as if it's a little derby so to speak with all the man utd fans up here. If a man from mars landed up here he'd think that Manchester was within walking distance. That will no doubt be the same were ever your from.
That's just one reason.^
There are loads of Spurs/Arsenal and Liverpool supporters that don't seem to have any affiliation with the clubs locality, did they choose to support such teams because it was socially acceptable to support a mediocre/semi-decent team in the 90's?
Could one argue that some City and Chelsea fans had renewed interest in their teams after recent success?
Man Utd are well known for having glory supporters though
I dont know anyone personally who is a chelsea/man city fan, but I know 6 people who are Man Utd fans
They werent born there
They havent lived there
Their parents werent born there
but they've "always supported them"
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Are you forgetting the legions of Irish fans and Norwegian/scandinavian in general fans that come over week after week to watch liverpool who "Were" winning back in't day?
I am from Manchester and support united, where I am from its pretty much half United and Half City, the last place I worked at before moving to conrwall there were 18 lads of which 11 were city supporters, funny how city 's fanbase grew on the eve of them being handed £1 billion by the arabs, up till then we had 4 city fans! :signLOL:
It's like that for every club tho :confused:?
Irish people have always supported an English and Scottish team cos their league is piss poor
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Some people make a big deal out of it. There are dozens of teams in the London area to follow and people still choose to support the bigger clubs in the area.
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Some people make a big deal out of it. There are dozens of teams in the London area to follow and people still choose to support the bigger clubs in the area.
Supporting a team comes down to 2 things:-
Family (who they support)
Preference.
END. OF. :signLOL:
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Some people make a big deal out of it. There are dozens of teams in the London area to follow and people still choose to support the bigger clubs in the area.
Supporting a team comes down to 2 things:-
Family (who they support)
Preference.
END. OF. :signLOL:
No it comes down to these 2 things
Where u are from
And then family
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Some people make a big deal out of it. There are dozens of teams in the London area to follow and people still choose to support the bigger clubs in the area.
Supporting a team comes down to 2 things:-
Family (who they support)
Preference.
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No it comes down to these 2 things:-
Where u are from
And then family
Not in our house .
It came down to family...............Mum being from Manchester and worked for United, Dad being from London who supported Arsenal, I chose United even tho at the time most of mates at school supported Liverpool :grin:
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United will be back in a year or two (I said last year it would be 2-3 years ) and the haters can go back to hating a winning club :signLOL:
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Hope that's not at me hahaha couldn't care less if man utd win anything, it's time for you lot to move over now I think you've had your time now :wink:
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Some people make a big deal out of it. There are dozens of teams in the London area to follow and people still choose to support the bigger clubs in the area.
Supporting a team comes down to 2 things:-
Family (who they support)
Preference.
END. OF. :signLOL:
Comes down to where your from and/or who your family come from/support.
I just don't get the preference well I do that's why all glory fans pick man utd because they want to support a winning team. I just couldn't do that I'm proud to wear the colours of MY city.
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United will be back in a year or two (I said last year it would be 2-3 years ) and the haters can go back to hating a winning club :signLOL:
Hope that's not at me hahaha couldn't care less if man utd win anything, it's time for you lot to move over now I think you've had your time now :wink:
Anyone reading this thread would be forgiven for thinking otherwise :laugh:.
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United will be back in a year or two (I said last year it would be 2-3 years ) and the haters can go back to hating a winning club :signLOL:
Hope that's not at me hahaha couldn't care less if man utd win anything, it's time for you lot to move over now I think you've had your time now :wink:
Anyone reading this thread would be forgiven for thinking otherwise :laugh:.
Ha I guess so :happy2: I know and that's all that matters
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Tbh I agree, it probably wont be the same. The rise of Chelsea/City and a resurgent Liverpool has made it more unpredictable.
Next season any of these teams look like they could occupy the top four:
Man Utd
Liverpool
Man City
Arsenal
Everton
Spurs
Chelsea
In the past you always had a similar number of teams suggesting a title challenge but you new that some would fall away by Xmas and it would be United or Arsenal/Chelsea.
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Get innnnn! The 1st time in my life that I've ever backed Chelsea! :pomppomp:
Congratulations to Sunderland too. Out of relegation zone and hopefully to safety. I like Gus Poyet.
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fair play to chelsea, if they had won 1-0 and a penalty been given against Flanagan would not be hard to take but it was just the manner of the goals which was tough to swallow.
Willian goal - was the ball not played forward by Torres ie would have been offside but was not offside because there were no defenders at all in front of them? :confused:
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Some people make a big deal out of it. There are dozens of teams in the London area to follow and people still choose to support the bigger clubs in the area.
Supporting a team comes down to 2 things:-
Family (who they support)
Preference.
END. OF. :signLOL:
RIP supporting your local football club then, if that's the logic of your average Premier League club 'fans' (a shady phrase, at best) in the Sky era :sad1: :sick: :confused:
I genuinely think that's terrible for the structure of the game and I'm sure a lot of Prem club fans on this forums' local sides are much more successful and bigger than my club too, if not playing at a much higher level of football.
And before anyone asks - yes I do. My season ticket costs me under £100 a season and I can stand inches from the players with a pint in my hand enjoying the game :P :evilgrin: :grin:
(Not criticising anyone for supporting the club they do and for not supporting certain clubs, just doing my bit for the lowly non league slash local club football :wink:)
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I could support Oldham. My local, local team but id rather bludgeon myself to death with something blunt. The tickets prices are far behind utd's, the shirts cost as much, the stadium only has 3 sides and is made out of paper mache and old war time battles ships n the team's sh*te to an epic scale. :signLOL:
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I could support Oldham. My local, local team but id rather bludgeon myself to death with something blunt. The tickets prices are far behind utd's, the shirts cost as much, the stadium only has 3 sides and is made out of paper mache and old war time battles ships n the team's sh*te to an epic scale. :signLOL:
Quite a few of mates support Oldham (being from Saddleworth), and agreed they are pants!
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I could support Oldham. My local, local team but id rather bludgeon myself to death with something blunt. The tickets prices are far behind utd's, the shirts cost as much, the stadium only has 3 sides and is made out of paper mache and old war time battles ships n the team's sh*te to an epic scale. :signLOL:
Quite a few of mates support Oldham (being from Saddleworth), and agreed they are pants!
LOL that's not what it's about is it! :booty:
I'd rather support Oldham (if I lived there) than United, City, Liverpool, Bolton, Everton, Blackpool... whoever.
I just don't get the 'pick a top 6 side that's won something recently' or 'pick the club your uncle or dad supports' when they don't support that club at home or away games, as much as they can (again, not saying you two have). I know the cost is extortionate at the top flight, fully appreciate that - especially for a family.
...But that's an even bigger reason to support your local club regardless of their size :P
I've been to Old Trafford & the Emirates for a couple of Prem and CL games this season and for me even if I supported either or lived in Mancs/LDN, I'd feel totally detached from the whole experience other than being there for the 'big' match.
The home chants and support is sh*t compared to most non league games I've been at, too :evilgrin:
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I could support Oldham. My local, local team but id rather bludgeon myself to death with something blunt. The tickets prices are far behind utd's, the shirts cost as much, the stadium only has 3 sides and is made out of paper mache and old war time battles ships n the team's sh*te to an epic scale. :signLOL:
Quite a few of mates support Oldham (being from Saddleworth), and agreed they are pants!
LOL that's not what it's about is it! :booty:
I'd rather support Oldham (if I lived there) than United, City, Liverpool, Bolton, Everton, Blackpool... whoever.
I just don't get the 'pick a top 6 side that's won something recently' or 'pick the club your uncle or dad supports' when they don't support that club at home or away games, as much as they can (again, not saying you two have). I know the cost is extortionate at the top flight, fully appreciate that - especially for a family.
...But that's an even bigger reason to support your local club regardless of their size :P
I've been to Old Trafford & the Emirates for a couple of Prem and CL games this season and for me even if I supported either or lived in Mancs/LDN, I'd feel totally detached from the whole experience other than being there for the 'big' match.
The home chants and support is sh*t compared to most non league games I've been at, too :evilgrin:
I agree most of the so called top clubs have sh*t support, it's all quiet until they score then they have a little pipe up then all goes dead again zzzzzzzz.
Get yourself in the away end with the goerdies :wink: that's what you call support still out singing the home support even when we getting smashed 3,4,5 - 0 I'm sure someone will disagree tho :rolleye:
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Like i said before. The ticket prices to watch league 1 football at oldham isnt that much less then watching utd.. Honest! And £50 for the shirt is scandolous! If i supported my uncles team id be a liverpool fan :sick:
As for the chants of the chaddy end.... Are you ready for this? T...I..T...S! What do you do wi em?
Old'em! :signLOL:
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I agree most of the so called top clubs have sh*t support, it's all quiet until they score then they have a little pipe up then all goes dead again zzzzzzzz.
Get yourself in the away end with the goerdies :wink: that's what you call support still out singing the home support even when we getting smashed 3,4,5 - 0 I'm sure someone will disagree tho :rolleye:
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Absolutely the case.
Haha, never been to SJP or in the away end with the Toon so I can only agree for now :rolleye:
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It gets pretty noisy in the stretford end (it used to anyway, stopped going 2 years ago when I moved down south!)