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Title: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Top Cat on October 16, 2009, 03:55:48 pm
I am picking up my new brakes tomorrow,  but have a stumbling block to overcome with fitment.
To get the brakes clear of my wheels i need a 5 mil spacer. I have no spare room under my arches for a 10 mil hub centric spacer so i am needing advice on options at 5 mil.
what are your thoughts on running non hub centric are they to risky, is their any engineering solutions to this to get 5 mil hub centric. I know manufacturers would offer them if their wasn't some sort of problem in this area.
Does anyone no someone who has overcome a similar problem.  :sad1:
 
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: joesgti on October 16, 2009, 03:58:54 pm
love the sig TC, cant believe ive only just noticed!  :laugh:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: joesgti on October 16, 2009, 03:59:14 pm
oh and i have no idea  :rolleye:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: tony_danza on October 16, 2009, 03:59:21 pm
I've got some 5mm in the garage that have a 57.1 centre bore with the OEM taper to meet the hub perfectly. Not hubcentric, but about the best you'd get otherwise.

You're welcome to borrow them and try them.
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Top Cat on October 16, 2009, 04:02:25 pm
I've got some 5mm in the garage that have a 57.1 centre bore with the OEM taper to meet the hub perfectly. Not hubcentric, but about the best you'd get otherwise.

You're welcome to borrow them and try them.

Did you have them made Mike, and do you think they would be safe enough for track days. Once the pads are worn down some i could probably run without them on track.  :happy2:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: tony_danza on October 16, 2009, 04:25:28 pm
No, just bought some centre bore specific ones rather than the universal type which can shift between the hub and wheel.

The main thing is ensuring the weight of the wheel is carried by the hub, and not the bolts. A 5mm spacer should* leave you plenty of hub to get the wheel onto.

I bought them to clear the ill fated APs with my Monzas/old track wheels, so I'd intended to use them on track.

*Assuming your new discs are no thicker than usual.
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Greeners on October 16, 2009, 04:28:17 pm
Have you spoken to Ben (Wheelman) TC?
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Top Cat on October 16, 2009, 04:43:16 pm
No, just bought some centre bore specific ones rather than the universal type which can shift between the hub and wheel.

The main thing is ensuring the weight of the wheel is carried by the hub, and not the bolts. A 5mm spacer should* leave you plenty of hub to get the wheel onto.

I bought them to clear the ill fated APs with my Monzas/old track wheels, so I'd intended to use them on track.

*Assuming your new discs are no thicker than usual.

New disks are 32 mil i believe so a bit thicker. If its ok with you Mike may i borrow them when fitting time comes around and if Dave and Votex think they will be adequate safety wise when fitting time arrives i will purchase some.  :happy2:


I was hoping he would see the thread Nath but i will PM him if not.  :happy2:
Have you spoken to Ben (Wheelman) TC?
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: tony_danza on October 16, 2009, 04:46:22 pm
Have them as long as you want mate, they've been sat in the garage for the best part of a year - so I'm not using them.
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Top Cat on October 16, 2009, 04:53:11 pm
Have them as long as you want mate, they've been sat in the garage for the best part of a year - so I'm not using them.

Cheers bud.  :drinking:

Anybody else got any engineering solutions to throw into the mix.  :happy2:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: The wheel man on October 16, 2009, 07:43:21 pm
dont have that much experience with shims tbh.... i know i have them in stock 3,5 8mm but how they affect the locating of the wheel im not sure.  If the wheel was located by the spigot and all is well then i cant see the difference a shim would make (if it moved) other than making sure you have enough thread on your bolts you should be a OK  :happy2:  but what do i know, im half pi**ed  :drinking: :rolleye: :stupid:

Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: candy turbo on October 16, 2009, 08:36:27 pm
if you go for 5 mm ones it leaves about 5 mm of hub left ,  a firm on ebay will make you a tapered spigot ring so the wheel will still locate on to said ring and hub , its not brilliant but it does work  :happy2: 
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Top Cat on October 16, 2009, 08:43:55 pm
if you go for 5 mm ones it leaves about 5 mm of hub left ,  a firm on ebay will make you a tapered spigot ring so the wheel will still locate on to said ring and hub , its not brilliant but it does work  :happy2: 

Cheers for that Candy do you know the name of the company, its got to be worth investigating.  :smiley:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Andy on October 16, 2009, 08:49:50 pm
just leave the wheels of  Tc and give them to me :signLOL:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: candy turbo on October 16, 2009, 09:23:30 pm
if you go for 5 mm ones it leaves about 5 mm of hub left ,  a firm on ebay will make you a tapered spigot ring so the wheel will still locate on to said ring and hub , its not brilliant but it does work  :happy2: 

Cheers for that Candy do you know the name of the company, its got to be worth investigating.  :smiley:
spigot rings uk , they are in bradford  01274 524666   , you need 57.1 dia 5 mm wide  with 45 deg taper :happy2:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Top Cat on October 16, 2009, 09:25:41 pm
if you go for 5 mm ones it leaves about 5 mm of hub left ,  a firm on ebay will make you a tapered spigot ring so the wheel will still locate on to said ring and hub , its not brilliant but it does work  :happy2: 

Cheers for that Candy do you know the name of the company, its got to be worth investigating.  :smiley:
spigot rings uk , they are in bradford  01274 524666   , you need 57.1 dia 5 mm wide  with 45 deg taper :happy2:

Cheers bud. i am guessing then these are what MR Danza is kindly lending me.  :happy2:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: candy turbo on October 16, 2009, 09:29:06 pm
no , they are the spacers with the taper to fit the hub (make sure you fit them the right way round ) these rings fit on after the spacer to match the profile of the back of the wheel !   if that makes scence ??? :confused:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: Top Cat on October 16, 2009, 09:42:53 pm
Ah i think i know what you mean now my TD's have a plastic spigot ring with them, so your saying the spacer would not be VAG group specific like the TD's wheels are not and fitting this would give a better contact area between the wheel and the spacer.  :rolleye:
Title: Re: I need you help guys with spacers
Post by: candy turbo on October 18, 2009, 05:21:15 pm
not really , i would recommend eibach spacers which are drilled for vag ( about £35 ) then fit the spigot rings dont forget you ll need longer bolts too  :happy2: